Big Bang Zhang is the man to beat

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Zhang looked great against Joyce, but everybody ain't Joyce. Joyce is one of the slowest and easiest to hit guys with the credentials he has.

Everyone else Zhang would be fighting would be significantly quicker, and with the exception of maybe Wilder, most of 'em at the top would be more skilled than Joyce, and even WIlder is a good bit faster.
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It’s real strange how people have gone crazy for Zhang over the 2 Joyce fights. Seen several experts say he’s top 4 now.

I genuinely think Joyce was tailor made for him. Don’t get me wrong, Zhang did great he couldn’t miss Joyce and he had the power to hurt him.

People saying AJ would be scared of him. Bit much in my opinion.

I think AJ beats him. Same as Usyk and Fury whilst Zhang/Wilder could be a close one but I think Wilder would land first.
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Zhang is the real deal despite how awful Joyce was in both fights.

Does he bring potentially huge viewing figures to the table?
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Does anyone have any idea how big a star he is in china? One hell of a potential audience out there.
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I can see BrickTop looking to do something thing like Zhang v Parker early next year
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there's always the talk of getting massive figures from china, yet zhang has hardly fought there and has displayed no serious drawing power. nor have we seen the chinese throwing out money like the saudis
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margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 00:50 there's always the talk of getting massive figures from china, yet zhang has hardly fought there and has displayed no serious drawing power. nor have we seen the chinese throwing out money like the saudis
Eddie’s said they looked at it in the past and there wasn’t the interest. No doubt that if a big site fee for Zhang existed then Eddie would have been going for it.

Zhang hadn’t done a great deal to impress up until the Hrgovic fight and Joyce wins so perhaps things have changed a little.
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maverick23 wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 01:40
margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 00:50 there's always the talk of getting massive figures from china, yet zhang has hardly fought there and has displayed no serious drawing power. nor have we seen the chinese throwing out money like the saudis
Eddie’s said they looked at it in the past and there wasn’t the interest. No doubt that if a big site fee for Zhang existed then Eddie would have been going for it.

Zhang hadn’t done a great deal to impress up until the Hrgovic fight and Joyce wins so perhaps things have changed a little.
Don't really think boxing is that big in China , perhaps Frey would know better than us , regards Zang , well you would have to say he's up there in the current bad crop , at least higher than Joyce was , has to wether or not he would beat someone with more skills and speed , jurys got to be out , you could'nt place him too high based on a couple wins over slow plodding Joyce , , then again you could'nt discount him . Thing is in days gone by how high would Joe of been rated , probably not much more than british / european level level
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coneye wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 01:57
maverick23 wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 01:40
margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 00:50 there's always the talk of getting massive figures from china, yet zhang has hardly fought there and has displayed no serious drawing power. nor have we seen the chinese throwing out money like the saudis
Eddie’s said they looked at it in the past and there wasn’t the interest. No doubt that if a big site fee for Zhang existed then Eddie would have been going for it.

Zhang hadn’t done a great deal to impress up until the Hrgovic fight and Joyce wins so perhaps things have changed a little.
Don't really think boxing is that big in China , perhaps Frey would know better than us , regards Zang , well you would have to say he's up there in the current bad crop , at least higher than Joyce was , has to wether or not he would beat someone with more skills and speed , jurys got to be out , you could'nt place him too high based on a couple wins over slow plodding Joyce , , then again you could'nt discount him . Thing is in days gone by how high would Joe of been rated , probably not much more than british / european level level
Boxing isn't that big but the Chinese really get behind their own.
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I deal with China on a daily basis.

I’m on really good terms with a couple of my suppliers and they have never heard of Zhang. (Big footie fans though - Man United of course!).

That said, if the government got behind Zhang fighting at home they would all soon know about him - and it would become a massive event.
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Coco wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 03:12
coneye wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 01:57
maverick23 wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 01:40

Eddie’s said they looked at it in the past and there wasn’t the interest. No doubt that if a big site fee for Zhang existed then Eddie would have been going for it.

Zhang hadn’t done a great deal to impress up until the Hrgovic fight and Joyce wins so perhaps things have changed a little.
Don't really think boxing is that big in China , perhaps Frey would know better than us , regards Zang , well you would have to say he's up there in the current bad crop , at least higher than Joyce was , has to wether or not he would beat someone with more skills and speed , jurys got to be out , you could'nt place him too high based on a couple wins over slow plodding Joyce , , then again you could'nt discount him . Thing is in days gone by how high would Joe of been rated , probably not much more than british / european level level
Boxing isn't that big but the Chinese really get behind their own.
so where is this with zhang?
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Done right, Zhang will be a gold mine
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Let's get his ring entrance sorted first.

'Big bang Zhang!'
With a blonde glam rock wig, it would be awesome.

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I reckon Fury will fight Zhang, he will see all the pound signs if the fight is made in China, the numbers would be immense.
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He'd be a fool not to...but a fooly if he did.
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I remember the War*ens were claiming Vijender Singh was getting over 100 million views in India. I saw one of his fights there and it looked like they struggled to sell a ticket beyond the immediate family.
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Bit of trivea for you all Chinas top promoter is a fella called Lui Gang , he boxed for china in the olympics , came to Aust where he had a few ameteur fights , then turned pro , his opponent Lance Hobson , collapsed on the stool and died the next day , if i remember correctly it affected Lui and if he did box he never had many after that . He currently is has far as i know Chinas biggest boxing promoter
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Also for pronunciation the zh is like a J, so it's Jang, coincidentally rhymes with Bang!
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zangh never fought anyone until he got hergovic who was way below par and took his best shots .
He doesnt deserve a title shot based on beating a washed up worn out JJ .

Bricktop will put him in with Dubs before risking anything bigger .
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Zhang v Wilder - definitely up for that one.

Cannot see Fury wanting any of it, Usyk probably will, he doesn't seem scared of anybody.
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Imagine if Fury goes all the way to Beijing to avoid Usyk to take on Zhang......

Peking duck! :yay:
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Controversial wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 06:39 I reckon Fury will fight Zhang, he will see all the pound signs if the fight is made in China, the numbers would be immense.
Not sure I agree. It's a completely different situation from Saudi where they are awash with oil money and trying to create "Brand Saudi".

Can't see any logical reason why the Chinese government would bankroll a fight where their fighter is likely to lose.
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China is also heading for a bad recession.

It’s most likely show of strength to its population will be an invasion of Taiwan.
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TheLeprechaun wrote: 26 Sep 2023, 12:57
Steveh583 wrote: 26 Sep 2023, 12:43
tonyevs wrote: 26 Sep 2023, 08:22

Its an oft repeated statement said about Fury - but did he really possess such talent? and when did he demonstrate it?

Was it against an ancient Wlad who was at the very end of his very long career; Wilder who hadn`t proved anything himself; a shot to bits Whyte .. or Wallin who lots favouring to get KO`d by a former cruiserweight who has been in semi-retirement the last 4-5 years.
Is this really enough to provide the evidence that Fury did have the talent to be a standout??
that "ancient wlad" narrative is nonsense. he was looking as good as ever and no one looked close to beating him prior to fury

He'd been walloped by Sanders and others. Became a jab and grab merchant with Stewart and he wasn't exactly fighting a murderers row of fighters was he? The same version of Sanders would have had him out of there again.
"walloped by saunders" TWENTY SIX fights ago and on a TWENTY THREE fight winning streak (19 of those unified title fights). Not a murderers row? He'd cleaned out the entire division. Thats total revisionist history.
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Big Bang Zhang would have been lickin' his chops at that Fury performance.
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