Why do so many middle-aged men like to pretend they "know" boxers?

[wrighty]

I am grossly guilty of getting photos of loads of boxers … I feel I got to know a fair of them.

If I was asked what fighter I knew the most … itnwould be David Haye so much so I feel I could write a book on him.

The nice David Haye was extremely funny, generous and a pleasure to be around … the last 6 months I saw the total **** and for years I hated him for it. By the time I finished working for him I was almost the last member of the team remaining.

What was the crack there spud? I'm always curious about why Groves left the team. He was on a tear!

People still to this day doubt my version of events. Some even pour scorn on my claim of that I was in
the Hayemaker Gym on the very last night that Groves came to collect his personal items.

It wasnt a pleasant occasion with Adam Booths
PA in tears and me telling George to **** off.

Irreconcilable differences is the most logical way to explain things

Could it have been saved? I felt it must have been happening for a while as Booth didn't go to the presser for Froch

[coneye]

[quote=Spud post_id=5938375 time=1694022793 user

It wasnt a pleasant occasion with Adam Booths
PA in tears and me telling George to **** off.

Why would Adam Groves need a PA , I run a small company with 24 employees ,doing a couple big jobs and has many has 100-150 small jobs a week , night time done all the invoicing and bookwork plus training ameteur boxers , couple of pro boxers , 5 times a week , , no one had to do my shoe laces for me . is he that important he needs a PA.. . sORRY USED TO RUN RETRIRED NOW .

[Tarquin Tarpaulin IV]

AJ once asked me if I was famous, I sparred with the number one British Heavyweight and my nephews sons mothers mother is related by birth to one of the best known 1960's heavyweights.
So stick that in your pipe and smoke it when you see me standing with raised fist in a Ricky Hatoff photoshoot.

[Coco]

[quote=Spud post_id=5938375 time=1694022793 user

It wasnt a pleasant occasion with Adam Booths
PA in tears and me telling George to **** off.

Why would Adam Groves need a PA , I run a small company with 24 employees ,doing a couple big jobs and has many has 100-150 small jobs a week , night time done all the invoicing and bookwork plus training ameteur boxers , couple of pro boxers , 5 times a week , , no one had to do my shoe laces for me . is he that important he needs a PA.. . sORRY USED TO RUN RETRIRED NOW .

A lot of people hire PA's and rent offices just to look good, normally they don't make any money.
The fella doing his own books in his bedroom is prob making money

[Boxerbeetle]

[quote=Spud post_id=5938375 time=1694022793 user

It wasnt a pleasant occasion with Adam Booths
PA in tears and me telling George to **** off.

Why would Adam Groves need a PA , I run a small company with 24 employees ,doing a couple big jobs and has many has 100-150 small jobs a week , night time done all the invoicing and bookwork plus training ameteur boxers , couple of pro boxers , 5 times a week , , no one had to do my shoe laces for me . is he that important he needs a PA.. . sORRY USED TO RUN RETRIRED NOW .

I imagine it would mainly be to manage Booth’s diary with media appointments etc?

[coneye]

[quote=Spud post_id=5938375 time=1694022793 user

It wasnt a pleasant occasion with Adam Booths
PA in tears and me telling George to **** off.

Why would Adam Groves need a PA , I run a small company with 24 employees ,doing a couple big jobs and has many has 100-150 small jobs a week , night time done all the invoicing and bookwork plus training ameteur boxers , couple of pro boxers , 5 times a week , , no one had to do my shoe laces for me . is he that important he needs a PA.. . sORRY USED TO RUN RETRIRED NOW .

A lot of people hire PA's and rent offices just to look good, normally they don't make any money.
The fella doing his own books in his bedroom is prob making money

You are 100% CORRECT ,,, I actually made more money when i had 7-8 employees , got to 24 then had to hire a non productive supervisor , 24 was too many for me to handle on my own plus had to bring in someone to help with the office work ,, did'nt take me long to work it all out and cut back to 8-10 , my lad just found it out the hard way , dispite my advice he chased couple of big contracts , won them and started hemoraging money ,,, he can't wait for them big jobs to finish and get back to his 4-5 workers , more money less stress

[Cask]

It's surprising I admit, with boxers and footballers these days - I am old enough to be their father - there is no chance of me heroworshipping a sportsperson today like I did Mike Tyson or Mark Hughes back in the eighties when I was a kid. I find it bizarre but I am sure most middle aged men don't.

Isn't it shit when your hero turns out to be a rapist

[Cask]

[quote=Spud post_id=5938375 time=1694022793 user

It wasnt a pleasant occasion with Adam Booths
PA in tears and me telling George to **** off.

