REGARDING RUNNING
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Bard of Boxrec
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REGARDING RUNNING
can someone tell me what a recommended distance for amateur boxers to run would be? Also, does it matter if you run slow times, does this have a huge effect on success?
There really is no recommended distance. It's all about pacing yourself.
Running is for cardio and legs the two most important things (besides mentality) to have paced. I currently run 2 miles a day ( i just started)
but my opponent that i will face in Feb at the Texas Golden Gloves rns 8-10
So i have alot of work. newayz run as you can breathe and pace yourself
just my opinon
Running is for cardio and legs the two most important things (besides mentality) to have paced. I currently run 2 miles a day ( i just started)
but my opponent that i will face in Feb at the Texas Golden Gloves rns 8-10
So i have alot of work. newayz run as you can breathe and pace yourself
just my opinon
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Thanks rondiggy.
this is very disspiriting. I physically can't run very far, i run every three days for about a kilometre each time, and that's tough for me. If it's all about pacing and you have a defensive style that means you don't waste many punches, does it matter that I can't run longer distances? After all it's only three rounds of three minutes, and when i shadow boxed for this period i could do it easy (although obviously it'll be a lot harder in the ring).
this is very disspiriting. I physically can't run very far, i run every three days for about a kilometre each time, and that's tough for me. If it's all about pacing and you have a defensive style that means you don't waste many punches, does it matter that I can't run longer distances? After all it's only three rounds of three minutes, and when i shadow boxed for this period i could do it easy (although obviously it'll be a lot harder in the ring).
No prob,
3 -3 min rounds isn't that much but you want to be able to exceed that cause like you said it is much harder in the ring. Every time you run just push yourself a little harder to go the extra distance and before ya know it you'll be running 2 kilo. 5 -6 days a week. Keep up the good work and push yourself little by little cause running is very important :you want to be able to run long distances.
3 -3 min rounds isn't that much but you want to be able to exceed that cause like you said it is much harder in the ring. Every time you run just push yourself a little harder to go the extra distance and before ya know it you'll be running 2 kilo. 5 -6 days a week. Keep up the good work and push yourself little by little cause running is very important :you want to be able to run long distances.
I dont really pace myself at all. ive been told not too because in a boxing match you dont go at one pace for the whole fight and you have breaks between rounds. i start off very slow and pick up my pace untill im almost sprinting. then i slow down and repeat the process for 5 or 6 miles. also, always sprint at the end of the run. ive been boxing for 2 1/2 years though so id start off at about a mile and a half.
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Dutch Windmill
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I do two types of roadwork:
Twice a week Endurance training, just one tempo for approx. an hour.
Twice a week interval training, 2 1/2 min fast, 50 seconds of rest. And that in two blocks of 5 reps.
I think it depends on your style, i'm skilled nor powerful but I have a very good conditioning and i can throw 100 punches in a 2 minute-round without exhausting myself. i'm always trying to stay on the outside and circle around, which takes much energy.
I guess if you have a more straightforward style, it would take less goodstamina.
It isn't possible to fight a good fight without road work. You can outpunch yourself in 1 round, no doubt. Besides, it makes you stand stronger.
An half hour twice a week is the absolute minimum in my opinion
Twice a week Endurance training, just one tempo for approx. an hour.
Twice a week interval training, 2 1/2 min fast, 50 seconds of rest. And that in two blocks of 5 reps.
I think it depends on your style, i'm skilled nor powerful but I have a very good conditioning and i can throw 100 punches in a 2 minute-round without exhausting myself. i'm always trying to stay on the outside and circle around, which takes much energy.
I guess if you have a more straightforward style, it would take less goodstamina.
It isn't possible to fight a good fight without road work. You can outpunch yourself in 1 round, no doubt. Besides, it makes you stand stronger.
An half hour twice a week is the absolute minimum in my opinion
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SugarRoyRobinson
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I think running is a great form of conditioning, but even the largest amount of running cannot get you fit enough for boxing.
Just look at footballers. They're fit but not NEARLY as fit as boxers HAVE TO BE.
I always do BLITZING on the bag, punching as hard and as fast as you can for 30 seconds, take a break for 10 seconds and do it repeatedly.
