Randy Turpin's death

[goose 5]

Anyone here read John Plimmer's book about Turpin in which he challenges the suicide narrative ?

[Controversial]

Anyone here read John Plimmer's book about Turpin in which he challenges the suicide narrative ?

No, what does he think happened then, that presumably someone killed him?

[goose 5]

I just found out about this book-the author is a former police detective and writes that the suicide theory is "inconceivable".

[goose 5]

Murder, yes, is his conclusion.

[Caractacus]

Did he have anything to look forward too, the day before he died ?

[Bodyshot3]

I have not read the book, so can't really comment on the findings.

But there's certainly the suggestion that Turpin became increasingly aware of what he had actually earnt and began asking the wrong kind of questions directed at the wrong kind of people about where the bulk of his wealth had gone.

But it has always been intertwinned with his very poor financial-business decisions which might also account for his suicide rather than the mob silencing him.

Randy was in deep trouble with the Tax Man and a notorious free-spender on his mates bad business deals.

I spent a couple of years living around Leamington-Warwick and Turpin and his boxing family were much-loved, their achievements were particularly special because it was not a fighting area. Coventry and Birmingham were.

[Caractacus]

Randy Turpin seems to have died around the same time as Freddie Mills in 1965.( which was also a "questionable" demise)
did either one of any associateion with the Kray Bros. ?

[rob h]

I think I read that his young daughter was also shot?

And it was particularly suspicious as Turpin had two gunshot wounds to the head, with it being written that the first one was more of a graze. I've since read an updated version of events which states that one shot was to the chest and the other to the head.

Turpin is also lauded still in North Wales where he spent quite a bit of time.

[Caractacus]

At Tiger Bay ?

[Controversial]

Randy Turpin seems to have died around the same time as Freddie Mills in 1965.( which was also a "questionable" demise)
did either one of any associateion with the Kray Bros. ?

I saw an interesting documentary on Mills, I think the whole storyline about him has been exaggerated. Some bloke also wrote a book claiming Mills was a serial killer. Mills was displaying signs of odd behaviour, depression and anger after being involved in 101 pro fights and hundreds of booth fights. From what I remember the documentary basically suggested he had brain trauma (CTE) and committed suicide. Miles Templeton was interviewed on the documentary and posts on here so could probably add more.

[Jaguar]

At Tiger Bay ?

Tiger Bay is Cardiff, South Wales.

[Caractacus]

Anyone here ever been to Leamington ?
Is the Transport Cafe still there on Russell Street ?

[Bodyshot3]

Anyone here ever been to Leamington ?
Is the Transport Cafe still there on Russell Street ?

Please bother to read the thread dude

I lived in Leam for two years.

The Cafe was not there but the Turpin family were well-known and liked, although they had an equal attachment to nearby Warwick which today is almost connected with Leam.

[Caractacus]

I meant did anyone else live there, particularly back in the 1960's.
If so, How has the neighbourhood changed since then ?

[nobleart1978]

Randy was asking Mr S for his money from fights that he had not recieved his full share from.

A lot of Turpin's money was held back by his promoter and his manager.

I have always believed that Randy was murdered. He loved his young daughter and would never have hurt her. Anyway, how can you shoot yourself in the heart and then in the head ?

[goose 5]

The head shots were first-one was described as a grazing shot. His wife didn't hear any of the five total shots .His daughter's survival was incredible; she spent less than 3 weeks in the hospital.

[goose 5]

Turpin's biographer-Jack Birtley- claimed to have been threatened if he didn't revise parts of the bio before publication to remove the names of the people who Turpin said stole his money. Birtley did in fact exclude the names before the book came out.