Fury vs Ngannou

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Do you think Ngannou is playing possum and will be sharper on fight night than he looks in these videos?


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jameswilson wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 12:17 I'm amazed someone like Frank Sanchez isn't champing at the bit to get a mando spot with someone. Beat that Efe Agjaba guy in 2021 which was prospect v prospect but has fought cans since then rather than go for a final eliminator.
Because there are so few young contenders, nobody wants to take a risk, they either get a title shot they aren't ready for, or tread water, learning nothing,

The heavyweight division is in worse shape now, than it was when Tyson came along.
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Re: Fury vs Ngannou

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big lennox wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 14:58 Do you think Ngannou is playing possum and will be sharper on fight night than he looks in these videos?


I'd not read too much into padwork anyway.
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this guy has never boxed, maybe this is just how he looks?
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big lennox wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 14:58 Do you think Ngannou is playing possum and will be sharper on fight night than he looks in these videos?


Possible cos he looks so bad. But surely he knows this isn’t a real contest, basically an exhibition. It would sell more if Ngannou looked good. As it is he has no chance. None
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Good job this isn’t actually a fight.

Even the dodgy sanctioning body’s might struggle to licence this guy.

This is basically WWE.
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funso banjo baby wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 05:49 This may have been asked a 100 times but, why is the entire bill not on boxrec?



:o
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funso banjo baby wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 07:01
funso banjo baby wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 05:49 This may have been asked a 100 times but, why is the entire bill not on boxrec?



:o
They're all unsanctioned and presumably without permission of the BBBofC. Fury fights in England without a BBBofC licence (I'll let you guess why) and David Adeleye does. Because the WBC title isn't at stake, there is no need to have silly little things like drug testing.

It's interesting that there have been a few unsanctioned shows in history, which still make BoxRec. Like Foreman-Grimsley, which has the IBA and WBU titles at stake.

Wardley-Adeleye is an interesting one, where presumably the British title will not be at stake. That fight isn't an exhibition, but is unsanctioned, so let's see if that one finds its way onto BoxRec. I doubt it,
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jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:11
funso banjo baby wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 07:01
funso banjo baby wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 05:49 This may have been asked a 100 times but, why is the entire bill not on boxrec?



:o
They're all unsanctioned and presumably without permission of the BBBofC. Fury fights in England without a BBBofC licence (I'll let you guess why) and David Adeleye does. Because the WBC title isn't at stake, there is no need to have silly little things like drug testing.

It's interesting that there have been a few unsanctioned shows in history, which still make BoxRec. Like Foreman-Grimsley, which has the IBA and WBU titles at stake.

Wardley-Adeleye is an interesting one, where presumably the British title will not be at stake. That fight isn't an exhibition, but is unsanctioned, so let's see if that one finds its way onto BoxRec. I doubt it,
Are you implying that Fury is using ped's to beat this guy? Now I am not keen on this fight, but to come out with stuff like that is mental and just silly
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They’re clearly not putting these clips out to impress anyone. Ngannou should look considerably better on the night.

If not, he surely has to have some kind of underlying health condition.
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Alba wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:21
jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:11
funso banjo baby wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 07:01


:o
They're all unsanctioned and presumably without permission of the BBBofC. Fury fights in England without a BBBofC licence (I'll let you guess why) and David Adeleye does. Because the WBC title isn't at stake, there is no need to have silly little things like drug testing.

It's interesting that there have been a few unsanctioned shows in history, which still make BoxRec. Like Foreman-Grimsley, which has the IBA and WBU titles at stake.

Wardley-Adeleye is an interesting one, where presumably the British title will not be at stake. That fight isn't an exhibition, but is unsanctioned, so let's see if that one finds its way onto BoxRec. I doubt it,
Are you implying that Fury is using ped's to beat this guy? Now I am not keen on this fight, but to come out with stuff like that is mental and just silly
Fury failed two tests in the past, one of which didn't come to light for more than a year. He also doesn't have a BBBofC licence and won't be making a defence of his title until at least a year since his last fight. Make of that, what you will.
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big lennox wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 14:58 Do you think Ngannou is playing possum and will be sharper on fight night than he looks in these videos?


No. I’ve watched him the UFC he can’t box, with 4oz gloves on he can swing from the hip so looks faster than he does here.

But he’s just a big, slow lump. He’s going to be a heavy bag in there.
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Frostieballs wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 03:37 Good job this isn’t actually a fight.

Even the dodgy sanctioning body’s might struggle to licence this guy.

This is basically WWE.
It’s probably scripted. Fury will be stringing him along for a few rounds. At some point he’ll take a shot or 2 and try to make it look like he’s been bothered. Then he ends it somewhere in the agreed time.

