Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou - October 28, 2023

[jamesmcdonnell]

I can totally see why Ngannou is taking it, UFC fighters don't earn anything like what top flight boxers do, due to the business model of UFC, he will get a career record payday, and hey, he gets at least bragging rights in the unlikely event he knocks out Fury, and if he loses - so what, doesn't affect his MMA record anyway.

For Fury, basically a big earner for no risk, and he's pretty much semi retired, maybe he fights Usyk, maybe not, I suspect it will never happen, I won't at all be surprised to hear Fury has retired after this fight.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Bellew took to Twitter to respond to the announcement that the two big men are coming to blows in the boxing ring.

“Said this would happen months ago and people were calling me a hater! It’s great business and believe me people will watch it! HOWEVER someone making his professional boxing debut against the best heavyweight in the world is CRAZY! Read back what I’ve just said! MADNESS!”

[adislav123]

like it or not but if ngannou knocks out fury he's the lineal boxing heavyweight champion of the world.

don't need an org's sanction for that.

[HomicideHenry]

In the highly unlikely event Ngannou won, presumably Fury would still be WBC champ?

Fury would still be WBC champion. He wouldn't be lineal champion anymore. There has been a few examples throughout history where champions lost non-title fights, but were still an alphabet champion afterwards. So the precedent is there.

As for this event in particular the closest examples I can think is Pete Rademacher and Marvis Frazier. Pete fought for the title in his debut, while Marvis was only a lineal title defense for Holmes.

But since it's a ten round bout, one might argue the lineal title is not on the line, but I'm a hardcore purist and in accordance to John L. Sullivan's logic the title is ALWAYS on the line whether it's 4 rounds or an unlimited number of rounds.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Ngannou is looking at over $8million (£6m) for this.

Fury considerably more.

Ngannou's last UFC purse was $600,000.



"This is life-changing," Martin told The MMA Hour last night. "This is exactly what we planned and visualised so we're happy." When asked if the purse is more than his entire UFC career to date, he responded that it was "by far, by multiples." "He would have had to fight, even by being champion, multiple times just to be in this ballpark."

[adislav123]

h9w kuch does daba white make per year?

just fuckin embarrassing to pay 'your' heavyweight champ 600 000 per fight.

[Nightmare Roy]

h9w kuch does daba white make per year?

just fuckin embarrassing to pay 'your' heavyweight champ 600 000 per fight.

He's a billionaire whilst his fighters literally get buttons, I dont blame his fighters for trying to cross over.

[SteveO]

I'm a hardcore purist and in accordance to John L. Sullivan's logic the title is ALWAYS on the line whether it's 4 rounds or an unlimited number of rounds.

True: Ngannou would become the lineal heavyweight champion should he manage to beat Fury.

[Lackeos]

On the plus side, Fury's antics with the WWE and his fight with Ngannou may bring a few more fans into boxing. But it's not the most productive boxing match and won't enhance Fury's legacy. My hope is that he maximizes his legacy by, at some point, fighting Usyk, and fighting a good version of Joshua when he's got some momentum.

[apollo creed]

I can totally see why Ngannou is taking it, UFC fighters don't earn anything like what top flight boxers do, due to the business model of UFC, he will get a career record payday, and hey, he gets at least bragging rights in the unlikely event he knocks out Fury, and if he loses - so what, doesn't affect his MMA record anyway.

For Fury, basically a big earner for no risk, and he's pretty much semi retired, maybe he fights Usyk, maybe not, I suspect it will never happen, I won't at all be surprised to hear Fury has retired after this fight.

yup, its all about making big money/hit the big jackpot and doing the right moves. acceptable risk vs high reward type of business.

people would buy it big time and spend their hard earned money

[jamesmcdonnell]

On the plus side, Fury's antics with the WWE and his fight with Ngannou may bring a few more fans into boxing. But it's not the most productive boxing match and won't enhance Fury's legacy. My hope is that he maximizes his legacy by, at some point, fighting Usyk, and fighting a good version of Joshua when he's got some momentum.

Joshua isn't going to be getting any better at this stage of things, he's never really been the same since the terribly loss to Ruiz, and I cannot see him ever getting back to the fighter he was before it.

I think the Wilder fight could well be the end of his career.

[jamesmcdonnell]

h9w kuch does daba white make per year?

just fuckin embarrassing to pay 'your' heavyweight champ 600 000 per fight.

White isn't worth that much, he's the front for the UFC, he doesn't own it. Endeavour Group bought it out from Zuffa. White is very wealthy, but he's not as rich as that.

[tiny_acres]

h9w kuch does daba white make per year?

just fuckin embarrassing to pay 'your' heavyweight champ 600 000 per fight.

White isn't worth that much, he's the front for the UFC, he doesn't own it. Endeavour Group bought it out from Zuffa. White is very wealthy, but he's not as rich as that.

