Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase

[Ruthless-RKO]

He should have been arrested for wearing that KFC jacket

[Counter-puncher]

, Britains only tollerant to its homegrown law breakers

sure, i mean if they found a gun in the luggage of a british bloke, they'd just give him a slap on the wrist and wave him off, right?

especially, especially if he gave them a sob story (this british gun-trafficer) about how he does charity work for at-rish urban kids.

I'm learning a lot about the law on this thread

[Counter-puncher]

Britains only tollerant to its homegrown law breakers

which is exactly why we have the biggest prison population in the EU area, I am sure, makes perfect sense now you think about it

[golden_labrador]

, Britains only tollerant to its homegrown law breakers

sure, i mean if they found a gun in the luggage of a british bloke, they'd just give him a slap on the wrist and wave him off, right?

especially, especially if he gave them a sob story (this british gun-trafficer) about how he does charity work for at-rish urban kids.

I'm learning a lot about the law on this thread

They read The Scum and the Daily Mail for us in order to come on here and teach us about the law #grateful

[coneye]

Britains only tollerant to its homegrown law breakers

which is exactly why we have the biggest prison population in the EU area, I am sure, makes perfect sense now you think about it

Biggest prison population , would'nt have anything to do wiyh biggest law breakers would it ,

[coneye]

, Britains only tollerant to its homegrown law breakers

sure, i mean if they found a gun in the luggage of a british bloke, they'd just give him a slap on the wrist and wave him off, right?

especially, especially if he gave them a sob story (this british gun-trafficer) about how he does charity work for at-rish urban kids.

I'm learning a lot about the law on this thread

They read The Scum and the Daily Mail for us in order to come on here and teach us about the law #grateful

Don't read the Daily Mail or the sun or any other newspaper for that matter ,, definetly not trying to teach or educate you on anything , BUT i am basing my observation Britain is too leniant on home grown offenders purely by observastion and association ,,, both observing how familly members and distant family members who i would now call associates , have been treated by the law , put simply got a fooking slap on the wrists .

Ok not all a few have done jail time a couple real serious jail time , but ALL have been let off , let off , got suspended sentences and when finally got there cumupence , its been too little too late .

But your not alone AUST is just has bad , case on tv the other day young african refugee in court on charge number wait for it charge num 100 and he's never been convicted , all this at the ripe old age of 13 ,,

[Counter-puncher]

Britains only tollerant to its homegrown law breakers

which is exactly why we have the biggest prison population in the EU area, I am sure, makes perfect sense now you think about it

Biggest prison population , would'nt have anything to do wiyh biggest law breakers would it ,

no, it wouldn't.

Germany has around 67 people per 100,000 in jail

we have 143 per 100,000 in jail

would you say it is likely that there are more than twice as many criminals in Germany as there are in Britain?

no.

[Gran Hermano]

The British police are such politically correct pussies. American cops would have shot BoMac.

Would be hard to miss him!

I bet the other passengers were relieved to see him removed from the plane the fat bastard

[coneye]

which is exactly why we have the biggest prison population in the EU area, I am sure, makes perfect sense now you think about it

Biggest prison population , would'nt have anything to do wiyh biggest law breakers would it ,

no, it wouldn't.

Germany has around 67 people per 100,000 in jail

we have 143 per 100,000 in jail

would you say it is likely that there are more than twice as many criminals in Germany as there are in Britain?

no.

What the foook are you on about , 143 take away 67 , your figures not mine suggests there are 76 more people per 100000 in jail in Britain , look at your own figures , that would suggest crime is more likely in britain , and thats not even mentioning the ones who get slaps on the wrist

So i may put it to you that Britain has more home grown crims ,, now if you are refering and being a smart arse , because i said there more leniant on home grown than other places , well part of it was tongue in cheek ,

but when you go speak to people who have been robbed by kids such has my cousins little sack of shit , a kid who has been arrested and let of for burgarly when i say let off never recieved a custodial sentence just probation and fines . never sentenced to prison , until his 5th -6th offence when he actually stabbed someone , then come back and say there not leniant , Oh and he got two years little twat should of got at least 15 . Should be like the USA proper sentences

You think what they give out is adequet , fine personaly i would like to see a 3 strike your out for 20 years , violent crime minimum 10 years , violent crime with a weapon on any innocent victim life , murder hang them

[Gran Hermano]

wonder where he's been remanded to? anyone know?

