2001-03-02 German Guartos vs Mahyar Monshipour I Result?

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2001-03-02 German Guartos vs Mahyar Monshipour I Result?

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I just saw the first fight between the two:
2001-03-02 German Guartos D6 Mahyar Monshipour I

It was announced as points decision for Guartos after the fight.
Was decision reversed or corrected later? Just curious, since You guys have it as draw - and Monshipour stormed out of the ring after decision was announced.

I caught 58:58 and 58:57 cards, third was either 57:56 or 57:57 (Didn't hear exaclty).
Guartos was announced as winner as You can see in the pictures.
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Do you have a link to the video? I think it may have been a case where the announcer made a mistake.
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wouter wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 08:18 Do you have a link to the video? I think it may have been a case where the announcer made a mistake.
Yes, of course:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI0rnxicBmo

I think it would be useful to add a note in wiki page of the fight for the people who might see the fight in the future and - just like myself - wonder about why the result announced and boxrec page result differ.
I thought maybe someone knew exact circumstances of how it all developed.
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2001-04-16 Osamu Sato UD12 Yong In Jo (Super Bantamweight)
* Sato was down in round 5.

Referee: Ukrid Sarasas
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Scorecards:
Ukrid Sarasas (Referee scored the fight apparently): 117:112
Ken Morita: 117:112
X (Didn't catch final name in full, it was either Han or Chan - and was Korean, but don't want to make guesses): 116:114

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2001-04-21 Genaro Garcia SD12 Ivan Alvarez (Super Bantamweight)
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Judges:
Peter Trematerra: 114:113 Alvarez
Stuart Winston: 117:110 Garcia
Ric Margolius: 114:113 Garcia

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It was defence of WBC FECARBOX Super Bantam (Not Bantamweight, like You guys have it) belt for Alvarez.
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2001-02-18 Carlos Contreras TD7 Enrique Sanchez

Referee: Jerry McKenzie
https://boxrec.com/en/referee/401539

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Agapito Sanchez is listed as a southpaw. Not sure why, I only ever saw him fight out of orthodox stance.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/7296
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2002-03-16 Emmanuel Lucero UD12 Frankie Archuleta

Referee: Gary Rosato
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Judges:
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Bernard Bruni: 117:108
Lynne Carter: 116:110
Jack Castellani: 115:111
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Thanks for updating all the info I put in here.

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Now, two more "traces" for the original question in the topic.

I'm watching the rematch between the two and I noticed that French TV (Canal+) gave an undefeated 17-0 record for Guertos in the introductions:
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Monshipour's record was given as 21-2-2, so here it's in agreement with boxrec.
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I also found some Italian site which has a result of first Guartos fight as a win for the Spaniard:
http://www.sportenote.com/vedi_dettagli.asp?id=19666
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2003-12-06 Manabu Fukushima D10 Yokthai Sithoar I

Referee: Kazuo Abe
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Judges:
Ikko Yamada: 97:96 Sithoar
Takeshi Shimakawa: 96:96
Yuji Fukuchi: 96:96
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2004-02-05 Jun Toriumi vs Sornpichai Kratingdaenggym

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Mastrangelos wrote: 15 Sep 2023, 08:45 Thanks for updating all the info I put in here.

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Now, two more "traces" for the original question in the topic.

I'm watching the rematch between the two and I noticed that French TV (Canal+) gave an undefeated 17-0 record for Guertos in the introductions:
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Monshipour's record was given as 21-2-2, so here it's in agreement with boxrec.
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I also found some Italian site which has a result of first Guartos fight as a win for the Spaniard:
http://www.sportenote.com/vedi_dettagli.asp?id=19666
The commentators of the 2nd bout refer to the first match as being a draw which does not match the 17-0 record for Guartos. All in all, it's very confusing.
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wouter wrote: 30 Sep 2023, 09:40 The commentators of the 2nd bout refer to the first match as being a draw which does not match the 17-0 record for Guartos. All in all, it's very confusing.
Most likely You were right when You suggested that it was just announcer's mistake, but I'm curious about it. I should probably find some Monshipour fans who followed his career as it was unfolding and might remember it.

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2004-10-30 Shigeru Nakazato vs Shoji Kimura
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2006-02-04 Mikihito Seto – Akifumi Shimoda

Referee:Toshio Sugiyama

Judges:
Akihiko Katsuragi: 96:94 Seto
Ikko Yamada: 95:94 Seto
Suehiro Tsuchiya: 95:95 Draw

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2009-12-18 Charles Adamu vs Carl Dilks
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2003-03-21 Demetrius Hopkins vs Andre Eason
Referee: Eddie Cotton
https://boxrec.com/en/referee/400911

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2000-01-09 Mauricio Pastrana UD10 Ablorh Sowah (Bantamweight)

Referee: Elmo Adolph
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Judges:
David Taranto: 96:95
Keith Hughes: 97:95
Raymond White: 96:93
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZidj3WQJRs

If the video title is correct, this fight is:
2000-08-19 Saen Sor Ploenchit vs Marat Mazimbayev

It's listed as 8 rounder on boxrec, but it was a 10 rounder.
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2000-10-15 Jorge Lacierva UD12 Sergio Perez

Referee: Anthony Bryant
https://boxrec.com/en/referee/403887?offset=100
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Judges:
Kevin Barth: 115:110

Chris Young: 114:110
https://boxrec.com/en/judge/410316

Ken Whitehead: 114:110
https://boxrec.com/en/judge/410315

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I didn't find Kevin Barth in boxrec's database. There's Richard Barth from Tennessee - not sure if that's the same person and there's some confusion with names.
https://boxrec.com/en/judge/599882
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Ricardo Vargas is wrongly classified as a southpaw:
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/6830
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2001-03-12 Fabien Guillerme SD12 Luigi Castiglione

Judges:
Esa Lehtosaari: 116:114 Guillerme
Kurt Stroer: 115:114 Guillerme
Mickey Vann: 116:113 Castiglione

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2002-02-08 Ricardo Vargas UD10 Jhonny Gonzalez I

Referee: Raul Caiz Sr. (You have Marty Denkin listed)
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One more thing is Ricardo Vargas's weight:
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Varga's weight on boxrec is listed as 120,5 lbs. TV broadcasters listed it at 118 and commentators talked throughout the fight about Gonzalez's team making Vargas drop weight after initially coming in overweight. He first took his clothes off and then had to come back again to make weight, according to Al Bernstein and James "Smitty" Smith.
Not sure who's right, but thought I'll put it in there.
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2002-07-12 Rafael Marquez vs Jorge Otero

Small mistake in description:
"Otero down in the 1st rd and does not answer the bell for round six"

Otero was down in round 2, not 1.
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2002-10-18 Oscar Andrade vs Heriberto Ruiz
Referee: David Avalos
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2003-02-21 Genaro Garcia SD12 Mauricio Martinez (Bantamweight)

You guys have it as Unanimous decision, but it was announced as Split/Dividida after the fight:
Judges:
Howard Reichbach: 117:111 Garcia
Mike Ross: 116:112 Garcia
Frank Skilbred: 113:115 Martinez

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2003-03-23 Ricardo Vargas TD11 Gerson Guerrero

Referee: Raul Caiz Sr.
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Judges:
Chuck Giampa: 109:100
James Jen Kin: 109:100
Jose Cobian: 109:100

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