Why would Adam Groves need a PA , I run a small company with 24 employees ,doing a couple big jobs and has many has 100-150 small jobs a week , night time done all the invoicing and bookwork plus training ameteur boxers , couple of pro boxers , 5 times a week , , no one had to do my shoe laces for me . is he that important he needs a PA.. . sORRY USED TO RUN RETRIRED NOW .

A lot of people hire PA's and rent offices just to look good, normally they don't make any money.
The fella doing his own books in his bedroom is prob making money

Or to make them cry to look good

[Wake up call]

I think I'm the opposite of those that pretend to know boxers.

I've worked in boxing on and off for nearly two decades and probably only have about five photos to show for it.

[Coco]

I think I'm the opposite of those that pretend to know boxers.

I've worked in boxing on and off for nearly two decades and probably only have about five photos to show for it.

It's one of my regrets, when I was fighting in the 90's you needed to make an effort to have your picture taken, no digital cameras or mobiles.

You were so focused on the fight that you never bothered.

The few I have, I treasure, but they were of fights.

I really wish that I had more pics in the changing room with the different fighters and characters around the game.

[coneye]

I think I'm the opposite of those that pretend to know boxers.

I've worked in boxing on and off for nearly two decades and probably only have about five photos to show for it.

It's one of my regrets, when I was fighting in the 90's you needed to make an effort to have your picture taken, no digital cameras or mobiles.

You were so focused on the fight that you never bothered.

The few I have, I treasure, but they were of fights.

I really wish that I had more pics in the changing room with the different fighters and characters around the game.

Can see where your coming from all the years i was involved one way or another i never took photos
Has a present my wife got lads i trained to scrape together pics of them and me , and theres very few, probably onlya dozen photos in all around the place even my own sons we had 1 of the eldest , 2 of the middle lad and 2 of the youngest and over a 150 fights between them.. theres not one of myself in the ring , i used to shy away from the cameras when asked to jump in photos i would always say ,no need the lads know who done what , guess what i,m sorry now wish i,d of jumped in all of them would of been nice to look back now

[SeanBrennan]

Middle-aged men pretend they are a lot of things, a lot of it is due to low self esteem or the realisation that they've done absolutely nothing worthwhile in their pathetically tedious boring life.

read this nodding then realised i'm 39 and fall in this bracket...

[Syntax Error]

What happened to the days when we used to accuse middle aged men of buying a Mazda MX-5?

[banjo]

What happened to the days when we used to accuse middle aged men of buying a Mazda MX-5?

Aye, hit middle age and all of a sudden they bought a convertible or a Harley

[MasterG]

I bumped into Henry Wharton in Whitby a few years ago. He knew who I was straight away.

Actually Dave Allen is currently staying in Whitby as I've seen him on the beach on his Instagram page. I'm guessing he's here because of Henry Wharton a few years ago. Unfortunately I'm at work today so won't get to meet up with him.

[MasterG]

Me and Roy Foreman hit it off many years ago in London when I went to London Arena to see his brother fight. I've got to tell you me and Jackie Berg were having a right conversation when Chris Pyatt and Mr Warren came over for a brief chat. Unfortunately I was too busy with Frank Bruno at the time and had to rush off to speak with big James Oyebola. After that I went over to see Gerry ODowd, big boxing family he came from and wanted to meet up with his brother Boy George who was in a big group at the time. Had to laugh as George wasn't there but we could have had a great old natter.

I've met up with loads of boxers and regard them as my close friends really.

[tonyevs]

When I boxed amateur (80s & 90s) there was almost always someone video recording the fights, whether a professional or a committee member doing it - I couldn`t always afford them, or if I lost badly, want to buy them .. but back then pretty much anyone who boxed amateur will have a few old videos to look back on.

As already written, mobile phones pix weren`t a thing 20-25 yrs ago so taking a pic was a lot more deliberate. That said there often used to be people with a video recorders or slr cameras taking pics of us training.
Most of the pictures I still have of the time I used to box are with guys nobody would have heard of. Despite being around guys who went on to become quite famous on the Welsh professional scene, at the time I`d never thought theyd acheive the level of success they did so later.

Before he`d won any titles Steve Robinson used to do fitness classes with Ronnie Rush in a local club. He used to hang out with us quite often. Circuits at another gym; runs, occasional night out .. but he isn`t in one picture I have because he wasn`t `a real mate` at that time.
Going over to Newbridge club where we`d spar the likes of the Pryce brothers, Calzaghe etc was again not a place we`d consider taking pix. Calzaghe was an odd fella and lots of the others there were very stand off-ish.
The highlight was always Dai Gardners gym .. most local pros went there so always a good environment. I remember meeting Robbie Regan which would have been in 1990 because he had just fought in Italy - I was in awe at the tiny kid who looked about 12 ... but was like a magician on the floor to ceiling ball.

