So this Saudi deal....

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Frostieballs wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 06:52
BigDoofus wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 03:53
big lennox wrote: 15 Sep 2023, 06:36
Totally agree. Uysk has dealt with him.
Turning down £17000000 to fight Fury to earn a fraction of that in Poland really dealt with him.
It’s also about principle. Not something your man would know about.

He’d already bent over enough to get the fight. Everyone has their limits.

And don’t trot out the old line that ‘Usyks own team said they didn’t blame Fury for the fight not happening’. What the guy actually meant was, you can’t blame Fury for his demands given his massively over inflated opinion of his own value.
Usyk’s principles led him to insist on him getting 70% of the rematch purse on a rival promoter’s show in his rivals country. He then fled to Poland without telling the rival promoter.
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Jesus Doofy, it's the weekend. Get out and do something rather than sitting around crying about how much a complete letdown and laughingstock your hero has be become. :doh:

It appears that, not only did Usyk destroy Fury mentally, but he destroyed the psyche of the Fury fan bois as well.
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pretty resounding response from the people....
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BigDoofus wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 07:53
Frostieballs wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 06:52
BigDoofus wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 03:53

Turning down £17000000 to fight Fury to earn a fraction of that in Poland really dealt with him.
It’s also about principle. Not something your man would know about.

He’d already bent over enough to get the fight. Everyone has their limits.

And don’t trot out the old line that ‘Usyks own team said they didn’t blame Fury for the fight not happening’. What the guy actually meant was, you can’t blame Fury for his demands given his massively over inflated opinion of his own value.
Usyk’s principles led him to insist on him getting 70% of the rematch purse on a rival promoter’s show in his rivals country. He then fled to Poland without telling the rival promoter.
Jesus Doofus. Talk about myopic.

If I recall correctly he accepted 30-70 against without a rematch.

If he accepts that when he is supposedly the B-Side, why wouldn’t he want it reciprocated as the A-Side?
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Frostieballs wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 15:53
BigDoofus wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 07:53
Frostieballs wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 06:52

It’s also about principle. Not something your man would know about.

He’d already bent over enough to get the fight. Everyone has their limits.

And don’t trot out the old line that ‘Usyks own team said they didn’t blame Fury for the fight not happening’. What the guy actually meant was, you can’t blame Fury for his demands given his massively over inflated opinion of his own value.
Usyk’s principles led him to insist on him getting 70% of the rematch purse on a rival promoter’s show in his rivals country. He then fled to Poland without telling the rival promoter.
Jesus Doofus. Talk about myopic.

If I recall correctly he accepted 30-70 against without a rematch.

If he accepts that when he is supposedly the B-Side, why wouldn’t he want it reciprocated as the A-Side?
You,ll argue wjth Big John till your blue in the face , tell me though John , why did you shit it with the cockney car wash guy
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BigDoofus wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 07:53
Frostieballs wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 06:52
BigDoofus wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 03:53

Turning down £17000000 to fight Fury to earn a fraction of that in Poland really dealt with him.
It’s also about principle. Not something your man would know about.

He’d already bent over enough to get the fight. Everyone has their limits.

And don’t trot out the old line that ‘Usyks own team said they didn’t blame Fury for the fight not happening’. What the guy actually meant was, you can’t blame Fury for his demands given his massively over inflated opinion of his own value.
Usyk’s principles led him to insist on him getting 70% of the rematch purse on a rival promoter’s show in his rivals country. He then fled to Poland without telling the rival promoter.
Ya man shit it and ya know it.
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Frostieballs wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 15:53
BigDoofus wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 07:53
Frostieballs wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 06:52

It’s also about principle. Not something your man would know about.

He’d already bent over enough to get the fight. Everyone has their limits.

