Deontay Wilder vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. | PPV - Who wins?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Andy Ruiz Sr – father and manager of Andy Ruiz Jr. – accused Wilder of attempting to avoid negotiating with him to go straight for his son.

“What happens is that Wilder is a liar,” said Ruiz Sr. “He [Wilder] and his trainer [Malik Scott] want Andy to accept a ridiculous amount of money.

“But Andy is not a random name. Andy is a former world champion, the first Mexican heavyweight world champion in history. A former champion, he made history”.

Wilder reportedly put a thirty percent contract on the table for the PPV event that would be broadcast on Showtime and potentially staged in Los Angeles or Las Vegas.

Senior wants a significant improvement before signing off for his son.

“It’s not good money. They offer almost the same amount of money that [Andy] received when he beat [Luis] Ortiz.

“How is it possible to receive the same amount of money with Wilder than with King Kong [Ortiz]? Andy and Wilder are going to fill up a stadium. They are going to sell a crazy amount of PPV because everybody wants to see that fight.

“They are not offering a fair split. The only thing we are asking is a 50-50 split. We are not asking for anything else. 50-50, and we are ready to fight Wilder.

“We will give him a good beating. Wilder will suffer the same beating as Joshua [in 2019].”

“Our lawyer and I have been protecting Andy to being paid good money. Why would he accept a deal where they are offering less money?

“He will not accept. Andy has enough money because of the investments that he has made. He has millions of dollars. That’s why Wilder is angry because he had to negotiate with me.

“He wanted me to persuade my son to fight for a certain amount. He is dumb. But he is stupid if he thinks that I would try to persuade my son to accept a fight for that money when Andy doesn’t want to fight for that amount. He [Wilder] is out of his mind.”

Concluding by sending a message that Wilder has no alternatives for the summer, Ruiz Sr. stated: “We don’t have a deadline.

“Wilder doesn’t have any other options at this moment. Where is he going to fight? His option is to fight again with King Kong [Ortiz]. But Ortiz is low profile now. Nobody knows about him. He is not in the news anymore.

“There is Chris Arreola, but Arreola is going to fight Frank Sanchez. Joshua? He is not fighting Joshua at this moment.

“Fury? He will fight with Usyk in December [not confirmed], and they will probably have a rematch clause. They will fight again at the end of 2024.

“Wilder will be 40 years old at that moment. Andy is his only option, with both receiving good money.”

[Redback Rasta]

Doesn't sound too promising. Perhaps Wilder will just sit it out until December.

[KiwiRider]

I'm not surprised Wilder was only offering 30%.
In his mind he still probably thinks he is the baddest man on the planet. He doesn't see his value drop after two straight losses ( most of us say three) and no belt.
And his creeping age is a concern for a guy that has one weapon that is dependent on fast twitch fibres and very little else in his arsenal (most of us would say nothing else).

[Redback Rasta]

Ruiz seems to think this fight is now back on the agenda :

“We’re negotiating right now, man. It’s gonna happen, it’s gonna happen soon.”

[golden_labrador]

I can already see Andy trying to get up after the first knockdown not knowing who he is anymore. I miss Deontay fighting!

[margaret thatcher]

ffs these dudes just need to fight already

[oogiebe]

ffs these dudes just need to fight already

seriously

[SendoTakeshi]

It's not even a full year.
That's pretty good for boxing negotiation

[oogiebe]

It's not even a full year.
That's pretty good for boxing negotiation

truly!

[Ruthless-RKO]

Exclusive: Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr. confirmed OFF

World Boxing News has exclusively been informed that a fight between Deontay Wilder and heavyweight rival Andy Ruiz Jr. is off the table.

Contacting Wilder’s co-manager Shelly Finkel ahead of a big night for Anthony Joshua, WBN asked the New Yorker for an update.

“I know it’s adventurous, but the plan right now is to beat Robert Helenius, beat Deontay Wilder, and then beat Tyson Fury,” Hearn told Fighthub TV. “That is what we want to do.

“Step one is [Helenius], and if we don’t get past step one, we’re screwed. So focus on that as it’s what we want to do.

“I expect the Wilder fight to be made. The Saudi guys will be there [at AJ vs Helenius]. He [Joshua] hopefully gets the win, and we can get it done.”

Will Deontay Wilder vs Anthony Joshua be confirmed in London?

Reports immediately centered from the interview on the possibility of Wilder vs Joshua being agreed upon as early as this weekend. However, it’s only been a few weeks since Wilder called out Ruiz again.

