Conor Benn - What Next?

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Isn’t he saying that his body is more prone to storing it, once consumed through food, rather than producing it himself naturally?
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Controversial wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 11:54 The problem with his excuse his body naturally produces it is why didn’t it happen before and what happens if it happens again, are they just meant to ignore it?
I was thinking that. If there is any truth to the argument then he’d have to just avoid eggs.
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Kilburn wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 12:55 Isn’t he saying that his body is more prone to storing it, once consumed through food, rather than producing it himself naturally?
But it still goes back to the fact that clomiphene is not allowed in the UK for hens or chickens. Also he has given his diet prep in a long interview for GQ in April 2022 (a few months before the failed tests) and he doesn't mention eating eggs, the only mention of eggs is egg fried rice on some days. So how is it getting in his system to be storing it up in the first place?


DIET

“The goal with my diet is to find a balance where I have all the energy I need to be a top fighter, while making sure I’m not gaining any weight. We're constantly monitoring it. Previously I tried being a vegetarian, the logic was I could eat a lot more food with less calories. I was having maybe 1800 calories, and I usually burn 3600-4000 a day. Initially this was great, but the diet quickly became repetitive, and I didn’t like that I was eating processed foods for protein. Also, I had a bit of fish after a fight, and though initially ill, I felt way better for it. Meat is too calorific, as much as I love it."

FISH BUT NO MEAT

"I'm a pescatarian now, and I need to be consuming around 2500-2800 calories a day in my opinion. I normally eat prawns, haddock or cod alongside the veggies. Generally it'll be in something like a stir-fry of tofu, courgette spaghetti, noodles, soy sauce, ginger, garlic, chilli, and cod or prawns. I try to have fish two or three days a week, I might do an egg fried rice other days. Breakfast today was 200g of 0% yoghurt, one of those Whitworth ‘shots’ sachets which is 98 calories, mixed with a little bit of protein, and I added dates to it, sometimes I have blueberries. It's special.

CARB HEAVY DAYS

“On a carb-heavy day, for example when I’m sparring, I'll have a cinnamon bagel with peanut butter and honey or jam. Maybe white bread, a banana and honey. I won't go as far as to have a chocolate bar before sparring now, but earlier in camp I might have, the sugar spike is useful for 12 rounds, gives me energy, keeps my reactions high. I like to run fast, so I do that usually.”

FIGHT WEEK MEALS

"On fight week I have a private chef, which is expensive but worth every penny. It’s partly because it means I look forward to fight week, which not many fighters can say, because I get absolutely unreal food all the time. But also the meals are different to what I’ll eat in camp, and have a lot of really specific weights and ingredients going into the dishes which I don’t have the time to think about. Everything is weighed to the miligram and is designed to make sure I'm getting the exact nutrients I need to be fight ready. They'll also factor in hydration, anti-inflammatories, gut health and things I don't tend to consider. The menu is sorted in consultation with me and my coaches. Fight week is a dream for me.”

SUPPLEMENTS

“Supplements are very important. Creatine, Beta-alanine (which helps with muscle endurance), and electrolytes are the ones I feel are green lights. As in, there's enough science behind them to prove to me that they're going to give me a good 10 percent extra performance-wise. Of course elite sport is about finding one percent margins, so that 10 percent is obviously huge, and as a result I take the recommended doses of those supplements to the letter.”

INDULGENCES

“It's generally a case of when will I indulge, not if. I’m pretty good during camp now, but after the campaign I'll be having an Indian. It used to be lamb, but it'll probably be a prawn tikka masala now, with a peshwari naan, prawn poori, saag paneer, Bombay potatoes, a jug of mango lassi, and obviously onion bhaji, poppadoms. All the extra bits. We set a weight gain limit which I’ll do my best to stick to, but I will enjoy.”
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polecateddy wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 11:44
maverick23 wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 11:23
stevec@france wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 10:45

its coming from that gareth whatshisname - blue specs guy who talks on YT too much .
saying he spoke with the doc who confirmed this food excuse .

They should publish every report and finding so people can decide for themselves .
It’s not just Gareth. Matt Lawton did a piece about it in the Times. It’s an interesting read.

He also spoke to TalkSPORT about it. It gave me the impression that Lawton now actually believes that Benn didn’t intentionally take it.

I think probably the scientists at UKAD will be of a much higher calibre than the Mickey Mouse parade Conor Benn’s team have paid off. Presumably they’ll just debunk the eggs nonsense once and for all at some point. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a boxer come across as less popular than Conor Benn with the British Boxing Board of Control. I think it’s laughable that Hearn and Co would think a Benn British licence is going to happen ever again really.
What makes you think that re: UKAD? They’re not particularly well funded. They’ll need to be an independent 3rd party expert into clomiphene to properly assess Benn’s claims. They may be groundbreaking in that they could have proven something not seen before. May also be complete rubbish.

