The Ultimate Self-Defense Championship

[HomicideHenry]

Six different YouTube martial artists competing against each other in a series different challenges to determine the best of the bunch: Ramsey Dewey, Sensei Seth, Martial Arts Journey, MMA Shredded, Reality Self Defence Check and Hard2Hurt are the competitors.



Bus Fight Competition



Unpredictable Threats Competition



Hide and Go Stab Competition



Zombie Survival Competition



Self Defence Scenario Competition



Knife Attacker Competition



The Finale Competition (Against Each Other)

The winner, in the end, was ironically one of the smaller competitors Jeff Chann (MMA Shredded)

[1254950]

Thumbnails look a bit cringy to my taste, but videos itself are great! Thanks

Six different YouTube martial artists competing against each other in a series different challenges to determine the best of the bunch: Ramsey Dewey, Sensei Seth, Martial Arts Journey, MMA Shredded, Reality Self Defence Check and Hard2Hurt are the competitors.



Bus Fight Competition




Knife Attacker Competition


The winner, in the end, was ironically one of the smaller competitors Jeff Chann (MMA Shredded)

Sadly I feel like here(Tx) hand-to hand and knife fighting is like last resort(hell, even I'm carrying+practicing at the range Reminds me I gotta go pick up my order of new range gear from https://gritrsports.com/gear/tactical-d ... ange-gear/ )

In retrospect, pilot and knife attacker one were the best(after rewatching whole thing second time)

[Redback Rasta]

The 'bus bash' bought back memories of travelling on public transport when I was at school. There were more intense fights than that on the train and of course nobody was wearing protective equipment.

[HomicideHenry]

Thumbnails look a bit cringy to my taste, but videos itself are great! Thanks

I love the concept, lol.

The aikido guy ironically ended up 3rd place overall and most people thought he'd not make it far in the competition. Although he'll admit if he didn't have experience in other disciplines he wouldn't have been able to pull off different aikido tactics.

The 'bus bash' bought back memories of travelling on public transport when I was at school. There were more intense fights than that on the train and of course nobody was wearing protective equipment.

Oddly enough I venture to say there are tough street fighters who could beat trained martial artists and boxers because they know how to fight in confined places or use their environment to their advantage.

I'm reminded of the actor Robert Mitchum who was said to be the toughest guy in Hollywood. Sure he had some boxing experience but nothing world class by any means. He famously beat the crap out of a guy who was a top ranked contender at one time who fought Joe Louis at some hotel bar.

How? He used the environment to his advantage. He grabbed the boxer and slammed his head into a table and proceeded to punch and kick the guy into unconsciousness.

[Redback Rasta]

Definitely some of the key attributes of good street fighters is their readiness and willingness, and their use of the environment that surrounds them.

[Steveh583]

Even these scenarios are unrealistic for the majority cos they know what’s gonna happen before the event.

Lee Morrisons urban combatives is where it’s at if you are after realism. Check out his instructors stress test… (I’ve done loads of his workshops and had privates with him…. And you’ll learn more in one of his classes than in 20 of most others)

[Redback Rasta]

There are very few trainers around who offer training that realistic and it is both extremely challenging and fun to do, as I'm sure you know. The amount of self belief it builds is pretty awesome too.

[HomicideHenry]

I don't know if there really is a realistic fight program, because in realistic scenarios environment changes all the time. You can be the baddest man on the planet but if you're in a cramped place and suddenly the attackers buddy comes along and kicks you across the face, etc your chances are extremely low that you are getting out of there.

[Redback Rasta]

You can't be prepared for every possible scenario but the more scenarios you are prepared for the less potential uncertainty you might face.

[HomicideHenry]

I figure a realistic scenario would be either inside of the house full of furniture and everything, or out on the street where there's cars and people, etc. I reckon if these guys really wanted to test their mettle they would be forced into an all out no rules fight in such a place.

I always see these martial arts guys going on how their style is made for the streets and yet they fight in rings or cages, etc. So I do like the concept that was being done here but because of them wearing protective gear, and only fighting for a few minutes at a time it just doesn't really answer the question.

[Redback Rasta]

Street is also interesting from point of view of what you are wearing at the time. Unless you wear training clothes around all day every day, you could be wearing quite restrictive clothing when things kick off and that can limit your options. For instance, try kicking effectively in tight jeans with a belt.

Also, what they are wearing could provide you with opportunities. You may be able to choke them out easily if they are wearing something that suits that particular approach.

[HomicideHenry]

Street is also interesting from point of view of what you are wearing at the time. Unless you wear training clothes around all day every day, you could be wearing quite restrictive clothing when things kick off and that can limit your options. For instance, try kicking effectively in tight jeans with a belt.

Also, what they are wearing could provide you with opportunities. You may be able to choke them out easily if they are wearing something that suits that particular approach.

That's true too.

