sandis wrote: ↑21 Jul 2023, 09:50
Why Dmitry Aulov is rated that high?
He had the only DQ win against a boxer who knocked out a pro debut in his pro debut
I will look into that ...
- The DQ against Matselenko is same value as a KO.
- Matselenko's debut was against Ardashev in his pro debut.
- BUT Ardashev later defeated Mustafin - and so is rated higher now - and Matselenko and Aulov are also rated higher in consequence ...
As a test I dropped Ardashev's win against Mustafin. As a consequence Ardashev dropped from #22 to #40 and Aulov dropped from #9 to #26.
Manrae wrote: ↑18 Aug 2023, 01:41
Was there another change in the algorithm? I've noticed some big changes...
Due to the COVID-19 problems with organizing events the half-life of the ratings cap was extented then from 18 months to 36 months. Meanwhile the inactivity time, which was extented also then, was again reduced to the old value of 12 months. Now today the ratings cap time was reduced to the old value of 18 months too.
Manrae wrote: ↑18 Aug 2023, 01:41
Was there another change in the algorithm? I've noticed some big changes...
Due to the COVID-19 problems with organizing events the half-life of the ratings cap was extented then from 18 months to 36 months. Meanwhile the inactivity time, which was extented also then, was again reduced to the old value of 12 months. Now today the ratings cap time was reduced to the old value of 18 months too.
darwinjonas wrote: ↑21 Aug 2023, 11:59
Beterbiev rating #26 p4p.... I just laugh. When Beterbiev had the IBF & WBC (without WBO) and they put Callum Smith #1 in LHW. I laugh even more....
BoxRec does not go with emotions - it goes with figures. Beterbiev never defeated an opponent near to the quality Bivol did with Alvarez and Ramirez. An even if he would defeat Liam Smith now - that would not reach to Bivol's win against Alvarez,
darwinjonas wrote: ↑21 Aug 2023, 11:59
Beterbiev rating #26 p4p.... I just laugh. When Beterbiev had the IBF & WBC (without WBO) and they put Callum Smith #1 in LHW. I laugh even more....
BoxRec does not go with emotions - it goes with figures. Beterbiev never defeated an opponent near to the quality Bivol did with Alvarez and Ramirez. An even if he would defeat Liam Smith now - that would not reach to Bivol's win against Alvarez,
Govzdyk was better than Bivol. Govzdyk was #9 p4p by ESPN after he beat and KO Adonis Stevenson and Beterbiev annihilated Govzdyk . Zurdo has 0 skill. He fought only against low ranking boxer like #100-#400 who no body know. The little Canelo don't fight against high ratio KO boxer except if he is old and over the hill like GGG and washed like Kovalev. Beterbiev gave a better lesson of Boxing in less than 2 rounds than Bivol in 12 rounds against Joe Smith Jr. You told '' BoxRec does not go with emotions '' and you mentioned Liam Smith instead Callum Smith. When Callum Smith jump at 175 he was #1 LHW and he beat nobody even at 168 he beat nobody.... I discovered Boxrec is a UK site and they overrate their UK boxers....
SportsRatings wrote: ↑21 Jul 2023, 10:12
How is Teofimo Lopez "inactive" and not ranked at Super Light ?
He just won 1.5 months ago, and he beat the #2 guy ?
He declared his retirement ...
I don't think declarations should be figured into these things at all. Guys say all kinds of things. It should just strictly be like if they've fought in x amount of months, they are active, and if they haven't, they are inactive.
When did Joshua pass Fury in the heavyweight rankings? I swear I checked after the Helenius fight and saw that he was #2, and that was just a few days ago.
SportsRatings wrote: ↑21 Jul 2023, 10:12
How is Teofimo Lopez "inactive" and not ranked at Super Light ?
He just won 1.5 months ago, and he beat the #2 guy ?
He declared his retirement ...
I don't think declarations should be figured into these things at all. Guys say all kinds of things. It should just strictly be like if they've fought in x amount of months, they are active, and if they haven't, they are inactive.
This is not decided by the ratings algorithm, but by the editors.
squiggy wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 13:11
When did Joshua pass Fury in the heavyweight rankings? I swear I checked after the Helenius fight and saw that he was #2, and that was just a few days ago.
There was a change in the ratings algorithm on 2023-08-18 - after the Joshua fight. See notice here: viewtopic.php?t=249171&start=362
Whoa, it seems very questionable for Joshua to pass Fury... even from an objective standpoint. I can see no other legitimate outcome than to either have Fury 1 / Usyk 2, or vice-versa...
I understand the reason why..... I always felt that the 18 month period was a bit harsh... Have something similar at my site and it has always been at 36 months.
BoxRec has a big place in the boxing landscape.. but still can't expect promoters and boxers to abide by minimum opposition standards, which seems to suggest leniency being the only fair option -- just my two cents.
The latest Elite Amateur National titles were held in perth.
Please refer to results and rannkings are way out in most divisions.
There are novices ranked above Champions.
And the new champions not ranked or recognised.
Thankyou.
623745 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023, 08:12
The latest Elite Amateur National titles were held in perth.
Please refer to results and rannkings are way out in most divisions.
There are novices ranked above Champions.
And the new champions not ranked or recognised.
Thankyou.
What boxers are you talking about? Boxrec ID numbers, please.