Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 21 Dec 2024, 10:44

Usyk - Decision
53
38%
Usyk - T/KO
44
31%
DRAW
7
5%
Fury - T/KO
15
11%
Fury - Decision
22
16%
 
Total votes: 141

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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 07:46
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 07:18
tonyevs wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 02:59 Fury has looked increasingly vulnerable in his last few fights. The glancing shot by Ngannou .. the way he dramatically crumbled from that initial punch by Usyk.

I expect Fury will be 100% focused and motivated, and with his size advantage he will always be capable of stopping Usyk if he catches him cleanly again.
But he looks to have fattened himself up more this time and if he doesn't get to Usyk early then he will gas even quicker and fall even sooner.
Yes, I've been thinking the same, I think his punch resistance has deteriorated a lot in the last few years. He still has good powers of recovery, very good in fact.
100% agree on the recovery, but for both Usyk and Wilder 3, the bell for the end of the round sounded at the right time. That's boxing though.
Given the battering he took from Usyk in round 9, the fact he seemed completely back to normal by the next round was pretty remarkable.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 09:46
keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 07:46
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 07:18

Yes, I've been thinking the same, I think his punch resistance has deteriorated a lot in the last few years. He still has good powers of recovery, very good in fact.
100% agree on the recovery, but for both Usyk and Wilder 3, the bell for the end of the round sounded at the right time. That's boxing though.
Given the battering he took from Usyk in round 9, the fact he seemed completely back to normal by the next round was pretty remarkable.
Absolutely, but if Usyk had done that earlier in the round, it could have been a different result. That's all speculation and if and buts, but it's there for all to see that Fury can be put on the canvas. He might well get up, but if it's three times in a round.

Either way, I'm very excited about the rematch. :bag:
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Usyk vs Fury 2: Reignited

TNT SPORTS BOX OFFICE | DEC 21, 4pm | £24.99

After an epic encounter back in May, Oleksandr Usyk and Tyson Fury will face each other for a second time this year with Usyk’s WBA, WBC and WBO belts on the line, having vacated his IBF title to Daniel Dubois.

In their historic first fight, Usyk (22-0, 14 KOs) scored a crucial eighth-round knockdown on his way to a split-decision win, becoming the first undisputed heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis in 1999, and the first of the four-belt era. Fury (34-1-1, 24 KOs), will be looking to avenge the only loss on his professional record and become a three-time heavyweight world champion.

Starting at 4pm on Saturday December 21, get all the info you need below to make sure you're ready to watch along with TNT Sports Box Office.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

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The Docker wrote: 30 Nov 2024, 05:34
keithmoonhangover wrote: 29 Nov 2024, 17:25
The Docker wrote: 29 Nov 2024, 17:12
He doesn't really choose Keith. Granted he sometimes looks more out of shape than others. You've heard of morphology, right? He's never going to be an aesthetic god. Calzaghe was about as fit and as a hard working boxer ever. He never had a Greek god physique about him, but it didn't diminish his boxing ability nor endurance of fight.
No, he does choose. He chooses the shape he enters the ring in, just like every other boxer ever. I didn't say he has to look like adonis, but the fat around his middle will not help him. To suggest otherwise is just plain stupid. Do you think Ali would have been better with a load of fat around his middle?
You thick c*nt, I'm saying morphology wise he's blessed with a padded midriff. His choosing is only how much padding. We've all seen Fury come in shape, with vague bicep and abdomen muscularity. Even then he carries a fat roll, particularly round his lower back.
So you're saying Fury walks into the ring in absolutely peak physical condition even though he's got a load of fat hiding the muscles underneath?
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 15:58
The Docker wrote: 30 Nov 2024, 05:34
keithmoonhangover wrote: 29 Nov 2024, 17:25

No, he does choose. He chooses the shape he enters the ring in, just like every other boxer ever. I didn't say he has to look like adonis, but the fat around his middle will not help him. To suggest otherwise is just plain stupid. Do you think Ali would have been better with a load of fat around his middle?
You thick c*nt, I'm saying morphology wise he's blessed with a padded midriff. His choosing is only how much padding. We've all seen Fury come in shape, with vague bicep and abdomen muscularity. Even then he carries a fat roll, particularly round his lower back.
So you're saying Fury walks into the ring in absolutely peak physical condition even though he's got a load of fat hiding the muscles underneath?
Window licker.
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shots fired :yay:
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The Docker wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:00
keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 15:58
The Docker wrote: 30 Nov 2024, 05:34
You thick c*nt, I'm saying morphology wise he's blessed with a padded midriff. His choosing is only how much padding. We've all seen Fury come in shape, with vague bicep and abdomen muscularity. Even then he carries a fat roll, particularly round his lower back.
So you're saying Fury walks into the ring in absolutely peak physical condition even though he's got a load of fat hiding the muscles underneath?
Window licker.
I prefer fannies. :TU:
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

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The Docker wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:00
keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 15:58
The Docker wrote: 30 Nov 2024, 05:34
You thick c*nt, I'm saying morphology wise he's blessed with a padded midriff. His choosing is only how much padding. We've all seen Fury come in shape, with vague bicep and abdomen muscularity. Even then he carries a fat roll, particularly round his lower back.
So you're saying Fury walks into the ring in absolutely peak physical condition even though he's got a load of fat hiding the muscles underneath?
Window licker.
If that's the case, Butterbean must be fitter than Usain Bolt.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:14
The Docker wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:00
keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 15:58

