Gilberto Ramirez vs. Joe Smith | DAZN - October 7, 2023

[margaret thatcher]

good fight - zurdo is obviously a lot more skilled but he can be very lazy in there. joe on the other hand works hard as hell and has been a consistent upsetter.

i just hope smith is mentally okay following the bert loss and murder of his bro, because his style requires mental and physical toughness to make it work. without that it will be easy for zurdo.

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Jahyae Brown Looks To Impress on Gilberto Ramirez vs. Joe Smith Card

New York and New Jersey may be next to each other on the map, but unless you’re making the quick jump from Staten Island to Elizabeth, the distance can be daunting, especially for junior middleweight prospect Jahyae Brown.

A proud native of Schenectady, which is a good three hours from the Big Apple, Brown is now in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, working with coach Chino Rivas for the first time, approximately four hours away from his girlfriend and two children.

And though longtime coach Sam Bunch remains part of the squad, going to the Garden State and getting work in with Rivas’ stable, which includes Tevin Farmer, is the price that needs to be paid to make it to where he wants to go in the boxing world.

“This is my dream, and this is how I'm going to do this, not only for me, but for them, too. So I have to make a lot of sacrifices,” said Brown, who faces Victor Toney this Saturday on the Gilberto Ramirez-Joe Smith Jr. card in Las Vegas.

It’s the 24-year-old’s first bout since the only loss of his pro career, a 10-round majority decision defeat to Guido Emmanuel Schramm in April, and he’s looking forward to erasing the memory of that fight, armed with lessons he picked up both in and out of the ring.

“It was just a learning experience,” said Brown. “It was my first time going 10 rounds and it was a two-week notice fight. I felt like me being a top prospect, an undefeated fighter, I should have never even taken that fight on two weeks’ notice. I should have done a whole training camp and I should have said no to that fight because I'm still young, so I didn't have to rush and I didn't have to take that fight. But a boxer is always going to want to fight.”

That’s where a fighter’s team is supposed to step in and be the voice of reason sometimes, but with Brown sporting a 13-0 pro record and the fight being televised as a ShoBox co-main event, he was willing to roll the dice against an opponent he felt he could beat in the 15-1-1 Schramm. But after Brown had a strong start, the Argentinean battler surged down the stretch to lock up the win. It still stings Brown, owner of an 80-4 amateur record, but he did show flashes of his talent in his lone defeat, as well as the heart to gut out a ten-round fight on an empty gas tank.

“I went 10 rounds, I can go 10 rounds and I'm a warrior,” he said. “I got the dog in me.”

That’s about as far as Brown will go when it comes to self-praise. Everything else is about everyone else. His lady, his kids, his family, his community. That’s refreshing in the “me, me, me” generation, and despite having negative noise around him while growing up, he stayed on the straight and narrow, something he credits his parents with.

“I got two amazing parents who have been married for 33 years,” he said. “I feel like a lot of people don't think about that positivity. They always say, ‘I'm from the ghetto.’ I’m from the ghetto and I was in that environment, but I had great parents in one household who raised me good, and I’m someone who’s 24 years old, doing something positive, fighting on TV, staying out of trouble. The other kids from upstate New York, from Schenectady or anywhere else, they’re like hey, I want to be just like him. I want to stay focused; I don't want to go to the streets, I want to go to school. I want to fight or do sports. I want to do something positive. If he can do it, I can do it.”

That’s a lot of pressure to have on your shoulders, but Brown seems well-equipped to take on that weight, even if it’s a road he will largely travel alone in order to reach as many people as possible. So in a game where being unselfish doesn’t always work out for a fighter, he refuses to be selfish.

“That's just not my mindset,” he said. “I want to see everybody win; I want to see my friends win. I’ve seen so much growing up, so many people not reaching the age of 18, so I just want to do better for my community and give back to my community so everybody can be good; provide better jobs, provide everything for as many people as I could.”

It’s a lofty goal, but one Brown is determined to reach in emphatic fashion. That means a lot of work, a lot of winning, and a little bit of the luck every fighter needs. And in his Las Vegas debut, Brown plans on hitting his first proverbial jackpot.