Strangeways I believe

he's done a couple of weeks in Strangeways already?

that is a very strange 'slap on the wrist'.

clearly he is still yet to play the 'charity work with inner city youths' card, it's a mystery why he hasn't used it yet as it's virtually a get out of jail free card in this country, even for serious firearms offences

can only assume he has been badly advised

I think you must have posted this sentence about 8 times on this thread you boring prick

[Counter-puncher]

germany has 67 people per 100,000 in prison

britain has 141 per 100,000

that means we have more imprisoned per head of population than they do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... ation_rate

Germany * 67 (prisoners per 100,000)

England and Wales England and Wales 143 (prisoners per 100,000)

put another way Germany has a total of 57000 prisoners in a population of 85,000,000 which I think is 0.067%

England and Wales has total of 86,000 in a population of 60,000,000 which makes 1.4%- more than twice as much

which part of that doesn't indicate that we have more prisoners?

they have a bigger population

we have more prisoners in total (86000 more prisoners on a population 25,000,000 fewer) never mind by proportion of population.

[Counter-puncher]

Strangeways I believe

he's done a couple of weeks in Strangeways already?

that is a very strange 'slap on the wrist'.

clearly he is still yet to play the 'charity work with inner city youths' card, it's a mystery why he hasn't used it yet as it's virtually a get out of jail free card in this country, even for serious firearms offences

can only assume he has been badly advised

I think you must have posted this sentence about 8 times on this thread you boring prick

if i offer you the excuse that I have been busy doing charity work with at risk kids, will you let me off with a slap on the wrists?

[Counter-puncher]

that would suggest crime is more likely in britain

ok lets go back to the start

you said we are tolerant to homegrown criminals

i suggested the prison figures here would tend to dispute that

so tolerant that we lock up more than twice as many people as Germany do

what kind of 'tolerance' is twice as intolerant as Germany? is Germany only half as criminal as Britain?

or is Britain maybe not that tolerant at all?

tolerant countries like Denmark have very low incarceration rates

Britain is not an especially tolerant country for criminals, which is reflected in the fact that we lock up more than pretty much anyone else in the old EU, and by a pretty long way

do you think there is more than twice as much crime in britain as in Germany?

[coneye]

that would suggest crime is more likely in britain

ok lets go back to the start

you said we are tolerant to homegrown criminals

i suggested the prison figures here would tend to dispute that

so tolerant that we lock up more than twice as many people as Germany do

what kind of 'tolerance' is twice as intolerant as Germany? is Germany only half as criminal as Britain?

or is Britain maybe not that tolerant at all?

tolerant countries like Denmark have very low incarceration rates

Britain is not an especially tolerant country for criminals, which is reflected in the fact that we lock up more than pretty much anyone else in the old EU, and by a pretty long way

do you think there is more than twice as much crime in britain as in Germany?

Ok i,ll answer this and then i,m gonna watch a movie , Yes i do think there is more crime especielly petty crime in britain and your own figures back that up i also think its because theres a culture of lack of respect , which is largly due to the little twats getting away with too much too often , have i figures to back it up No but i do come from a council estate where petty crrime especilly was rife , my familly are still there and i base most of what i say looking , observing and earlier in the peice living among them . I,ve got lots of familly makinly couusins kids now who are locked up and the common denominator with them all is the amount of times they were let of with probation and suspended sentences for stuff they should of been doing time for , but heh if you are gappy with sentencing and the courts thats ok by me , it does,nt affecgt me one iota
Excuse the bad spelling on my tablet and my fingers are too big , keep stuffing up Lol

[Nightmare Roy]

He's currently in HMP Birmingham.

Fact that he's not out on bail suggests this ones being took seriously , not being looked at as its Ok just some fat yank who's stupid and does'nt know the law , does'nt know that if he has a liscence for a gun it only counts for the state he lives in not worldwide with any gun ,, Think there may be some jail time coming up send a message , Britains only tollerant to its homegrown law breakers

If it was me born in England caught with a gun I'd probably get more jail time than BoMac, when it comes to firearms we are about as strictest it gets. Look at that scrote who opened fire in the pub killing an innocent woman, 46 years minimum he'll likely die in prison as will the scrote who shot dead the young girl basically accidentally minimum 43 years.

