To Wouter: Fix Harry Wills' height

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scorpio83
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To Wouter: Fix Harry Wills' height

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Hello Wouter,

If you look at the poster of the tale of the tape between heavyweight contenders Harry Wills vs. Luis Angel Firpo in a no-decision fight in 1924, it showed that Wills stood 6'2" and boxrec listed him too. However, I look at the fight itself where they stood posing before their fight, it was the other way around that Wills stood taller than the 6'2 1/2" Firpo which is the only evidence that backup my claim that Wills is 6'3 or 6'3 1/2". Here is the photo of them standing next to each other as Wills is taller than Firpo.

https://www.gettyimages.ie/detail/news- ... /614384992

When you see it, please change Harry Wills height from 6'2" (188 cm) to 6'3" (191 cm) or 6'3 1/2" (192 cm).
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I understand your point if Firpo's height were set in stone.
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Most sources including Cyber Boxing Zone list Harry Wills stood 6'3" (191 cm) and even the book I have stated the same about Wills' height at 6'3" as well. Wouter, could you please fix Harry Wills' height like I said it before since you understand my point.
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According to the September 14, 1923 edition of the Spokane Chronicle: After being weighed, Firpo stepped over to be measured and his height was recorded as 6' 2" 2 inches taller than his opponent(Dempsey).
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goose 5 wrote: 25 Feb 2024, 14:08 According to the September 14, 1923 edition of the Spokane Chronicle: After being weighed, Firpo stepped over to be measured and his height was recorded as 6' 2" 2 inches taller than his opponent(Dempsey).
Yes, but actually Firpo stood 6'2 1/2 as he was 1 and a half inches taller than Dempsey and their tale of the tape was accurate. However, the tale of the tape between Firpo and Harry Wills, it was the other way around as Wills was taller than Firpo as he stood 6'3" where they stood still before their fight and the tale of the tape of their fight was misleading. According to the books called "Kings of the Ring: The History of Heavyweight Boxing" and "The World Colored Heavyweight Championship, 1876-1937" as both authors stated that Wills stood 6'3" which was his actual height.
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so they actually measured firpo at 6'2 but that was wrong? if he was an inch and a half taller than dempsey, then maybe dempsey wasn't actually quite as tall as 6'1

you seem kinda all over the place in these threads with what you accept as a legit source of height, although it at least does appear that wills was slightly taller than firpo in that pic
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Dempsey was measured as 6 feet even-barefoot-at the Firpo weigh-in. He was measured as 6'2" while wearing shoes with half inch soles at the physical for the Willard bout. At the start of his training camp for the Willard bout, he was measured as 6'1.5" wearing the same shoes.
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ya so 6'2 firpo, 6'0 dempsey seem the best bets. actually being measured barefoot is the most accurate you can get. if the difference was really 1.5 inch as scorp says, prob be 6'2 vs 6'0.5

wills does look a bit taller than firpo, 6'3 is possible
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Thank you Margaret for noticing the misleading height of Harry Wills from the tale of the tape fight with Luis Firpo and we all know that Wills was slightly taller than Firpo at 6'3", which was the real height of Wills. I'm glad that I'm not the only one that we saw the misleading height of Harry Wills. I'm saying this because to quote from Sam Beckett from the original Quantum Leap, "Putting right what once went wrong." I'm saying this because I want Wouter to put the right that once went wrong with Wills' height was to correct his height and 6'3" was Wills' actual height.
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Sorry Wouter and I know that you are busy with other subjects, but I'm asking you to fix Harry Wills' height from 6'2" (188 cm), which wasn't his real height to his actual height at 6'3" (191 cm) and the one evidence I'm showing you was the pre-fight standing pose with Wills was slightly taller than Firpo as their newspaper tale of the tape on Wills' height is wrong as they might ignore the standing still pose between Wills and Firpo as I show the picture if you see it. I think you and your colleagues on this website should add that photo I paste it to Harry Wills' photo gallery.

I am asking you this because I want to put the right what once went wrong as I am quoting Sam Beckett from the original Quantum Leap series. Please fix Harry Wills' height from 6'2" (188 cm) to 6'3" (191 cm) because if any boxing fans find out about the picture that Harry Wills was slightly taller than Firpo by 1 or half an inch. Sorry if I bother you and I'm saying this once and for all that Wills' height is 6'3", which was his actual height. Other boxing fans like me would say the same thing when they saw the pre-fight standing still pose photo between Wills and Firpo.
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I'm just not sold on you using Firpo's height as a yardstick. You might as well do it the other way around and claim Firpo is shorter than listed here. In general, there has always been a tendency to promote heavyweights as being taller than they were rather than being shorter.
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We know that Wills was big in his time, but Wouter despite the fact that Harry Wills listed at 6'2" (188 cm) on this website, I would never let go of Wills' height and I'm not sold that Wills stood at that height. I'm only sold that Harry Wills was actually stood 6'3" (191 cm) and I wish there was more evidence that Wills stood 6'3" next to Fred Fulton, who stood 6'4 1/2 or 6'5" and Jack Sharkey who stood 6 feet when each of their fights were standing before the fight itself. To me and other boxing fans, Harry Wills actually stood 6'3" (191 cm), which is his possible height.
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We know that Wills was big in his time, but Wouter despite the fact that Harry Wills listed at 6'2" (188 cm) on this website, I would never let go of Wills' height and I'm not sold that Wills stood at that height. I'm only sold that Harry Wills was actually stood 6'3" (191 cm) and I wish there was more evidence that Wills stood 6'3" next to Fred Fulton, who stood 6'4 1/2 or 6'5" and Jack Sharkey who stood 6 feet when each of their fights were standing before the fight itself. To me and other boxing fans, Harry Wills actually stood 6'3" (191 cm), which is his possible height out of the sake of the argument.
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