Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

[Controversial]

He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

He agreed to Fury’s demand of no rematch clause. FW said yesterday he talked Fury into having it in the contract but they couldn’t agree on the split. Fighting Gassiev is a bit different to fighting for the undisputed HW title. I’m not sure if Usyk is now demanding a rematch but if it’s on the table then surely if he wins the first fight he deserves more than an even split of the purse, wouldn't you want more if you were him after only getting 30% first time around?

[BigDoofus]

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

He agreed to Fury’s demand of no rematch clause. FW said yesterday he talked Fury into having it in the contract but they couldn’t agree on the split. Fighting Gassiev is a bit different to fighting for the undisputed HW title. I’m not sure if Usyk is now demanding a rematch but if it’s on the table then surely if he wins the first fight he deserves more than an even split of the purse, wouldn't you want more if you were him after only getting 30% first time around?

If neither fighter wants a rematch take it off the table. Usyk had already quit his camp before that meeting anyway.

[BigDoofus]

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

The Gassiev fight was the final of the WBSS so he would have signed up to the tournament and not negotiated separate commercial deals for each fight hence why there weren’t any immediate rematches from it.

[Teddy's Toupee]

Fury's career is seemingly more about pullouts and postponements / never on than actually fighting.

David Price
David Haye (granted not his fault at all).
Wlad Klischko 2.
Anthony Joshua (first "agreed" after Wilder 2).
Anthony Joshua (post Dillian Whyte fight).
Usyk.

Pretty certain there have been other delays also (wasn't Wilder 2 supposed to happen earlier). And these are fights in which there was serious negotiations - let alone the others that were just bullshit (e.g. the big Wilder call out after he beat Klitschko).

You forgot Ustinov, another time when Fury shat his panties.

[Controversial]

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

He agreed to Fury’s demand of no rematch clause. FW said yesterday he talked Fury into having it in the contract but they couldn’t agree on the split. Fighting Gassiev is a bit different to fighting for the undisputed HW title. I’m not sure if Usyk is now demanding a rematch but if it’s on the table then surely if he wins the first fight he deserves more than an even split of the purse, wouldn't you want more if you were him after only getting 30% first time around?

If neither fighter wants a rematch take it off the table. Usyk had already quit his camp before that meeting anyway.

I don’t believe Fury or anyone involved wouldn’t want the rematch. I don’t believe half the stuff that gets said publicly, they are both training hard I’m sure and all this stuff is mind games to try and distract each other. But if a rematch is made then the winner deserves more than 50%

[The Gratest]

This blatant duck and subsequent fall from grace of the sports most fightingest fighty fighter man is obviously difficult for the Fury fans to take. So here are some uplifting quotes from the man himself to help lift those in need.
I've picked out my 3 favourites.

https://graciousquotes.com/tyson-fury/

"I’m a fighting man, a fighting man with generations of fighting men before me in my family. That’s all we do: we fight."

“It’s not about how much money I’m getting paid. It’s just a love of one-on-one combat. I feel I’m at home. I love the ring entrances, the talking. I’m the master of it all.”

"I prefer to fight a bigger guy. I don’t like fighting smaller guys; they give me problems with their agility."

[big lennox]

Did anyone see the WBC's comments on the Fury vs Uysk collapse. It's pretty much a thinly veiled dig at Fury, saying ego, and one person's hand getting in the way of the Undisputed fight happening.

Hopefully, they can strip him and the sport can move on. It's not in their interest to have a serial ducker holding their belt. It's a bad look for them.

[Nightmare Roy]

Did anyone see the WBC's comments on the Fury vs Uysk collapse. It's pretty much a thinly veiled dig at Fury, saying ego, and one person's hand getting in the way of the Undisputed fight happening.

Hopefully, they can strip him and the sport can move on. It's not in their interest to have a serial ducker holding their belt. It's a bad look for them.

I'd love it Kevin Keegan style if they did.