If the NADP find in Benn’s favour again then it’ll put the board in a tough spot. When he’s been cleared, what basis would they have for not allowing him fight in the U.K.? Dillian Whyte failed a UKAD test but is VADA tests around it were clear so he was let off.
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He's cleared to fight (*just not in the UK)
You can legally carry a loaded gun in your jacket (*just not in the UK)
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I wonder whose idea that was :shame:
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more obvious doping case than Benn’s.

You’ve got two positive tests a couple of months apart, you’ve got a sudden transformation, you’ve got a suspicious gym with other fighters been inactive & also having sudden transformations & we even know the name of his doping doctor. He was in his dressing room & plastered on his website.

How anyone can even contemplate that he’s clean is beyond me. You’d have to be delusional or related.

How Hearn can sit there & tell us he’s looked into his eyes & trusts him after he said the exact same about Dillian Whyte (and look how that turned out!) is also beyond me.
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Guys.
Look at the body development pre the mooted Chris jr fight! Ridiculous!

We’ll see if the same.

Can’t explain, “it’s just food!”

Strict Liability is the rule I’m afraid.

Conor saying “no it can’t be. It’s wrong”
I can’t eat a banana flavoured banana. Wtf!!?

Everyone else has to do it.

Listen to Highfield Boxing btw
He nails this
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Think the fact that Hearn has to rely so heavy on Benns return , hopefully suggests he's on his way down has a big time promoter , can't see Dazn putting up with him and his shite shows much longer , his stable is'nt excatly bursting with talent and ppv sellers is it
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Controversial wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 13:13
Kilburn wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 12:55 Isn’t he saying that his body is more prone to storing it, once consumed through food, rather than producing it himself naturally?
But it still goes back to the fact that clomiphene is not allowed in the UK for hens or chickens. Also he has given his diet prep in a long interview for GQ in April 2022 (a few months before the failed tests) and he doesn't mention eating eggs, the only mention of eggs is egg fried rice on some days. So how is it getting in his system to be storing it up in the first place?
I didn’t get chance to listen to the full interview but didn’t the journalist say that it relates to food consumed while over in the states?

I’m not trying to make a case for Benn but I’m certainly interested in what argument is being put forward, given he continues to appear so adamant.
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Kilburn wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 18:51
Controversial wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 13:13
Kilburn wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 12:55 Isn’t he saying that his body is more prone to storing it, once consumed through food, rather than producing it himself naturally?
But it still goes back to the fact that clomiphene is not allowed in the UK for hens or chickens. Also he has given his diet prep in a long interview for GQ in April 2022 (a few months before the failed tests) and he doesn't mention eating eggs, the only mention of eggs is egg fried rice on some days. So how is it getting in his system to be storing it up in the first place?
I didn’t get chance to listen to the full interview but didn’t the journalist say that it relates to food consumed while over in the states?

I’m not trying to make a case for Benn but I’m certainly interested in what argument is being put forward, given he continues to appear so adamant.
It presumably would have had to have happened twice as well whilst in the states on two separate occasions. I guess he has to say the states as it’s a slightly less restriction regulated food market, although whether there’s actually many farmers using Clomifene to increase egg production still seems like a credibility issue for the tale of woe.
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a force wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 16:40 I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more obvious doping case than Benn’s.

You’ve got two positive tests a couple of months apart, you’ve got a sudden transformation, you’ve got a suspicious gym with other fighters been inactive & also having sudden transformations & we even know the name of his doping doctor. He was in his dressing room & plastered on his website.

How anyone can even contemplate that he’s clean is beyond me. You’d have to be delusional or related.

How Hearn can sit there & tell us he’s looked into his eyes & trusts him after he said the exact same about Dillian Whyte (and look how that turned out!) is also beyond me.
Exactly! I also think that many pundits are intimidated by Nigel. "Conor is such a lovely lad."
Christ on a bike, he certainly hides it well.
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Kilburn wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 18:51
Controversial wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 13:13
Kilburn wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 12:55 Isn’t he saying that his body is more prone to storing it, once consumed through food, rather than producing it himself naturally?
But it still goes back to the fact that clomiphene is not allowed in the UK for hens or chickens. Also he has given his diet prep in a long interview for GQ in April 2022 (a few months before the failed tests) and he doesn't mention eating eggs, the only mention of eggs is egg fried rice on some days. So how is it getting in his system to be storing it up in the first place?
I didn’t get chance to listen to the full interview but didn’t the journalist say that it relates to food consumed while over in the states?