It’s an exhibition and we’ve already seen this nonsense with Mayweather and McGregor. I guess enough time has passed for them to pull of the exact same con again.

It’s shameless really.
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Monzon83 wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 09:53
Frostieballs wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 03:37 Good job this isn’t actually a fight.

Even the dodgy sanctioning body’s might struggle to licence this guy.

This is basically WWE.
It’s probably scripted. Fury will be stringing him along for a few rounds. At some point he’ll take a shot or 2 and try to make it look like he’s been bothered. Then he ends it somewhere in the agreed time.

It’s an exhibition and we’ve already seen this nonsense with Mayweather and McGregor. I guess enough time has passed for them to pull of the exact same con again.

It’s shameless really.

Agreed. The problem is that the fans are mugs.
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TheLeprechaun wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 10:23
Monzon83 wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 09:53
Frostieballs wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 03:37 Good job this isn’t actually a fight.

Even the dodgy sanctioning body’s might struggle to licence this guy.

This is basically WWE.
It’s probably scripted. Fury will be stringing him along for a few rounds. At some point he’ll take a shot or 2 and try to make it look like he’s been bothered. Then he ends it somewhere in the agreed time.

It’s an exhibition and we’ve already seen this nonsense with Mayweather and McGregor. I guess enough time has passed for them to pull of the exact same con again.

It’s shameless really.

Agreed. The problem is that the fans are mugs.
The people I know who are buying the 'fight' are all UFC fans, who occasionally watch boxing. When I asked one of them why, he said, 'because it's entertainment'. WWE is fake as hell, but it's entertaining, so maybe they're right. I won't be watching to find out.
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jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 09:35
Alba wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:21
jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:11

They're all unsanctioned and presumably without permission of the BBBofC. Fury fights in England without a BBBofC licence (I'll let you guess why) and David Adeleye does. Because the WBC title isn't at stake, there is no need to have silly little things like drug testing.

It's interesting that there have been a few unsanctioned shows in history, which still make BoxRec. Like Foreman-Grimsley, which has the IBA and WBU titles at stake.

Wardley-Adeleye is an interesting one, where presumably the British title will not be at stake. That fight isn't an exhibition, but is unsanctioned, so let's see if that one finds its way onto BoxRec. I doubt it,
Are you implying that Fury is using ped's to beat this guy? Now I am not keen on this fight, but to come out with stuff like that is mental and just silly
Fury failed two tests in the past, one of which didn't come to light for more than a year. He also doesn't have a BBBofC licence and won't be making a defence of his title until at least a year since his last fight. Make of that, what you will.
Is Fury licensed by any board? Like a Luxembourg license or something?
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JamesPhilips wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 12:26
jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 09:35
Alba wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:21

Are you implying that Fury is using ped's to beat this guy? Now I am not keen on this fight, but to come out with stuff like that is mental and just silly
Fury failed two tests in the past, one of which didn't come to light for more than a year. He also doesn't have a BBBofC licence and won't be making a defence of his title until at least a year since his last fight. Make of that, what you will.
Is Fury licensed by any board? Like a Luxembourg license or something?
He is licenced by Nevada.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 15:00
jameswilson wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 12:17 I'm amazed someone like Frank Sanchez isn't champing at the bit to get a mando spot with someone. Beat that Efe Agjaba guy in 2021 which was prospect v prospect but has fought cans since then rather than go for a final eliminator.
Because there are so few young contenders, nobody wants to take a risk, they either get a title shot they aren't ready for, or tread water, learning nothing,

The heavyweight division is in worse shape now, than it was when Tyson came along.
is it fornicate. short memory.
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Looks like Ronaldo thinks it's going to be pretty shit as well.
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Ronaldo actually reposted a tweet by Turki Allashikh (The Boss) several weeks ago (Fight poster included)


Lets see what Neymar has to say in the next few weeks :TU:
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Fwank's The Boss Dev, and don't you dare say otherwise! Now go get that kettle on! :salut:
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Stormy Daniels will be advertising it next.
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The Gratest wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 15:11 Sasha Grey will be advertising it next.
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Steveh583 wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 14:35
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 15:00
jameswilson wrote: 03 Oct 2023, 12:17 I'm amazed someone like Frank Sanchez isn't champing at the bit to get a mando spot with someone. Beat that Efe Agjaba guy in 2021 which was prospect v prospect but has fought cans since then rather than go for a final eliminator.
It really is. Look at the ratings.
Because there are so few young contenders, nobody wants to take a risk, they either get a title shot they aren't ready for, or tread water, learning nothing,

The heavyweight division is in worse shape now, than it was when Tyson came along.
is it fornicate. short memory.
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