[Coco]

The boxing community is quite small, especially in your area if you are a genuine part of the community you get to know everyone

[si7dog7]

The boxing community is quite small, especially in your area if you are a genuine part of the community you get to know everyone

This. 100%.

[SeanBrennan]

I bumped into Henry Wharton in Whitby a few years ago. He knew who I was straight away.

Actually Dave Allen is currently staying in Whitby as I've seen him on the beach on his Instagram page. I'm guessing he's here because of Henry Wharton a few years ago. Unfortunately I'm at work today so won't get to meet up with him.

Aye he's preparing Joe Hayden for his 11th fight at the mo, Hayden is fighting in Sheffield on October 6th, got ringside tickets from Joe for that. I don't think there is anything wrong with admiring boxers, I know Joe a bit as he's local and a nice lad. The likes of Spud, Coco etc. didn't just 'know' boxers, they were immersed in the sport so it's a lot different for them I think, if I worked in the sport like they did I'd want to have memories, photographs etc.

Ricky Hatton was in Bawtry in the past couple of weeks and had time for everyone, my mate got pics with him, not to pretend he knows him but just because it's nice to meet your heroes (esp when they turn out to be nice people, which Ricky was).

[MasterG]

I bumped into Henry Wharton in Whitby a few years ago. He knew who I was straight away.

Actually Dave Allen is currently staying in Whitby as I've seen him on the beach on his Instagram page. I'm guessing he's here because of Henry Wharton a few years ago. Unfortunately I'm at work today so won't get to meet up with him.

Aye he's preparing Joe Hayden for his 11th fight at the mo, Hayden is fighting in Sheffield on October 6th, got ringside tickets from Joe for that. I don't think there is anything wrong with admiring boxers, I know Joe a bit as he's local and a nice lad. The likes of Spud, Coco etc. didn't just 'know' boxers, they were immersed in the sport so it's a lot different for them I think, if I worked in the sport like they did I'd want to have memories, photographs etc.

Ricky Hatton was in Bawtry in the past couple of weeks and had time for everyone, my mate got pics with him, not to pretend he knows him but just because it's nice to meet your heroes (esp when they turn out to be nice people, which Ricky was).

Not know how long they are in Whitby for but would have liked to bumped into Dave.

[Steveh583]

When I boxed amateur (80s & 90s) there was almost always someone video recording the fights, whether a professional or a committee member doing it - I couldn`t always afford them, or if I lost badly, want to buy them .. but back then pretty much anyone who boxed amateur will have a few old videos to look back on.

As already written, mobile phones pix weren`t a thing 20-25 yrs ago so taking a pic was a lot more deliberate. That said there often used to be people with a video recorders or slr cameras taking pics of us training.
Most of the pictures I still have of the time I used to box are with guys nobody would have heard of. Despite being around guys who went on to become quite famous on the Welsh professional scene, at the time I`d never thought theyd acheive the level of success they did so later.

Before he`d won any titles Steve Robinson used to do fitness classes with Ronnie Rush in a local club. He used to hang out with us quite often. Circuits at another gym; runs, occasional night out .. but he isn`t in one picture I have because he wasn`t `a real mate` at that time.
Going over to Newbridge club where we`d spar the likes of the Pryce brothers, Calzaghe etc was again not a place we`d consider taking pix. Calzaghe was an odd fella and lots of the others there were very stand off-ish.
The highlight was always Dai Gardners gym .. most local pros went there so always a good environment. I remember meeting Robbie Regan which would have been in 1990 because he had just fought in Italy - I was in awe at the tiny kid who looked about 12 ... but was like a magician on the floor to ceiling ball.

what happened to robbie regan? I saw him at a function shortly into his retirement and he made a bloody fool of himself pissed up. thought he was an accident waiting to happen.

[JamesPhilips]

When I boxed amateur (80s & 90s) there was almost always someone video recording the fights, whether a professional or a committee member doing it - I couldn`t always afford them, or if I lost badly, want to buy them .. but back then pretty much anyone who boxed amateur will have a few old videos to look back on.

As already written, mobile phones pix weren`t a thing 20-25 yrs ago so taking a pic was a lot more deliberate. That said there often used to be people with a video recorders or slr cameras taking pics of us training.
Most of the pictures I still have of the time I used to box are with guys nobody would have heard of. Despite being around guys who went on to become quite famous on the Welsh professional scene, at the time I`d never thought theyd acheive the level of success they did so later.

