Absolutely. The obvious other card he could play after perhaps pleading not guilty instead of guilty and getting done might explain the drawn out period of time between the trial and sentencing?Coco wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:28The trick is to play the sympathy card after pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity, they are likely to take it at face value, without investigating to see whether it is true or not.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 12:32 Stefy has been at it for years, Covid has nowt to do with it. He’s been driving that stupid massive car for years and he didn’t pay for it from his Harper commission.
Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.
Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.
The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?
Say you know you have done wrong and deserve to go to prison.
As things stand he is looking at 15 where he will do 10.
If he had done things right he would have got more like 12, reduced to 8 on the guilty plea.
Behave yourself and you will be out in 5, any time spent on remand will count as double too.
In a nutshell it's the difference between 5 or 10 behind the door.
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Jimmy, kilos of coke = kilos of crack when washed up, it's the most damaging drug there is. I am local and he has been doing it for years.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 12:32 Stefy has been at it for years, Covid has nowt to do with it. He’s been driving that stupid massive car for years and he didn’t pay for it from his Harper commission.
Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.
Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.
The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?
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That's probably just backlog, serving 6 months on remand will save 6 months of his life, the only touch he will get.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:46Absolutely. The obvious other card he could play after perhaps pleading not guilty instead of guilty and getting done might explain the drawn out period of time between the trial and sentencing?Coco wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:28The trick is to play the sympathy card after pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity, they are likely to take it at face value, without investigating to see whether it is true or not.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36
Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.
Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.
Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.
The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?
Say you know you have done wrong and deserve to go to prison.
As things stand he is looking at 15 where he will do 10.
If he had done things right he would have got more like 12, reduced to 8 on the guilty plea.
Behave yourself and you will be out in 5, any time spent on remand will count as double too.
In a nutshell it's the difference between 5 or 10 behind the door.
After pleading not guilty, wasting the courts time and money with a Mickey Mouse story, being a sportsman, working with kids probably means he will get top whack.
Maybe it was his decision, but a lot of time it's the barristers fault, they earn much more for a jury trial, they are laughing all the way to the bank with a not guilty plea. I've seen a few get bad advice when they have no chance of winning
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True and fair enough. You always seem to be a straight shooter and reliable source so I'll bow to your local knowledgeSeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:51Jimmy, kilos of coke = kilos of crack when washed up, it's the most damaging drug there is. I am local and he has been doing it for years.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 12:32 Stefy has been at it for years, Covid has nowt to do with it. He’s been driving that stupid massive car for years and he didn’t pay for it from his Harper commission.
Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.
Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.
The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?
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That usually happens when there are other linked trials going on and they can't reveal the outcome of one in case it prejudices the others.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 12:32 Stefy has been at it for years, Covid has nowt to do with it. He’s been driving that stupid massive car for years and he didn’t pay for it from his Harper commission.
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Whats the point of having these drugs illegal when everyone is on them every weekend? Including the politicians!!
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Alcohol has got more to answer for than cocaine and weed. Take away drink and watch crime rate fall instantly
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literally.TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 06:55 Whats the point of having these drugs illegal when everyone is on them every weekend? Including the politicians!!
People in all sorts of high pressure jobs smoke weed.
I remember working in sales and the team leader used to go have one with a few of his staff members.
He said he couldn't function in the job without it

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It doesn't stop behind the wall either 

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Can you believe that shite used to be for sale in newsagents
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Hi Jimmy, I am not judging anyone, I just know how destructive it is mate, lost close family members to addiction but not under any impression anyone put it in their arm nose or mouth. It's just a big waste of anyone who is involved in that business. There are no happy drug users or dealers, not in the end. Lets hope he comes out and rebuilds a life.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 15:13True and fair enough. You always seem to be a straight shooter and reliable source so I'll bow to your local knowledgeSeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:51Jimmy, kilos of coke = kilos of crack when washed up, it's the most damaging drug there is. I am local and he has been doing it for years.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36
Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.
Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.
Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.
The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?