I’m not trying to make a case for Benn but I’m certainly interested in what argument is being put forward, given he continues to appear so adamant.
I don’t know, I haven’t heard that before, his initial argument was a flaw in the procedure and irregularities in the testing process. Plus he came out and said it was nothing to do with eggs. It seems odd the detailed diet he listed in interview a few months before he didn’t mention eating them but he goes to America and presumably eats enough that it becomes an issue twice. More telling is most PED experts don’t seem to believe him and they’ve probably heard every excuse under the sun. Maybe he does have a rare condition where his body stores it up but I think he’d have to eat a fair amount for that to happen.
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Rockytony67 wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 16:21

I wonder whose idea that was :shame:
Who better than a former opponent of Benn to call this fight?

Hearn obviously worried Algieri might mention what every commentator for this fight should, but probably won't be allowed to mention, drugs.
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Hope this 6ft 1 inch Mexican smokes Benn's boots.

Never stopped, high ko ratio and a much bigger guy. Perfect combo for a spanner in the works
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forcefraser wrote: 23 Sep 2023, 03:47 Hope this 6ft 1 inch Mexican smokes Benn's boots.

Never stopped, high ko ratio and a much bigger guy. Perfect combo for a spanner in the works
A lot of Mexicans with uninspiring records on paper can turn out to be a much bigger handful than anticipated as well, quite a few brits have learned the hard way let’s hope Connor is one of them
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D4v3 wrote: 23 Sep 2023, 04:11
forcefraser wrote: 23 Sep 2023, 03:47 Hope this 6ft 1 inch Mexican smokes Benn's boots.

Never stopped, high ko ratio and a much bigger guy. Perfect combo for a spanner in the works
A lot of Mexicans with uninspiring records on paper can turn out to be a much bigger handful than anticipated as well, quite a few brits have learned the hard way let’s hope Connor is one of them
Would love this to be true, but there's no way Matchroom have picked this guy if he's a genuine threat. Way too much invested at this stage. This is all about an opponent with an impressive record on paper in a bid to legitimise the Benn vs Eubank fight.
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Deserter wrote: 23 Sep 2023, 06:31 Would love this to be true, but there's no way Matchroom have picked this guy if he's a genuine threat. Way too much invested at this stage. This is all about an opponent with an impressive record on paper in a bid to legitimise the Benn vs Eubank fight.
100% true.

It really annoys me intensely the bullsh*t surrounding Benn will intensify from this weekend..

But, what really bolis my p*ss is the way Benn and his entourage are now claiming that Benn is a victim.

I never thought there would be a boxer who I could hate more than that **** David Haye… but all the circumstances surrounding Benn makes me hate everything about him. Hate is a strong word which I dont like using.

Benn is a ****
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I watched two of his fights. No defence at all. Two dodgy decisions for ko's. This will be over quickly.
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is anyone going to get up and watch this?
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Glass Joe wrote: 23 Sep 2023, 09:36 is anyone going to get up and watch this?
I'm in Paris for the Saffa v Ireland game tonight, so I'll kick on in the city afterwards, grab some local skirt and hope she'll watch it with me as I bum her from a plethora of brutal angles
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Hearn: "If Benn Wasn't Cleared To Box, Robert Smith Would’ve Told Commissions He’s Suspended"

“Robert Smith says he believes Conor Benn hasn’t cleared his name,” Hearn told IFL TV for a video posted to its YouTube channel. “What they should’ve asked him is, is Conor Benn cleared to box, because the answer is yes. And that’s the reason that he’s fighting this weekend. You know, [Smith] said that he’s spoken to the commissions. If he wasn’t cleared to box, Robert Smith would’ve said to the commissions, ‘No, he’s not cleared to box. He’s suspended.’ We know he’s not [suspended] because he won his case against the [BBBocC] and against UKAD.”

“Conor Benn has two choices, all right?,” Hearn said. “Having won the case in July and having won the case, and having his suspension lifted and having been cleared, he has the choice to fight or to wait for a potential appeal, which we know, through all the slow playing previously, could be kicked into next year. He hasn’t boxed for 18 months. What he’s spent in terms of scientific reports, in terms of legal costs, you know, the man needs to go back to work.”

“Conor has produced this scientific evidence in the past,” Hearn said. “It’s not like he’s never, he just kept it under his bed or something. But when that’s asked to be produced, he has produced it every time. If you go and read Matt Lawton’s piece in the The Times, you’ll see a very, very in-depth article about one of the reasons why we believe Conor Benn is innocent.

“So, it’s not like, ‘Oh, we’re not telling you.’ But when you go into a trial, like he did with UKAD, he’s done everything he was asked to do and he won. So, like, what Robert Smith, what they should’ve [asked] in that interview is, ‘Is he cleared to box?’ And under their rules, if you’re not suspended, if you’re not fined … you are cleared to box.”
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