This reminds me of a discussion I saw where it was said if runners (for example) today had to wear the leather and wood shoes and run on cinder tracks instead of rubberized tracks that they probably wouldn't be much faster than guys like Jim Thorpe.

What you're wearing and what the other person is wearing is kind of critical. I'm reminded of boxing where the champion usually dictates what gloves are going to be used in the fights. If it was more fair and equal the champion ought to allow the opponent to wear whatever gloves they want.

I'm also reminded of the first few UFC events where Gracie wore the gi and how he used it as a weapon against his opponent. I forget when they stopped allowing that in MMA but a lot of his success can be attributed in part to that uniform.

[Redback Rasta]

I think Royce Gracie wore his gi in the early UFC tournaments for two reasons :

1/ To visually highlight BJJ by wearing the signature BJJ clothing because, after all, the whole reason he was competing was to demonstrate to the world that BJJ was the best martial art in the world.

2/ To use as a weapon where he could grab his gi as an anchor point when applying chokes etc.

[Steveh583]

You can't be prepared for every possible scenario but the more scenarios you are prepared for the less potential uncertainty you might face.

I agree, I’ve trained with all the ‘‘names’ in martial arts and reality based self defence for near 30 years, and it means fornicate all in a real life situation. All you can do is embrace the chaos.

[margaret thatcher]

the best self-defense is not being a tit who gets into life and death street battles in the first place. be respectful, dont hang out with wrong uns or go to seedy places- that should prevent 99 to 100 percent of this sheeyat from happening

even a lot of this 'practical' self defense is an ego thing tbh

[HomicideHenry]

the best self-defense is not being a tit who gets into life and death street battles in the first place. be respectful, dont hang out with wrong uns or go to seedy places- that should prevent 99 to 100 percent of this sheeyat from happening

even a lot of this 'practical' self defense is an ego thing tbh

Of course.

But, there will or might come occasions where you have no alternative but to defend yourself. I don't think the question will ever really be solved as to what is the most practical method because what works for one man, doesn't necessarily work for another, because one man might be more inclined to grapple and another to strike.

So I reckon the answer really is what works best for you. Although I have always been of the mindset to attack a man's strengths because it's the least expected thing somebody can do. If that fails, then attack the man's weaknesses.

[Steveh583]

the best self-defense is not being a tit who gets into life and death street battles in the first place. be respectful, dont hang out with wrong uns or go to seedy places- that should prevent 99 to 100 percent of this sheeyat from happening

even a lot of this 'practical' self defense is an ego thing tbh

100% correct. On both points.

A lot of people who practice practical self defence are people who wanna learn how to fight without the commitment and ego demolishing aspects of learning a combat sport.
They think they can short cut the graft and discomfort.

[Redback Rasta]

In my experience, most people who train seriously, for a prolonged period of time, don't go looking for trouble and do their best to avoid it if it presents itself. The positive is, if that trouble is unavoidable, they are better placed to deal with it than if they didn't train.

Should someone break into my home, I want to be as well placed as I can be able to keep my family and myself safe.

[HomicideHenry]

In my experience, most people who train seriously, for a prolonged period of time, don't go looking for trouble and do their best to avoid it if it presents itself. The positive is, if that trouble is unavoidable, they are better placed to deal with it than if they didn't train.

Should someone break into my home, I want to be as well placed as I can be able to keep my family and myself safe.

Exactly.

Most of the time you go to any of these mma gyms or boxing gyms and if you said your desire to learn was simply to kick people's asses and be a badass, they usually will turn that person away.

Why? Because it's the wrong attitude. Wrong mindset. Etc. Besides that if they did take you up on your offer the first thing they would do is kick your ass to show you that you was nothing to give you an attitude adjustment, or they would exercise you so hard that it might make you not come back.

And as we have said before you can have all the training and the world and still get your ass killed on the street by idiots anyways. Nobody with a right mind really goes out looking for fights to cause trouble. Those that do either are troubled youths or morons who are dangerous.

[1254950]

In my experience, most people who train seriously, for a prolonged period of time, don't go looking for trouble and do their best to avoid it if it presents itself. The positive is, if that trouble is unavoidable, they are better placed to deal with it than if they didn't train.

Should someone break into my home, I want to be as well placed as I can be able to keep my family and myself safe.

If someone's looking to mess with me on the street - Imma trying to avoid this at every cost to be fair. What do I gain from trying to mess with the guy? Absolutely nothing. If I have no other options - yeah, sure.
Yet so many people get into fights over literally nothing it's insane. You'd think that here in TX where every 2nd one has a CCW(even I myself have p365 via recommendation from https://gunicorns.com/) people would use their head more. Alas, not the case at all
It's a classic Dunning-Krueger effect in real world when people who have almost no training feel invinsible for some reason. And the more you know about defense the less you want to get into confrontation.