[Stevieaber]

Shoot someone dead in a pre-organised gangland hit and you’ll always get a heavy, heavy sentence. For a basic possession without a licence charge it’ll be lot less.
Pat Barrett got 3 years for being caught with a loaded pistol. Not sure if there’s been any sentencing changes since this

[Frostieballs]

Unlike many others on this thread, I sadly cannot claim to be a highly qualified lawyer, so please forgive the basic nature of this question……

Wouldn’t the sentence be the same regardless of your nationality? Don’t the rules of the country where the crime took place have to be applied?

I get that enforcing a sentence may be tricky when it comes to non-nationals (extradition/deals etc) but he surely can’t just go ‘I’m American, I didn’t realise and do a lot of charity,’ and be treated more leniently?

[coneye]

Shoot someone dead in a pre-organised gangland hit and you’ll always get a heavy, heavy sentence. For a basic possession without a licence charge it’ll be lot less.
Pat Barrett got 3 years for being caught with a loaded pistol. Not sure if there’s been any sentencing changes since this

Thats what i'm saying just above , don't think he's going to get off lightly on this one , being a celebrity yank off sorts , i don't think will help him , course i'm guessing , but i can't see it , we all will not know until he actually gets sentenced , but being stupid is only going to get him so far in defence , how far who knows . .

regards Pat Barret , well there is a difference , Pat was a well known figure around collyhurst Harpureh area and don't think for one minuite , when after the courts have closed and the prosecuter and his assistant are having drinks with there Peers including the judge that there not filling each other in on excatly the sort of role model Pat Barrett was to the local kids on monsall estate . Was 3 years a long or a short time , after all Manchester was well known for guns and crime , cheetham hill , collyhurst, Monsall , north manchester area are not blue chip areas , so was a local celebrity let of lightly or given a harsh sentence , your guess .

For me the big difference here is , he's a thick yank , who obviously thinks gun control is just like in the states , its obvious to even thick people that this guy has not relized the seriousness of what he's done , well he will now , whats not obvious is how much of him being a thick yank will be took into account


But has everyone keeps pointing out were not lawyers we can only guess

[Glass Joe]

Week today I think he's in court. Wonder if he's been training anyone in the gym its got to be a bonus for the inmates when you hear a world class trainer is in there,

[SeanBrennan]

Shoot someone dead in a pre-organised gangland hit and you’ll always get a heavy, heavy sentence. For a basic possession without a licence charge it’ll be lot less.
Pat Barrett got 3 years for being caught with a loaded pistol. Not sure if there’s been any sentencing changes since this

Thats what i'm saying just above , don't think he's going to get off lightly on this one , being a celebrity yank off sorts , i don't think will help him , course i'm guessing , but i can't see it , we all will not know until he actually gets sentenced , but being stupid is only going to get him so far in defence , how far who knows . .

regards Pat Barret , well there is a difference , Pat was a well known figure around collyhurst Harpureh area and don't think for one minuite , when after the courts have closed and the prosecuter and his assistant are having drinks with there Peers including the judge that there not filling each other in on excatly the sort of role model Pat Barrett was to the local kids on monsall estate . Was 3 years a long or a short time , after all Manchester was well known for guns and crime , cheetham hill , collyhurst, Monsall , north manchester area are not blue chip areas , so was a local celebrity let of lightly or given a harsh sentence , your guess .

For me the big difference here is , he's a thick yank , who obviously thinks gun control is just like in the states , its obvious to even thick people that this guy has not relized the seriousness of what he's done , well he will now , whats not obvious is how much of him being a thick yank will be took into account


But has everyone keeps pointing out were not lawyers we can only guess

if the prosecutor was having drinks with the judge you'd expect him to mention Pat was a very heavy gangster with the Hillybillies and had a body-count outside of the ring. Uncle Pat he is not. Was selling massive amounts of heroin. He got off lightly for the pain he caused.

Too many trainers/corner people are lauded as good people when they're major criminals involved in drugs past or present - Barrett, Kayes (ESPECIALLY Kayes), Sims, Tibbs, Bowers, Fury. Jon Pegg is a rarity in having a brain and not being a scumbag.