[Terminator666]

Pity Usyk can’t fight Wider instead of Dubois

[CaptainSpacerod]

Did anyone see the WBC's comments on the Fury vs Uysk collapse. It's pretty much a thinly veiled dig at Fury, saying ego, and one person's hand getting in the way of the Undisputed fight happening.

Hopefully, they can strip him and the sport can move on. It's not in their interest to have a serial ducker holding their belt. It's a bad look for them.

If they were interested in how they look they wouldn’t have supported serial drug cheat Conor Benn

[Counter-puncher]

Did anyone see the WBC's comments on the Fury vs Uysk collapse. It's pretty much a thinly veiled dig at Fury, saying ego, and one person's hand getting in the way of the Undisputed fight happening.

Hopefully, they can strip him and the sport can move on. It's not in their interest to have a serial ducker holding their belt. It's a bad look for them.

I'd love it Kevin Keegan style if they did.

[BigDoofus]

Fury's trainer confirming that he was only in the UK for Lawrence's fight and hasn't been training Fury at all; and already had a plane ticket booked to head home on the 28th March:

You’re not going to link the video off YouTube with Hill watching over Fury and Okolie training together?

[big lennox]

Fury's trainer confirming that he was only in the UK for Lawrence's fight and hasn't been training Fury at all; and already had a plane ticket booked to head home on the 28th March:

You’re not going to link the video off YouTube with Hill watching over Fury and Okolie training together?

No, I'm going for the latest video from the head coach where he says he has been using Fury's gym but is here purely for his other fighter's fight on Saturday and already had a ticket booked back to the States for the 28th March. Also of note in that interview was that he said he and Fury hasn't even discussed Uysk.

Anyway, the knitting group seems to have grown into millions in the last day or so. Quite interesting.

[emallini]

[ashall2]

Awaiting the inevitable Fury Twitter/Instagram rant
Pretty sure most on here can quote it word for word
Before it even comes out

‘Gappy teeth doesn’t wanna fight the big Gypsy King because he knows he’ll get smashed to pieces, the big shithouse dosser, the little sausage’

Close enough.

[si7dog7]

Awaiting the inevitable Fury Twitter/Instagram rant
Pretty sure most on here can quote it word for word
Before it even comes out

‘Gappy teeth doesn’t wanna fight the big Gypsy King because he knows he’ll get smashed to pieces, the big shithouse dosser, the little sausage’

Close enough.

And there we have it

[big lennox]

Fury comes over well in that video. Not at all obnoxious or like he is trying to create a smokescreen....

Tremendous advocate for mental health.

[ashall2]

Fury comes over well in that video. Not at all obnoxious or like he is trying to create a smokescreen....

Tremendous advocate for mental health.

The more he insults and swears the less believable it sounds

[The Gratest]

He'll definitely win all his fans back with that.

[quickeyg]

Daily Mirror CONFIRMED Usyk DUCKED Tyson Fury



And once again Fury verbally destroys the gap man (Hit em up) style.


I'm going to enjoy next week what with everything going on. JW4 here we come.

[The Gratest]

Dribble

[polecateddy]

Trying to think who he’d actually be willing to fight. Someone old, beatable and used to losing I’d guess.

[Controversial]

Fury has already laughed at Usyks team for accepting 30%, he knows full well he’s taking the piss with that offer and I doubt he was expecting them to accept it. He’s taking the piss again with expecting a 50/50 split if he loses so has some cheek to put the blame on Usyk

[Spud]

Fury is showing his true colours.

His behaviour is a disgrace.

[handsofstone]

Awaiting the inevitable Fury Twitter/Instagram rant
Pretty sure most on here can quote it word for word
Before it even comes out

‘Gappy teeth doesn’t wanna fight the big Gypsy King because he knows he’ll get smashed to pieces, the big shithouse dosser, the little sausage’

Close enough.

Yep