And don’t trot out the old line that ‘Usyks own team said they didn’t blame Fury for the fight not happening’. What the guy actually meant was, you can’t blame Fury for his demands given his massively over inflated opinion of his own value.
Usyk’s principles led him to insist on him getting 70% of the rematch purse on a rival promoter’s show in his rivals country. He then fled to Poland without telling the rival promoter.
Jesus Doofus. Talk about myopic.

If I recall correctly he accepted 30-70 against without a rematch.

If he accepts that when he is supposedly the B-Side, why wouldn’t he want it reciprocated as the A-Side?
If he was the A-Side his promoter should put the show on and try and sell tickets for more than €11.
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big lennox wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 04:48
BigDoofus wrote: 16 Sep 2023, 03:53
big lennox wrote: 15 Sep 2023, 06:36
Totally agree. Uysk has dealt with him.
Turning down £17000000 to fight Fury to earn a fraction of that in Poland really dealt with him.
Uysk didn't turn down anything. He realised that Fury was never going to fight him and had got wind that Fury was
A)not in training camp

B)didn't have a coach

C)had already done this Saudi deal to take on Ngannou ( have a look at the clip from February where Fury and the Saudi Prince talk about big news coming and Fury does a big wink).

Moreover, Uysk was trying to build the fight as he was in training camp, made a documentary with Gary Nevile, tweeted regularly about greedy belly and even climbed into the ring, whilst Fury hardly talked about it and downplayed the significance of a unification fight.

Fury has also come out this week and specifically said he has no interest in titles, unification matches or fighting Uysk.

Why does he keep his WBC title if he has no interest in titles?

It was fascinating to see just how angry John Fury got when KSI and Logan Paul called Tyson a bottlejob for ducking Uysk. Even the YouTube fraternity know the score, and John's reaction was a case study in the truth hurting.

That's why I think it will bother Tyson deep in retirement when he is remembered for giving Uysk and AJ ( and other's) the big swerve.

Will there be VADA testing for his fight with Ngannou?

Are you looking forward to him fighting Jon Jones after Ngannou?

Have you read Matt Christie's editorial in Boxing News, this week?


https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/editor ... yson-fury/
Just like Fury, Doofy's a prime ducker. Your questions were deemed a bit too difficult Len. :TU:
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So, this Saudi deal?


Err. There is no deal

Someone close this thread. ffs!!!!
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the sports is so unpredictable though I can imagine it being resurrected and happening.
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Those grins in the shot of the Saudis sitting around the table (posted earlier in this thread) suggest there was never, ever going to be a deal and it sure looks like there won't be :lol:
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Why would any boxing fan not want to see these fights? :maybe:
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undisputed is some other bitches dream, not the half billion dollar man's dream. maybe that's why fans of of fury , the man tackling these mma challenges because they are tougher than boxing challenges in his words, arent interested
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si7dog7 wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 08:57 So, this Saudi deal?


