most unusual looking "Knock-Outs"

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most unusual looking "Knock-Outs"

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what are some of them that you remember seeing ?
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Mike Spinks TKO3 Rufat Riskiev for the middleweight gold medal at the 1976 Olympics.

Confusion ensued when the referee ended matters. Riskiev was doubled over by a body shot or low blow, but not badly hurt. It wasn't clear if the referee was giving Riskiev time to recover, or if he was remanding the bout to the judges, or what.

Even after Spinks's hand was raised in victory, nobody quite knew if the ruling was a TKO or a technical win. Only the following day did I know the outcome for certain, from reading the newspapers. Apparently the fight-ending blow was a legitimate body punch.
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Great choice-I just watched it; the body shot wasn't even close to illegal.
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Was it Bruce Seldon who Mike Tyson knocked out with missed right hand? :maybe:
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Whatya think ?

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khaokor galaxy vs luisito espinonza, most delayed reaction ko ive seen, not even sure what shot caused it

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Seamus wrote: 26 Sep 2023, 23:28 Whatya think ?

Tyson's final right to the head did not connect. How strange. But upon watching it a second time, I noticed Tyson may have landed a right just seconds before the phantom KO shot. Maybe Young a went down in a delayed reaction?
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Vitali Klitschko's first round KO over Odlanier Solis comes to mind.
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I had an argument with another boxing fan at the time of the Tyson-Young fight. Guy said he wouldn't call it a dive, but rather a case of not wanting to get beat up too bad for his purse.
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Joson wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 05:25 Vitali Klitschko's first round KO over Odlanier Solis comes to mind.
Wasn't that a knee injury?
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Ezzard wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 10:02
Joson wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 05:25 Vitali Klitschko's first round KO over Odlanier Solis comes to mind.
Wasn't that a knee injury?
Solis got clipped in the temple, which either caused him to fall and reinjure his knee, or he missed a punch, twisted his knee and got hit as he was already falling. It's not clear which is the truth.

Training camp reports indicated Solis had a knee problem. If I recall correctly, the fight was postponed once for that reason. Who knows, maybe the promoters and cable TV titans pressured him into the fighting when his injury wasn't fully healed.
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Joson wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 10:15
Ezzard wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 10:02
Joson wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 05:25 Vitali Klitschko's first round KO over Odlanier Solis comes to mind.
Wasn't that a knee injury?
Solis got clipped in the temple, which either caused him to fall and reinjure his knee, or he missed a punch, twisted his knee and got hit as he was already falling. It's not clear which is the truth.

Training camp reports indicated Solis had a knee problem. If I recall correctly, the fight was postponed once for that reason. Who knows, maybe the promoters and cable TV titans pressured him into the fighting when his injury wasn't fully healed.
Solis should have been a top contender. Shame his career didn't work out.
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Tua-Moore always made me wonder. People point out that Tua was a big puncher and Moorer had a glass jaw. Nothing to see here.
However, watch the actual "fight". Moorer goes down like he was shot from a punch that at most just grazed him.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 11:50 Tua-Moore always made me wonder. People point out that Tua was a big puncher and Moorer had a glass jaw. Nothing to see here.
However, watch the actual "fight". Moorer goes down like he was shot from a punch that at most just grazed him.
I've seen it several times. It was a good right hand that caught him on the chin. It was legit.
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Emanuel Augustus clearly took a dive in this one

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That does looks like a dive.
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gilgamesh wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 13:26
Ambling Alp II wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 11:50 Tua-Moore always made me wonder. People point out that Tua was a big puncher and Moorer had a glass jaw. Nothing to see here.
However, watch the actual "fight". Moorer goes down like he was shot from a punch that at most just grazed him.
I've seen it several times. It was a good right hand that caught him on the chin. It was legit.
Wow. Can't believe he went down in heap just from that. We will have agree to disagree.
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wow
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 15:28
gilgamesh wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 13:26
Ambling Alp II wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 11:50 Tua-Moore always made me wonder. People point out that Tua was a big puncher and Moorer had a glass jaw. Nothing to see here.
However, watch the actual "fight". Moorer goes down like he was shot from a punch that at most just grazed him.
I've seen it several times. It was a good right hand that caught him on the chin. It was legit.
Wow. Can't believe he went down in heap just from that. We will have agree to disagree.
I also think it's legit. Don't overlook that Tua was a devastating puncher, and his right cross - which landed squarely on Moorer's jaw - was followed by a left-hook to the top of the head.