Like running, it's a great form of both physical and mental conditioning.
Just look at footballers. They're fit but not NEARLY as fit as boxers HAVE TO BE.
I always do BLITZING on the bag, punching as hard and as fast as you can for 30 seconds, take a break for 10 seconds and do it repeatedly.
Like running, it's a great form of both physical and mental conditioning.
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Dutch Windmill
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You should do the 10 times 10 seconds with 5 seconds rest, and 5 series of that.SugarRoyRobinson wrote: I always do BLITZING on the bag, punching as hard and as fast as you can for 30 seconds, take a break for 10 seconds and do it repeatedly.
Like running, it's a great form of both physical and mental conditioning.
Now that's fun.............when you're on the couch after training
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Thanks for the info guys.
I changed my route the other day and ended up running at least twice as far. I ran 7 times round my local park, it took 16 minutes, and i covered at least 2 miles, which isn't too bad for a beginner. Plus, if I get in the ring it won't be for another six months at least.
Flex, that routine sounds totally crippling. i don't know if i could do it now. i'll work on it through.
Dutch, do you really run for a whole hour? How many miles is that? About 8? Is it on the flat, on a field, on the road, or what? cos my initial run was very short, only about 1 kilometre, but the first half was all downhill and the second half all uphill. As soon as I changed my route i could run much further.
I'm about 6'1' with a 73 inch reach but only weigh 140 lb, sort of like diego corrales, as overhand once said of himself. This makes for a predictable gameplan of keeping the fight at long range. I always presume my opponent would be about 5'8 and would have to do more work to land his punches on me, as I would make the most of my reach advantage. Does this mean that if i sit back and paw with the jab I won't have to do as much roadwork, as i'd be doing less in the ring? i'm not looking for shortcuts, just concerned that i may not be able to run huge distances in one go. if my opponent pressed the fight he'd have to do a lot more than me to get inside my quick jab, and so it'd be more likely that he gets tired first.
I changed my route the other day and ended up running at least twice as far. I ran 7 times round my local park, it took 16 minutes, and i covered at least 2 miles, which isn't too bad for a beginner. Plus, if I get in the ring it won't be for another six months at least.
Flex, that routine sounds totally crippling. i don't know if i could do it now. i'll work on it through.
Dutch, do you really run for a whole hour? How many miles is that? About 8? Is it on the flat, on a field, on the road, or what? cos my initial run was very short, only about 1 kilometre, but the first half was all downhill and the second half all uphill. As soon as I changed my route i could run much further.
I'm about 6'1' with a 73 inch reach but only weigh 140 lb, sort of like diego corrales, as overhand once said of himself. This makes for a predictable gameplan of keeping the fight at long range. I always presume my opponent would be about 5'8 and would have to do more work to land his punches on me, as I would make the most of my reach advantage. Does this mean that if i sit back and paw with the jab I won't have to do as much roadwork, as i'd be doing less in the ring? i'm not looking for shortcuts, just concerned that i may not be able to run huge distances in one go. if my opponent pressed the fight he'd have to do a lot more than me to get inside my quick jab, and so it'd be more likely that he gets tired first.
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Dutch Windmill
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He Riddick Corrales, it's like 14km=14:1.560=8,97 mile. Thinking about changing my regimen though, i will move closer to my work next month, which would allow me to run for half an hour every day.Riddick Blowe wrote: Dutch, do you really run for a whole hour? How many miles is that? About 8? Is it on the flat, on a field, on the road, or what? cos my initial run was very short, only about 1 kilometre, but the first half was all downhill and the second half all uphill. As soon as I changed my route i could run much further.
I'm curious what will work better an half hour every day, or 4 times a week a longer training.
1 kilometre is a bit short...
You first have to get "basic condition", you will improve enormously in the first 6 months, doesn't really matter what you do, as long as you get tired...
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I changed my route again, and ran for 19 minutes. That's the longest i've done without stopping so far, but it was at a slow pace. i suppose some routes are harder than others so mileage isn't necessarily the best measure of training.