Err. There is no deal

Someone close this thread. ffs!!!!
Usyk turned down the Fury fight twice believing he would get the Saudi money. Anyone that believed that Joshua would fight Wilder on the undercard needs their bumps felt.
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Fury shat it vs Usyk. Shat it vs Joshua as well. The reality is he took on 38 year old Chisora and now a novice boxer instead. He's just admitted it's all about the money and he never wants to fight Usyk. Running scared.
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The Gratest wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 12:06 Fury shat it vs Usyk. Shat it vs Joshua as well. The reality is he took on 38 year old Chisora and now a novice boxer instead. He's just admitted it's all about the money and he never wants to fight Usyk. Running scared.
I really do not think Fury is scared of people, however poor his recent matchmaking
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SeanBrennan wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 13:43
The Gratest wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 12:06 Fury shat it vs Usyk. Shat it vs Joshua as well. The reality is he took on 38 year old Chisora and now a novice boxer instead. He's just admitted it's all about the money and he never wants to fight Usyk. Running scared.
I really do not think Fury is scared of people, however poor his recent matchmaking
He's not scared of people, hes scared of losing to people. That and he can't be bothered putting the work in to get top level match fit. He's just milking the mugs.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 14:00
SeanBrennan wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 13:43
The Gratest wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 12:06 Fury shat it vs Usyk. Shat it vs Joshua as well. The reality is he took on 38 year old Chisora and now a novice boxer instead. He's just admitted it's all about the money and he never wants to fight Usyk. Running scared.
I really do not think Fury is scared of people, however poor his recent matchmaking
He's not scared of people, hes scared of losing to people. That and he can't be bothered putting the work in to get top level match fit. He's just milking the mugs.
Yup :TU:
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 14:00
SeanBrennan wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 13:43
The Gratest wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 12:06 Fury shat it vs Usyk. Shat it vs Joshua as well. The reality is he took on 38 year old Chisora and now a novice boxer instead. He's just admitted it's all about the money and he never wants to fight Usyk. Running scared.
I really do not think Fury is scared of people, however poor his recent matchmaking
He's not scared of people, hes scared of losing to people. That and he can't be bothered putting the work in to get top level match fit. He's just milking the mugs.
He looks unfit, but he is always fit in fights. I'm not promoting or defending him, but he's never appeared scared, or come in and lacked fitness in recent years. He's an endomorphic Irish traveller, he carries fat well and muscle less so. I think he's taking a fight that is easy and silly money.
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SeanBrennan wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 15:25
Nightmare Roy wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 14:00
SeanBrennan wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 13:43
I really do not think Fury is scared of people, however poor his recent matchmaking
He's not scared of people, hes scared of losing to people. That and he can't be bothered putting the work in to get top level match fit. He's just milking the mugs.
He looks unfit, but he is always fit in fights. I'm not promoting or defending him, but he's never appeared scared, or come in and lacked fitness in recent years. He's an endomorphic Irish traveller, he carries fat well and muscle less so. I think he's taking a fight that is easy and silly money.
I'm not saying he's unfit, he's clearly a fit man, but i cant see him getting to the kind of fitness levels of the past which would be required to fight the top guys. He's never gonna fight one anyway as he has said, he's just cashing in on easy paydays, I don't blame him if that's what he wants, but come on give up the belt. Carnt the WBC make him WBC champ gone AWOL or whatever nonsense it is they do?
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 16:28
SeanBrennan wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 15:25
Nightmare Roy wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 14:00
He's not scared of people, hes scared of losing to people. That and he can't be bothered putting the work in to get top level match fit. He's just milking the mugs.
He looks unfit, but he is always fit in fights. I'm not promoting or defending him, but he's never appeared scared, or come in and lacked fitness in recent years. He's an endomorphic Irish traveller, he carries fat well and muscle less so. I think he's taking a fight that is easy and silly money.
I'm not saying he's unfit, he's clearly a fit man, but i cant see him getting to the kind of fitness levels of the past which would be required to fight the top guys. He's never gonna fight one anyway as he has said, he's just cashing in on easy paydays, I don't blame him if that's what he wants, but come on give up the belt. Carnt the WBC make him WBC champ gone AWOL or whatever nonsense it is they do?
understand your point mate. And don't tempt the WBC that will happen now!
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The WBC belt enhances Fury's capacity to make money. Why would he hand it back? That is up to the WBC to enforce.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 14:00
SeanBrennan wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 13:43
The Gratest wrote: 17 Sep 2023, 12:06 Fury shat it vs Usyk. Shat it vs Joshua as well. The reality is he took on 38 year old Chisora and now a novice boxer instead. He's just admitted it's all about the money and he never wants to fight Usyk. Running scared.
I really do not think Fury is scared of people, however poor his recent matchmaking
He's not scared of people, hes scared of losing to people. That and he can't be bothered putting the PEDS in to get top level match fit. He's just milking the mugs.
:TU:
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The Saudi snoozefest continues.

Still no contract for Joshua-Wilder. No date, no venue and seemingly, no hope.
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