[coneye]

Shoot someone dead in a pre-organised gangland hit and you’ll always get a heavy, heavy sentence. For a basic possession without a licence charge it’ll be lot less.
Pat Barrett got 3 years for being caught with a loaded pistol. Not sure if there’s been any sentencing changes since this

Thats what i'm saying just above , don't think he's going to get off lightly on this one , being a celebrity yank off sorts , i don't think will help him , course i'm guessing , but i can't see it , we all will not know until he actually gets sentenced , but being stupid is only going to get him so far in defence , how far who knows . .

regards Pat Barret , well there is a difference , Pat was a well known figure around collyhurst Harpureh area and don't think for one minuite , when after the courts have closed and the prosecuter and his assistant are having drinks with there Peers including the judge that there not filling each other in on excatly the sort of role model Pat Barrett was to the local kids on monsall estate . Was 3 years a long or a short time , after all Manchester was well known for guns and crime , cheetham hill , collyhurst, Monsall , north manchester area are not blue chip areas , so was a local celebrity let of lightly or given a harsh sentence , your guess .


For me the big difference here is , he's a thick yank , who obviously thinks gun control is just like in the states , its obvious to even thick people that this guy has not relized the seriousness of what he's done , well he will now , whats not obvious is how much of him being a thick yank will be took into account


But has everyone keeps pointing out were not lawyers we can only guess

if the prosecutor was having drinks with the judge you'd expect him to mention Pat was a very heavy gangster with the Hillybillies and had a body-count outside of the ring. Uncle Pat he is not. Was selling massive amounts of heroin. He got off lightly for the pain he caused.

Too many trainers/corner people are lauded as good people when they're major criminals involved in drugs past or present - Barrett, Kayes (ESPECIALLY Kayes), Sims, Tibbs, Bowers, Fury. Jon Pegg is a rarity in having a brain and not being a scumbag.

Hence my comment Barret was / is a well known figure ,, 3 years long or short , depends who your talking too and your mode of thinking , not really comparable to a thick yank , who thinks he's dirty Harry

[margaret thatcher]

bo mac could start quite the hustle indeed, a few rounds on the pads (his hands are basically pads anyway) for some cookies and crisps

[coneye]

bo mac could start quite the hustle indeed, a few rounds on the pads (his hands are basically pads anyway) for some cookies and crisps

Hows it all going , is there a court date with charges been set , i only see whats on here , i really do have to start watching the news , maybee buy a newspaper or two , if it does'nt get covered on boxrec ,, it goes right past me

[jonp]

Shoot someone dead in a pre-organised gangland hit and you’ll always get a heavy, heavy sentence. For a basic possession without a licence charge it’ll be lot less.
Pat Barrett got 3 years for being caught with a loaded pistol. Not sure if there’s been any sentencing changes since this

Thats what i'm saying just above , don't think he's going to get off lightly on this one , being a celebrity yank off sorts , i don't think will help him , course i'm guessing , but i can't see it , we all will not know until he actually gets sentenced , but being stupid is only going to get him so far in defence , how far who knows . .

regards Pat Barret , well there is a difference , Pat was a well known figure around collyhurst Harpureh area and don't think for one minuite , when after the courts have closed and the prosecuter and his assistant are having drinks with there Peers including the judge that there not filling each other in on excatly the sort of role model Pat Barrett was to the local kids on monsall estate . Was 3 years a long or a short time , after all Manchester was well known for guns and crime , cheetham hill , collyhurst, Monsall , north manchester area are not blue chip areas , so was a local celebrity let of lightly or given a harsh sentence , your guess .

For me the big difference here is , he's a thick yank , who obviously thinks gun control is just like in the states , its obvious to even thick people that this guy has not relized the seriousness of what he's done , well he will now , whats not obvious is how much of him being a thick yank will be took into account


But has everyone keeps pointing out were not lawyers we can only guess

if the prosecutor was having drinks with the judge you'd expect him to mention Pat was a very heavy gangster with the Hillybillies and had a body-count outside of the ring. Uncle Pat he is not. Was selling massive amounts of heroin. He got off lightly for the pain he caused.

Too many trainers/corner people are lauded as good people when they're major criminals involved in drugs past or present - Barrett, Kayes (ESPECIALLY Kayes), Sims, Tibbs, Bowers, Fury. Jon Pegg is a rarity in having a brain and not being a scumbag.

I like Sean Brennan who ever he is lol

[quickeyg]

Been following a geezer on twitter who claims BoMac is heading home October 11th.



Hope he's right.