Do you think my twenty minutes every two days will be enough for when I start amateur boxing? (If i do) you said half hour twice a week as a bare minimum, but did you mean for active boxers?
does running help your volume of punches that much? i mean running is all very well but when you're in the ring you're not actually running, just kinda circling around and ducking and weaving and stuff. Wouldn't what sugarroyhead said about blitzing the bag work better?
Do you think my twenty minutes every two days will be enough for when I start amateur boxing? (If i do) you said half hour twice a week as a bare minimum, but did you mean for active boxers?
does running help your volume of punches that much? i mean running is all very well but when you're in the ring you're not actually running, just kinda circling around and ducking and weaving and stuff. Wouldn't what sugarroyhead said about blitzing the bag work better?
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Dutch Windmill
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The difference between boxing an running is that boxing has an higher intensity. You don't do the running to run, but to gain stamina. Running gives you better endurance, stronger legs, and more energy overall.
What sugarroy meant is that if you want to increase your specifically short-interval stamina(if you know what i mean, like 10 sec. full speed, like throwing a few combo's and then recover), you better do his training.
But you first have to get a good "base condition".
No offense Riddick, but if you can't run for 20 minutes continously, you will be exhausted after a couple of rounds in training, let alone a fight.
I think you should increase just a bit in the length and not in the frequency of the training. I just make do long roadwork 'cause i kind of enjoy it. I usually go with a friend of mine, he's more in the pub than at home, every kilometre we run he says less!
Anyway, i hope i made my point clear, if not, just mention it.
All the luck in your boxing career, and keep us updated....
What sugarroy meant is that if you want to increase your specifically short-interval stamina(if you know what i mean, like 10 sec. full speed, like throwing a few combo's and then recover), you better do his training.
But you first have to get a good "base condition".
No offense Riddick, but if you can't run for 20 minutes continously, you will be exhausted after a couple of rounds in training, let alone a fight.
I think you should increase just a bit in the length and not in the frequency of the training. I just make do long roadwork 'cause i kind of enjoy it. I usually go with a friend of mine, he's more in the pub than at home, every kilometre we run he says less!
Anyway, i hope i made my point clear, if not, just mention it.
All the luck in your boxing career, and keep us updated....
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Well i've just got back from my run, and my stopwatch says 27 minutes! Whoohoo! I'm improving. And i could have done more too. That felt good.
Dutch, do you find that you get tired after about 10 minutes, but get through it to get a second wind, and then after another ten minutes you get tired again, but pull through it again?
Dutch, do you find that you get tired after about 10 minutes, but get through it to get a second wind, and then after another ten minutes you get tired again, but pull through it again?
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Cool! That's quite a big improvement.Riddick Blowe wrote:Well i've just got back from my run, and my stopwatch says 27 minutes! Whoohoo! I'm improving. And i could have done more too. That felt good.
Dutch, do you find that you get tired after about 10 minutes, but get through it to get a second wind, and then after another ten minutes you get tired again, but pull through it again?
Hmm, usually i try to do a "negative split" when running, running the first half part slower than the last half.
I kind of enjoy running, i ran the marathon in 3:07 last may, which is not bad considering i never run more than 1:15.
As for finding your second wind, just look at a point far away and try to think that's the finish, when you reach it, look for another point.....fooling yourself does work sometimes.
Good luck!
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I boxed on the All Army (WCAP) Boxing team with Basheer Abdullah one of the 2000 US Olympic Team Coaches. 5 Running Days a week.
Example:
Monday: Slow 4-5 Mile run.
Tuesday: Track for intervals, like eight 400M sprints.
Wednesday: 3 Mile.
Thursday: Track 200M, 400M, 600M, 800M, 600M, 400M, 200M.
Friday: Slow 4-5 Miles.
The key is to switch it up, so your fighters don't get bored.
Example:
Monday: Slow 4-5 Mile run.
Tuesday: Track for intervals, like eight 400M sprints.
Wednesday: 3 Mile.
Thursday: Track 200M, 400M, 600M, 800M, 600M, 400M, 200M.
Friday: Slow 4-5 Miles.
The key is to switch it up, so your fighters don't get bored.
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Interval training is the way to go.
Boxing is 30% aerobic and 70% anaerobic. You should emulate this in roadwork.