Before he`d won any titles Steve Robinson used to do fitness classes with Ronnie Rush in a local club. He used to hang out with us quite often. Circuits at another gym; runs, occasional night out .. but he isn`t in one picture I have because he wasn`t `a real mate` at that time.
Going over to Newbridge club where we`d spar the likes of the Pryce brothers, Calzaghe etc was again not a place we`d consider taking pix. Calzaghe was an odd fella and lots of the others there were very stand off-ish.
The highlight was always Dai Gardners gym .. most local pros went there so always a good environment. I remember meeting Robbie Regan which would have been in 1990 because he had just fought in Italy - I was in awe at the tiny kid who looked about 12 ... but was like a magician on the floor to ceiling ball.

what happened to robbie regan? I saw him at a function shortly into his retirement and he made a bloody fool of himself pissed up. thought he was an accident waiting to happen.

What did he do?

[Steveh583]

When I boxed amateur (80s & 90s) there was almost always someone video recording the fights, whether a professional or a committee member doing it - I couldn`t always afford them, or if I lost badly, want to buy them .. but back then pretty much anyone who boxed amateur will have a few old videos to look back on.

As already written, mobile phones pix weren`t a thing 20-25 yrs ago so taking a pic was a lot more deliberate. That said there often used to be people with a video recorders or slr cameras taking pics of us training.
Most of the pictures I still have of the time I used to box are with guys nobody would have heard of. Despite being around guys who went on to become quite famous on the Welsh professional scene, at the time I`d never thought theyd acheive the level of success they did so later.

Before he`d won any titles Steve Robinson used to do fitness classes with Ronnie Rush in a local club. He used to hang out with us quite often. Circuits at another gym; runs, occasional night out .. but he isn`t in one picture I have because he wasn`t `a real mate` at that time.
Going over to Newbridge club where we`d spar the likes of the Pryce brothers, Calzaghe etc was again not a place we`d consider taking pix. Calzaghe was an odd fella and lots of the others there were very stand off-ish.
The highlight was always Dai Gardners gym .. most local pros went there so always a good environment. I remember meeting Robbie Regan which would have been in 1990 because he had just fought in Italy - I was in awe at the tiny kid who looked about 12 ... but was like a magician on the floor to ceiling ball.

what happened to robbie regan? I saw him at a function shortly into his retirement and he made a bloody fool of himself pissed up. thought he was an accident waiting to happen.

What did he do?

just all over the show, interrupting the proceedings trying to be funny. shouting, swearing.....any other drunk basically.

[tonyevs]

When I boxed amateur (80s & 90s) there was almost always someone video recording the fights, whether a professional or a committee member doing it - I couldn`t always afford them, or if I lost badly, want to buy them .. but back then pretty much anyone who boxed amateur will have a few old videos to look back on.

As already written, mobile phones pix weren`t a thing 20-25 yrs ago so taking a pic was a lot more deliberate. That said there often used to be people with a video recorders or slr cameras taking pics of us training.
Most of the pictures I still have of the time I used to box are with guys nobody would have heard of. Despite being around guys who went on to become quite famous on the Welsh professional scene, at the time I`d never thought theyd acheive the level of success they did so later.

Before he`d won any titles Steve Robinson used to do fitness classes with Ronnie Rush in a local club. He used to hang out with us quite often. Circuits at another gym; runs, occasional night out .. but he isn`t in one picture I have because he wasn`t `a real mate` at that time.
Going over to Newbridge club where we`d spar the likes of the Pryce brothers, Calzaghe etc was again not a place we`d consider taking pix. Calzaghe was an odd fella and lots of the others there were very stand off-ish.
The highlight was always Dai Gardners gym .. most local pros went there so always a good environment. I remember meeting Robbie Regan which would have been in 1990 because he had just fought in Italy - I was in awe at the tiny kid who looked about 12 ... but was like a magician on the floor to ceiling ball.

what happened to robbie regan? I saw him at a function shortly into his retirement and he made a bloody fool of himself pissed up. thought he was an accident waiting to happen.

He went through a rough patch with the beer for quite a while as a lot of sports people who dedicate themselves 100% do.
I know his sister-in-law pretty well, and from what I`m told he had a good mate who had his back and is doing OK now. He is doing the occasional local meet and greet type appearance .. pubs and care home type thing.
I think he started, or was talking of starting, training amateurs for awhile - but unsure if he actually did.