So you're saying Fury walks into the ring in absolutely peak physical condition even though he's got a load of fat hiding the muscles underneath?
Window licker.
If that's the case, Butterbean must be fitter than Usain Bolt.
? Only you must know what the f*ck you're going on about. Surely you can't be this thick? Save your reply until April 1st, AM. Your post can then fall under the guise of the occasion, and being a laughing stock is readily accepted.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

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The Docker wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:44
keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:14
The Docker wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:00
Window licker.
If that's the case, Butterbean must be fitter than Usain Bolt.
? Only you must know what the f*ck you're going on about. Surely you can't be this thick? Save your reply until April 1st, AM. Your post can then fall under the guise of the occasion, and being a laughing stock is readily accepted.
Come on sweetheart, explain it to me, it's obviously way above my intelligence level. Do you think Fury is in better shape now (spare fat around the middle) than he was for the Klitschko fight (no spare fat around the middle)?
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quickeyg wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 11:58
quickeyg, You seem to post a lot of links to TNT sports, just an observation.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 12:43
quickeyg wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 11:58
quickeyg, You seem to post a lot of links to TNT sports, just an observation.
It’s almost as if he works for them, or one of their promotional partners.
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Frostieballs wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 13:06
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 12:43
quickeyg wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 11:58
quickeyg, You seem to post a lot of links to TNT sports, just an observation.
It’s almost as if he works for them, or one of their broadcast partners.
Question is.. is he employed by frank, queensbwrry or tnt.

Will we see the same energy when they move to DAZN.
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Frostieballs wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 13:06
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 12:43
quickeyg wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 11:58
quickeyg, You seem to post a lot of links to TNT sports, just an observation.
It’s almost as if he works for them, or one of their promotional partners.
If he's a grown man, I don't know why he needs so many laughing emojis, :o
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 09:46
keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 07:46
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 07:18

Yes, I've been thinking the same, I think his punch resistance has deteriorated a lot in the last few years. He still has good powers of recovery, very good in fact.
100% agree on the recovery, but for both Usyk and Wilder 3, the bell for the end of the round sounded at the right time. That's boxing though.
Given the battering he took from Usyk in round 9, the fact he seemed completely back to normal by the next round was pretty remarkable.
Or maybe he isnt as hurt as he looks when buzzed?

Despite the myth that says Fury is a smooth fluid boxer - the truth is, he is actually a very ungainly and awkward looking boxer. When someone that big and ungainly goes over its always going to look more dramatic.
How that initial punch seemed to deflate Fury and put him on bambi legs may have actually been as much from tiredness; he is carrying about 4st excess at least - and aside from his pedestrian like plods up Morecambe promenade with his even fatter father, he clearly skips leg day.

The bits I`ve seem him of late he looks a bigger in the arms .. but even with his shorts up to his armpits the blubber is also clear to see. Those skinny legs of his will tire mid rounds again if Usyk makes him work like he did last time.
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Ish has hit the jackpot again!
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I think Usyk wins by decision again. Fury will get through another crisis or two and make it the distance but lose clearly.
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Sunny Edwards said about retiring that one of his fighters he manages got as much as he did after two tv appearances. He can only mean Ishmael Davis, although who manages him is a different story. When you add this one then he really will be set up for quite a while. He'll no doubt become another property magnate! Property isn't expensive in Ishmael's area.
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mickey1975 wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 07:49 Sunny Edwards said about retiring that one of his fighters he manages got as much as he did after two tv appearances. He can only mean Ishmael Davis, although who manages him is a different story. When you add this one then he really will be set up for quite a while. He'll no doubt become another property magnate! Property isn't expensive in Ishmael's area.
It shows the benefit of always being ready I think. Fair play to Ishmael. Other fighters should take note.
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maverick23 wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 07:57
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 07:49 Sunny Edwards said about retiring that one of his fighters he manages got as much as he did after two tv appearances. He can only mean Ishmael Davis, although who manages him is a different story. When you add this one then he really will be set up for quite a while. He'll no doubt become another property magnate! Property isn't expensive in Ishmael's area.
It shows the benefit of always being ready I think. Fair play to Ishmael. Other fighters should take note.
It also shows it isn't lost on Turki. He seems a very loyal guy.
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mickey1975 wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 08:06
maverick23 wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 07:57
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 07:49 Sunny Edwards said about retiring that one of his fighters he manages got as much as he did after two tv appearances. He can only mean Ishmael Davis, although who manages him is a different story. When you add this one then he really will be set up for quite a while. He'll no doubt become another property magnate! Property isn't expensive in Ishmael's area.
It shows the benefit of always being ready I think. Fair play to Ishmael. Other fighters should take note.
It also shows it isn't lost on Turki. He seems a very loyal guy.
Yeah - it seems that way. He seems especially loyal to Frank, Spencer and even Eddie.

It makes it even more baffling to me as to why Yarde left Frank.

You may have already listened to it but he did a good piece earlier this week on Ariel/Ade’s show.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

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Just watched the first fight again. A lot has been made of Usyk being hurt, that might be true, but he doesn't lose his shape, doesn't lose his cool and protects himself well.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:14
The Docker wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 16:00
keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 15:58

So you're saying Fury walks into the ring in absolutely peak physical condition even though he's got a load of fat hiding the muscles underneath?
Window licker.
If that's the case, Butterbean must be fitter than Usain Bolt.
Probably would be over a 6 rnd fight . Known hundreds , who take 10 min to run a kilometre , but can spar a hard 6 rnds at a high pace
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