The pair went back and forth, but ultimately Wilder stated Ruiz had wanted a more significant cut of the purse than anticipated. WBN still believed talks were happening behind the scenes.

However, WBN wanted confirmation from Finkel that Wilder was in a position to negotiate with Joshua free from Ruiz.

Before talk of Wilder vs Joshua, the WBC had sanctioned the Ruiz fight as a final eliminator for Tyson Fury. However, Wilder is no longer pursuing that option, according to Finkel.

“I can confirm that Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr. is off, for now,” Finkel told World Boxing News exclusively.

Asked about confirmed Wilder vs Joshua on Saturday night at the O2 Arena in London, Finkel responded: “All I can say is that I hope Anthony Joshua wins the fight.”

WBC final eliminator for Tyson Fury shot

The admission by Finkel clears up the WBC eliminator, but not what happens if Wilder vs Joshua gets over the line. Will World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman be willing to switch sanctions from Wilder vs Ruiz to the Joshua fight?

Joshua is ranked number three by the WBC in the latest August ratings, a move up from previous positions. This could mean the WBC would allow the alteration without a purse bid.

The condition could be that the winner of Wilder vs Joshua fights Ruiz before being given the green light for Fury. WBN intends to put that to Mr. Sulaiman.

It makes sense to allow Wilder vs Joshua for the mandatory spot. Fury hasn’t had a stipulation since Dillian Whyte sixteen months ago.

All Joshua has to do is get through Helenius. Wilder could then await, along with a sanctioned path to a UK super-fight with Tyson Fury.

The pressure on the Londonder’s shoulders has since intensified many times over.

[joshj909]

Neither wanted to slip up before the huge payday against each other in the winter.

Ruiz needs to face someone half decent soon otherwise he begins to fade into obscurity. Loser of Zhang/Joyce? Sanchez? Bakole? Anderson? Makhmudov? I expect he wants big money but there's only a handful of guys that can offer that and if he can't face them he needs to be willing to face someone else for a little less.

[Redback Rasta]

Disappointing that we are not getting Wilder-Ruiz but somewhat predictable too.

[Ruthless-RKO]

“What happened was that Andy tried to out-price himself,” Scott told FightHubTV. “Same way he did with Fury, same way he’s done with other fighters that he wanted to fight. This time (with Wilder) he was dealing with someone that don’t have to fight him for money. So if you wanna play games he wants the same money that he was getting when he was a champion in a blink of an eye.

“You don’t get that same money: you’re a contender now. You don’t get that type of money. I don’t get mad at nobody for striving for higher revenue. It’s a tough sport. He did what he had to do as far as fighting for the gain of revenue for him and his family—it didn’t work and we’re onto bigger and better things.”

[stevec@france]

wilder wont want to make the mistake aj did with ruiz

[Tony1244]

Aren't Wilder and Ruiz both busy getting tattoos, doing drugs, and fighting with their birds? Do they really have time for boxing?

[oogiebe]

Aren't Wilder and Ruiz both busy getting tattoos, doing drugs, and fighting with their birds? Do they really have time for boxing?

[funso banjo baby]

Alphabets aren't really 'historic'

Soz

[Redback Rasta]

“What happened was that Andy tried to out-price himself,” Scott told FightHubTV. “Same way he did with Fury, same way he’s done with other fighters that he wanted to fight. This time (with Wilder) he was dealing with someone that don’t have to fight him for money. So if you wanna play games he wants the same money that he was getting when he was a champion in a blink of an eye.

“You don’t get that same money: you’re a contender now. You don’t get that type of money. I don’t get mad at nobody for striving for higher revenue. It’s a tough sport. He did what he had to do as far as fighting for the gain of revenue for him and his family—it didn’t work and we’re onto bigger and better things.”

Agree in principal with what Scott is saying there but Fury, like Wilder didn't need the money and wasn't going to be dictated to by someone who didn't have a belt to bring to the table.

[Finkel]

Simple solution: WBC set the split and put it to purse bids. If either Wilder or Ruiz pulls out, they lose their ranking and get replaced. Just go down the WBC rankings to find the next available opponent, like Fury did to find Ngannou

[margaret thatcher]

the top 2 american hws, both former world champs, both popular in the us........longtime affiliated with the pbc at the same time.

this fight should've happened already, it makes perfect sense. it is competitively matched and lots would watch

[Redback Rasta]

Simple solution: WBC set the split and put it to purse bids. If either Wilder or Ruiz pulls out, they lose their ranking and get replaced.

So much like commonsense it is little wonder it doesn't happen in boxing.