dempseyfire wrote:granberry wrote:Dempseyfire ,
How many times can you stick your foot in it in one paragraph?
"the rules of boxing state that if the ropes are the only thing keeping you from going down, it's considered a KD"
You are full of it.
There are no such "rules."
A knockdown is when any part of a fighter's body other than the bottom of his feet touches the canvas as the result of a punch--a knee, a glove, the fighter's behind, flat on his face, flat on his back (as Ali was in the 15 th round against Frazier), both knees (as Ali was in the 11th round against Frazier).
Ali spent much of his career sitting on the ropes and that is just thrilling to the walking army of the Ali industry. That is not a "knockdown."
"Mills Lane made the right call"
Stooge "referee" Mills Lane certainly made the "right call" to protect the designated winner, Holyfield. If he didn't dance to protect the designated winner, he would never be asked to referee another Don King or Arum fight again.
" No-one who wrote about it afterward in the post-fight reports, and none of the fight announcers, agreed with your opinion."
Ali industry clone Dempseyfire admits that his "authorities" are the "fight announcers"----Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant, Howard Cosell, and the other "experts" who never had a fight with their own sisters.
Poor Dempseyfire doesn't know that the Larry Merchants, Jim Lampleys, and Cosells would be fired in a heartbeat if they did anything other than shill for the designated winner.
Dempseyfire hangs on every word these shills say and breathlessly regurgitates their "insights" back out on this site.
And OF COURSE, dempseyfire spent a lot of time in the library going over all the newspapers in the US before he would dare make the statement,
"No-one who wrote about it afterward in the post-fight reports, and none of the fight announcers, agreed with your opinion."
So dempseyfire tells us he doesn't know what a knockdown is, and that he regards the media shills as his godlike authorities.
As if we didn't already know that.
This is like arguing with a 5 year old.
http://www.secondsout.com/RINGSIDE/scen ... 57&cs=9855
"The general rules of boxing as well as all organized rules dictate that a boxer is deemed downed if when struck by
a legal blow(s) any part other than the soles of his feet touch the canvas. He may also be considered down if he is hanging helplessly on the ropes as a result of a legal blow(s); or, if when struck by a legal blow(s) only the ropes prevented him from being knocked down. "
Poor Dempseyfire takes time out from quoting his boxing "experts" Larry Merchant and Jim Lampley
to stick his foot up his own ass again.
Dempseyfire isn't bright enough to read the following on the "source" he so stupidly posts:
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Poor Dempseyfire cannot produce a "rule" from any official boxing commission that says that a fighter on the ropes is considered knocked down,
because
there is no such rule.
HOW MANY TIMES does Dempseyfire need to demonstrate here that he doesn't have a clue what boxing is,
and that he gathers all his "knowledge" of boxing from those who are not experts.
With the trouble Dempsey fire has differentiating between opinion and what an actual
rule is, I am sure he could far in the judiciary.
Maybe he can even get a special scholarship for the learning disabled.