Dana Whites net worth is estimated at 500 million. That's pretty rich to me

[Roars Like Me]

I'm a hardcore purist and in accordance to John L. Sullivan's logic the title is ALWAYS on the line whether it's 4 rounds or an unlimited number of rounds.

True: Ngannou would become the lineal heavyweight champion should he manage to beat Fury.

I presume that hasn't been done at any weight either , 1-0-0.

[jamesmcdonnell]

h9w kuch does daba white make per year?

just fuckin embarrassing to pay 'your' heavyweight champ 600 000 per fight.

White isn't worth that much, he's the front for the UFC, he doesn't own it. Endeavour Group bought it out from Zuffa. White is very wealthy, but he's not as rich as that.

Dana Whites net worth is estimated at 500 million. That's pretty rich to me

Oh yeah, i mean, hes hardly skint.

[Thomastearns]

I almost wish Fury would get knocked out but it would be a black mark on the sport

It will be anyway.

The heavyweight champion of the world (one of them at least), who's been boxing since he could stand up, fighting against a complete and utter novice?

A cowardly move befitting the money-grubbing Fury.

Now if Fury were to take on Ngannou in the cage, that would be something more befitting someone who would have us believe he's the best fighter on the planet.

Perhaps Fury might also want to consider seeking sponsorship from KFC?

[HomicideHenry]

I almost wish Fury would get knocked out but it would be a black mark on the sport

It will be anyway.

The heavyweight champion of the world (one of them at least), who's been boxing since he could stand up, fighting against a complete and utter novice?

A cowardly move befitting the money-grubbing Fury.

Now if Fury were to take on Ngannou in the cage, that would be something more befitting someone who would have us believe he's the best fighter on the planet.

Perhaps Fury might also want to consider seeking sponsorship from KFC?

Hey George Foreman vs Tommy Morrison was sponsored by Kentucky Fried Chicken.



Mind you, I know you were trying to be insulting about the whole situation. But there were plenty of great champions who had sponsorship from KFC and other places.

[Redback Rasta]

h9w kuch does daba white make per year?

just fuckin embarrassing to pay 'your' heavyweight champ 600 000 per fight.

White isn't worth that much, he's the front for the UFC, he doesn't own it. Endeavour Group bought it out from Zuffa. White is very wealthy, but he's not as rich as that.

Dana Whites net worth is estimated at 500 million. That's pretty rich to me :lol:

and me.

[Noxy]

Who is this guy Ngannou? I don’t get this at all.

[SendoTakeshi]

Who is this guy Ngannou? I don’t get this at all.

My Uber driver. Very nice guy.
I put in a good word for him, to get a nice payday.
He may not look like it, but he is a known french street fighter.

[HomicideHenry]

Who is this guy Ngannou? I don’t get this at all.

Lineal UFC heavyweight champion.

This is the first time since 1976 that the reigning heavyweight boxing champion has taken on the champion of another combat sport. So that's the novelty.

[pound per pound]

Who is this guy Ngannou? I don’t get this at all.

Lineal UFC heavyweight champion.

This is the first time since 1976 that the reigning heavyweight boxing champion has taken on the champion of another combat sport. So that's the novelty.

Ali lost that event, though officially it was ruled as draw. Ngannou is sloppy and can't box which could be a problem for him. It a problem for Fury if 0-0 boxer Nannnou lands tough. Best stated Ngannou has a sloppy punchers chance.

The rules are unclear. The glove size, the amount rounds, and the size of the ring are hazy too. What's clear if Fury's title is not on the line. Does this make sense?

No PED tests either,

The WBC shamefully sanctioned this " fight " Ah, those fees and money given the the WBC.

MMA fans and Fury fans will be paying for this thing.

[adislav123]

it makes sense businesswise for sure. otherwise it wouldn't be happening.

the heavyweight boxing champion of the world versus the ufc heavyweight champion.

is it what the real boxing fans wanna see? not really! they want fury vs usyk!

is it what the real mma fans wanna see? not really! they want ngannou vs jones!

will a majority of those real fight fans of 2 different sports watch this crossover fight?

most probably yes and that's why it will most probably top the numbers that any event in mma or boxing has produced recently.

[Redback Rasta]

it makes sense businesswise for sure. otherwise it wouldn't be happening.

the heavyweight boxing champion of the world versus the ufc heavyweight champion.

is it what the real boxing fans wanna see? not really! they want fury vs usyk!

is it what the real mma fans wanna see? not really! they want ngannou vs jones!

will a majority of those real fight fans of 2 different sports watch this crossover fight?

most probably yes and that's why it will most probably top the numbers that any event in mma or boxing has produced recently.

The purists can please themselves on this one. It is the casual's dollars that will see to its success.

[Evander]

This isn't going to work.
Who is he ?