If you are training to fight 3x2 minute rounds for example, you should run as follows:
1 slow lap of a track to warm up (after stretching).
Then repeat the following cycle for the duration of the round i.e. 2 minutes:
i) steadily increase speed to a full sprint, and keep running at this speed for as long as you can manage (aim for 20 second sprints)
iii) slow down to a jog for 20-30 secs
iv) repeat sprint untill the 2 minutes is up
iv) repeat cycle two more times (making up the 3 rounds you are due to fight). If you are training for 4 rounds, then do 4 sets.
Recommend to do this twice a week eg. tuesday and saturday.
This training conditions your body for ring activity. The slow jog represents moving around the ring using your jab, and the fast sprints represent explosive punching and combinations. With interval training conducted in this manner, you will be better prepared to deal with the lactic acid buildup associated with short bursts of energy.
I would still recommend at least 1 long run per week though. If you are training for a 4 rounder, aim to run at a steady pace for 4 miles. 3 rounds=3 miles etc.
If you combine this running programme with your normal gym work i.e. sparring, padwork etc, you can rest assured that you will be fit enough when you enter the ring.
Boxing is 30% aerobic and 70% anaerobic. You should emulate this in roadwork.
If you are training to fight 3x2 minute rounds for example, you should run as follows:
1 slow lap of a track to warm up (after stretching).
Then repeat the following cycle for the duration of the round i.e. 2 minutes:
i) steadily increase speed to a full sprint, and keep running at this speed for as long as you can manage (aim for 20 second sprints)
iii) slow down to a jog for 20-30 secs
iv) repeat sprint untill the 2 minutes is up
iv) repeat cycle two more times (making up the 3 rounds you are due to fight). If you are training for 4 rounds, then do 4 sets.
Recommend to do this twice a week eg. tuesday and saturday.
This training conditions your body for ring activity. The slow jog represents moving around the ring using your jab, and the fast sprints represent explosive punching and combinations. With interval training conducted in this manner, you will be better prepared to deal with the lactic acid buildup associated with short bursts of energy.
I would still recommend at least 1 long run per week though. If you are training for a 4 rounder, aim to run at a steady pace for 4 miles. 3 rounds=3 miles etc.
If you combine this running programme with your normal gym work i.e. sparring, padwork etc, you can rest assured that you will be fit enough when you enter the ring.
Re: REGARDING RUNNING
Traditional boxing running is outdated imo. There are Better ways to get in optimal peak condition. For a fight
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TheGreatBoxer
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Re: REGARDING RUNNING
I am a Novice Amateur Boxer, and this is just my opinion based on experience.
If you are training for a 3x2 minute round fight, your gym work (sparring, focus pads, bags) are very important, as for building cardio id do sprints and circuits.
road work, if there are hill around your area, try and put them on your route run 3-4 miles, 2-3 times a week.
I don't think you have to overdo the road work for a 6 minute fight.
If you are training for a 3x2 minute round fight, your gym work (sparring, focus pads, bags) are very important, as for building cardio id do sprints and circuits.
road work, if there are hill around your area, try and put them on your route run 3-4 miles, 2-3 times a week.
I don't think you have to overdo the road work for a 6 minute fight.
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Exactly. That old 5 mile traditional running is a waste of time especially for Amatuer Boxing. Gots to do shorter more intense work outsTheGreatBoxer wrote:I am a Novice Amateur Boxer, and this is just my opinion based on experience.
If you are training for a 3x2 minute round fight, your gym work (sparring, focus pads, bags) are very important, as for building cardio id do sprints and circuits.
road work, if there are hill around your area, try and put them on your route run 3-4 miles, 2-3 times a week.
I don't think you have to overdo the road work for a 6 minute fight.
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TheGreatBoxer
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For a 3 x 2 minute fight, you could even leave the roadwork out completely so long as you really intensify your gym work and circuits, also do 100m sprints.
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Got a kid who has won 2 National Gold Medals this year, has not ran at all this entire year. Running is outdated imoTheGreatBoxer wrote:For a 3 x 2 minute fight, you could even leave the roadwork out completely so long as you really intensify your gym work and circuits, also do 100m sprints.