“I don't overlook anybody,” he said. “I train super hard and I'm just looking to put on a beautiful performance and show my new style that me and my coach Chino put together. I got way better and you’re gonna see a sharper Jahyae. Hey, it might just be a knockout.”

[jwfg]

I'm leaning towards Blue Collar Joe by KO. Zurdo has a higher workrate but lacks head movement and come straight ahead/no angles. Meanwhile Common Man is a very basic fighter but he has absolute dynamite in his straight right (he rocked Beterbiev before being destroyed). With Ramirez come-forward, high output style I think Joe will have the opportunity to land that big right.

Has Zurdo been down before?

[Fightdoctor]

I do not believe Zurdo has been dropped before but he has never faced anyone with the one punch power of Smith. Just ask Bernard Hopkins.

[JackSprocket]

Zurdo isn't 50 years old though. Anyhow, I'm picking Smith. Ramirez' only real opponent was Bivol and he looked hopeless in there. I'm not saying Smith is Bivol but I just don't think Zurdo has what it takes to do this...

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Ramirez came in at a career-high 191.6 pounds for their 12-round cruiserweight fight.

Smith stepped on the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s scale at 191.8 pounds.

[adislav123]

the 193 lbs weigh in limit makes no sense.

so the both will weigh in at their former light heavy in ring weight.

rehydration isn't restricted, is it? so both will pack on a couple of pounds after the weigh in and will enter the ring at 200/205.

so why bother with the 193 bullshit?

was it smith's or zurdo's team that's didn't want the other fighter to bulk up to the full cruiserweight limit, 200 plus rehydration.?

seems rather insignificant as an actual weight issue.

[Evander]

Can be hard to call when both boxers have been out of the ring for this long.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Its 10 rounds now

I think ramirez outclasses joe

[Evander]

Beterbiev lit him up.

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Fight Night!!

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Scrappy is no longer on the card

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Date: Saturday October 7, 2023
Location: The Chelsea, The Chelsea Tower - Las Vegas, NV
TV/Stream: DAZN

Start Times
Youtube: 5 pm ET | 2 pm PT | 10 pm BST (Preliminary Card)
DAZN: 8 pm ET | 5 pm PT | 1 am BST (Main Card)

Promoted by: Golden Boy Promotions

Main Card

10 Round WBA Cruiserweight Title Eliminator Bout
Gilberto Zurdo Ramirez vs. Joe Smith Jr.

WBA Intercontinental Super Middleweight Championship
Bektemir Melikuziev vs. Alantez Fox

8 Round Light Heavyweight Bout
Darius Fulghum vs. Alan Campa

8 Round Super Welterweight Bout
Eric Tudor vs. Jose Luis Sanchez

Undercard

8 Round Cruiserweight Bout
Tristan Kalkreuth vs. Aaron Casper

4 Round Super Lightweight Bout
Daniel Luna vs. Erick Garcia Benitez

8 Round Super Welterweight Bout
Jahyae Brown vs. Victor Toney

[stevec@france]

Hard to predict as both been out a while plus moving up to a new weight but last time I saw ramierez fight he was poor and i think joe can see he needs to Bivol him if he can.

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Who’s watching?

[skanksta]

Who’s watching?

Me.

[skanksta]

Anyone scoring..?
Will Sanchez get robbed...

[skanksta]

Bek the Bully is a great watch and a very apt name.

He fights like Dudley Dursley !

[Alguiffer]

Nice win for Victor Toney - have been following him since his first bout. Looking forward to reading the RxR comments for Ramirez - Smith.

[skanksta]

It's all Zurdo pretty much as you'd expect.

JSJ brings a war, but he's just not as good and a little smaller.
4-1 Z

[skanksta]

Zurdo beating him up and JSJ fights back so hard when he looks like being stopped that Zurdo backs off.

7-1 Z

[JxhDel.]

JS Jr not giving up an inch, but Zurdo has flown on his feet tonight, without the weight cut constraint.

Melikuziev/Fox was hella fun, Tudor got beaten up.

[skanksta]

Joe fights back hard to maybe get a draw going in to the 10th, but Zurdo won that fairly easily.
7-3 Zurdo.

Great fight, both years and weight past their best, but great action.


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