amateur boxing records

[hello2007]

Is there a site that indicates past and current amateur fighters records?

[kevin]

I'm starting to put something together at http://www.britishamateurboxing.net will mainly be British but if I can I will add results and boxers from around the World.

Kev

[Horse]

Why doesn't Boxrec list amateur records?

[boxmel]

Why doesn't Boxrec list amateur records?

Not just Boxrec - it's an almost impossible task to keep track of 20,000+ amateur records. You would have to have a dedicated person or persons who have nothing better to do than keep track of every boxer, age 8 to 34, and be at every show in their areas. You would have to start from scratch by looking at all the passbooks, including the ones where the older boxers first started (if they still have them), keep track of weights as they change. I used to do it in Southern California many years ago - but I went to every show (2, if not 3 per week), every local tournament, and worked with the registration chair to give me results when I wasn't able to attend. Would be nice - but......

[Horse]

Not just Boxrec - it's an almost impossible task to keep track of 20,000+ amateur records. You would have to have a dedicated person or persons who have nothing better to do than keep track of every boxer, age 8 to 34, and be at every show in their areas. You would have to start from scratch by looking at all the passbooks, including the ones where the older boxers first started (if they still have them), keep track of weights as they change. I used to do it in Southern California many years ago - but I went to every show (2, if not 3 per week), every local tournament, and worked with the registration chair to give me results when I wasn't able to attend. Would be nice - but......

I don't think anyone would expect it to be comprehensive and completely accurate, but it would be nice to be able to see the amateur records of fighters.

And where would be a better place to have a database of amateur records than at Boxrec?

[boxmel]

I don't think anyone would expect it to be comprehensive and completely accurate, but it would be nice to be able to see the amateur records of fighters.

Then what would you expect it to be? Just a list of those boxers who had competed in national ranking events and international competitions? How far back would you go? Who has the time to look up every competition and where would you get the info (I do have records for the U.S. back to 1987)?

[Horse]

Then what would you expect it to be? Just a list of those boxers who had competed in national ranking events and international competitions?

Don't get me wrong, I would like it to be as comprehensive as possible. But, if the results of only the big tournaments are added to fighters amateur records then that is better than nothing, and that can be built on over time.

How far back would you go?

As far back a possible.

Who has the time to look up every competition and where would you get the info (I do have records for the U.S. back to 1987)?

I don't think anyone would expect immediate perfection, hopefully over time people would find the time to go over the old records, and year after year we would get a better and better database of amateur records.

[kevin]

Then what would you expect it to be? Just a list of those boxers who had competed in national ranking events and international competitions?

Don't get me wrong, I would like it to be as comprehensive as possible. But, if the results of only the big tournaments are added to fighters amateur records then that is better than nothing, and that can be built on over time.

How far back would you go?

As far back a possible.

Who has the time to look up every competition and where would you get the info (I do have records for the U.S. back to 1987)?

I don't think anyone would expect immediate perfection, hopefully over time people would find the time to go over the old records, and year after year we would get a better and better database of amateur records.

It's something we hope to do at britishamateurboxing.net we'll going to try and get international results on there as well. We know it will be a long job though.

[Horse]

Good luck with that one.

Thanks.

It's something we hope to do at britishamateurboxing.net we'll going to try and get international results on there as well. We know it will be a long job though.

Good luck with that one.

[boxmel]

Kevin - I think the U.S. has more registered amateur boxers than England? I know we have more than Canada - you job will be a lot easier.

[kevin]

I'm sure we do. I'm going to try and include results from world, europeans etc for non-British too.

[Sportssummary]

I started listing amateur boxer records online some three years ago (http://www.sportssummary.com) for boxers in Michigan and I promise you it is a very time-intensive project. I do all data entry myself - I'd like to think that if you want something done right, do it yourself but the truth at least in large part is because nobody much cares. Outside of the boxer himself, that is. There are not alot of volunteers to help.

I have results of more than 2,000 matches and at least some biographical information on appr. 1,300 amateurs during that time frame. Getting the fight results is tough enough but the biggest hurdle is the parents, coaches and boxers themselves. I was forced to remove the majority of the boxers profiles and records, many with photos, because the boxers and parents never bothered to sign a release allowing the information to be posted online.

In the states, online operators must comply with COPPA which is a federal law designed to protect children from online predators and requires permission before posting information that such creeps could use to track down children. For boxers 18 years and older, it is alot easier to post information.

I hope to resume my efforts once a program is written that makes it easier to update and upload the records and a campaign designed to get more releases signed.

I would welcome any information on past boxers from Michigan and information on national tournament champions, besides the last couple years avail on USAB's website.

Good luck also to anyone else who is trying the same thing.
http://www.sportssummary.com

[Athorn4941]

http://Boxing-Scoop.com

is looking for volunteers .



Also I am looking for people with photos of any of the amateur boxers that I have on that site. You do not have to be an editor to upload the pic. So if you have a photo of any of the boxers please help out.

Thanks,
Aaron

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

NO WAY to keep track of amateur record, forget about it. It is way too easy for a person to lose their book and get a new one... the only record I can say is certain from past days is Breland's 110-1 and thats only because if anyone else had beaten the boxer or his coach would have been screaminjg it as loud as they could. Believe me, when you hear about some kid who goes pro and he claims his record was 123-4, well, there are about 16 kids walking around assuming they are one of the "four."

[DCAmateurBoxing]

NO WAY to keep track of amateur record, forget about it. It is way too easy for a person to lose their book and get a new one... the only record I can say is certain from past days is Breland's 110-1 and thats only because if anyone else had beaten the boxer or his coach would have been screaminjg it as loud as they could. Believe me, when you hear about some kid who goes pro and he claims his record was 123-4, well, there are about 16 kids walking around assuming they are one of the "four."

Anyone, I really was under the apparently false understanding that all bouts from USA boxing-sanctioned events were recorded in Colorado. I thought it was mainly done to help legal reasons. So, you can't really prove one way or another, if a boxer is injured at a sanctioned event, whether he/she boxed or not? I thought USAB would want to have that info for liability issues.

BTW, my amateur record was 997-2.lol. :)

[boxmel]

Anyone, I really was under the apparently false understanding that all bouts from USA boxing-sanctioned events were recorded in Colorado. I thought it was mainly done to help legal reasons. So, you can't really prove one way or another, if a boxer is injured at a sanctioned event, whether he/she boxed or not? I thought USAB would want to have that info for liability issues.

USA Boxing does not keep track of each individual boxer's record. If a boxer is injured, the person in charge of the event (in competition or in training) submits either an "Incident Report" or a RSCH form to Colorado Springs so they are aware of any injuries and/or secondary sports insurance claims. Tournament administrators usually keep the actual tournament paperwork; local registration chairs might keep the results of shows. But the only true record is what is in each boxer's passbook.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

USABoxing apparently only keeps track of ABF sponosered national tourneys and international event. No way to accurately keep track of smokers in NYC, club shows in Detroit, state tournaments in California, etc

[1277681]

AINT NO WAY u guys were talkin about this 1 month before my birth

[Teamus]

I see amateur records on Boxrec however they are not accurate. Honestly, USA Boxing records aren't accurate either. My question is why post them at all if not a 100%?