Those shots may have been strong enough to KO almost anyone.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 15:28
gilgamesh wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 13:26
Ambling Alp II wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 11:50 Tua-Moore always made me wonder. People point out that Tua was a big puncher and Moorer had a glass jaw. Nothing to see here.
However, watch the actual "fight". Moorer goes down like he was shot from a punch that at most just grazed him.
I've seen it several times. It was a good right hand that caught him on the chin. It was legit.
Wow. Can't believe he went down in heap just from that. We will have agree to disagree.
I just remember the thudding impact of the punch.

Since it's only 30 seconds of action I ran it back right quick, and yeah...the impact of the knockout blow is clear to me. Might not have laid out a lot of people the way it laid out Moorer, but Moorer wasn't exactly iron jawed.

You can hear the impact of the punch.

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One of the more historically significant, and unusual looking knockouts is Ali vs Liston 2.

Liston CLEARLY takes a dive there to me. Some people still debate that. I think the people that pretend it wasn't a dive feel like they're sh*tting on Ali by saying so, but I don't think so. I don't think Ali necessarily had anything to do with it, but I have no doubt whatsoever that the KO isn't legit.
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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Sep 2023, 01:17 One of the more historically significant, and unusual looking knockouts is Ali vs Liston 2.

Liston CLEARLY takes a dive there to me. Some people still debate that. I think the people that pretend it wasn't a dive feel like they're sh*tting on Ali by saying so, but I don't think so. I don't think Ali necessarily had anything to do with it, but I have no doubt whatsoever that the KO isn't legit.
Don't be silly, it was Ali's feared anchor punch.
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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Sep 2023, 01:14
Ambling Alp II wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 15:28
gilgamesh wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 13:26

I've seen it several times. It was a good right hand that caught him on the chin. It was legit.
Wow. Can't believe he went down in heap just from that. We will have agree to disagree.
I just remember the thudding impact of the punch.

Since it's only 30 seconds of action I ran it back right quick, and yeah...the impact of the knockout blow is clear to me. Might not have laid out a lot of people the way it laid out Moorer, but Moorer wasn't exactly iron jawed.

You can hear the impact of the punch.

Everything about this fight seems fishy. Some of the things by itself doesn't mean Moorer wasn't hurt that badly, but add it all together and it smells. Moorer does virtually nothing offensively. He twice moves to the ropes for no apparent reason. It was a right hand, which Tua was not known for. I watched and listened to this for the umpteenth time and don't see how that punch was that big of a deal. Even the way he goes down is strange. He starts to sink down and then suddenly falls backward.
Obviously, Moorer isn't known for having a good chin, but he has taken better shots than that before in numerous fights.

But OK, we obviously don't agree. Will let you have the last word if you want it.
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Always thought Walcott-Marciano II looked odd. Walcott did nothing offensively. He goes down, but looks like he could get up. He gets counted out. Then well after, the fight is over, he suddenly goes crazy and starts complaining about the count. It's almost as if he just remembered that he should be complaining.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 28 Sep 2023, 12:57 Always thought Walcott-Marciano II looked odd. Walcott did nothing offensively. He goes down, but looks like he could get up. He gets counted out. Then well after, the fight is over, he suddenly goes crazy and starts complaining about the count. It's almost as if he just remembered that he should be complaining.
Was John Ruiz vs Tua also fishy because Ruiz also did nothing offensively?

Sometimes a dude just f*cking turns your lights out dude. It's Boxing. Sometimes you ain't got time to get anything going.
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