Robin Reid announcement imminent

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 21 Oct 2003, 11:59

Promoter Jess Harding has revealed: "We will have a big announcement concerning Robin Reid by the weekend.
"I'm close to signing a proper world title fight for Robin right now and we should be in a position to make a formal announcement by the time he steps into the ring on Friday night." (Reid takes on Vage Kocharyan on Friday at York Hall).
Harding would not reveal the champion he is currently in negotiations with, but Ottke makes the most sense.
Another possibility could be a meeting with Belfast's IBO champion Brian Magee, though the IBO title hardly constitutes a proper title.
Meanwhile, Courtney Fry is also on Friday's York Hall bill, although flyweight king Peter Culshaw is off.
Culshaw was originally keen to get in a non-title contest to keep in shape ahead of next year's world title domestic punch-up with Irishman Damaen Kelly, but a lack of opponent has forced Culshaw off the card.
Fry will meet London-based Jamaican Ovill McKenzie over four rounds.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 21 Oct 2003, 12:02

its ottke i was told this a month ago,

dont i have a thread about this down the page

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 21 Oct 2003, 12:49

Come on Robin you little scouse person you! Go over and KO Ottke, do it for Britain, you deserve to be a world champion again.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 21 Oct 2003, 13:40

steve689 wrote:you deserve to be a world champion again.

British patriotism there Steve, not sure really does Reid deserve to be champion - aint done much since Malinga to warrant a shot.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Oct 2003, 14:52

stujones wrote:
steve689 wrote:you deserve to be a world champion again.
British patriotism there Steve, not sure really does Reid deserve to be champion - aint done much since Malinga to warrant a shot.

True, but that didn't stop Ottke's representatives calling David Starie! If Reid does get a shot at Ottke, what a fantastic opportunity this is for him. They don't come much better than this.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 21 Oct 2003, 15:47

A great chance for Reid if this comes off. I never gave Starie any shot at winning in Germany, but Reid's in with a real shout.

Also depends which Robin Reid turns up of course, if it's the version who took on Calzaghe then he should win, but if it's the tentative version who threw his title away against Malinga, then he'll lose.

Not impossible to win on points in Germany either, as we've seen a few times lately.
And Reid has boxed for a world title abroad before and won ( ok, so it was Nardiello! )
If he wins - and he should, Ottke's nearing the end - then it'll be a Reid/Calzaghe 3 title bonanza next year.

Then whoever wins can dump the WBO belt, so we don't get anymore Freeman Barr and Whatsisface mandatory mismatches.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 22 Oct 2003, 04:02

steve689 wrote:you deserve to be a world champion again.

He's done sweet FA in the last few years to deserve to be world champion again or even deserve a title shot. Although Ottke's on the slide I can't see Reid beating him as he's always struggled with boxers (witness the Malinga and Branco fights) and has only looked good against those prepared to duke it out with him (Wharton). He's too one-paced to pin down the slippery German.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 22 Oct 2003, 08:19

Yeah ok blah blah, he doesn't deserve to be a champ again maybe your all right, but i still hold a grudge back to the Calzaghe fight which i thought he won, so i was referring to that subconsciously when i made my brash and outrageous claims that Reid deserved to be crowned again. Please forgive me and please....let's get behind our man out in Germany, the only way Reid will win this fight is by KO'ing Ottke, plain and simple Ottke is in such a career stage that he could be knocked down every round and still win, Reid CANNOT win on points with Ottke nearing the end of his career IMO.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 22 Oct 2003, 08:49

steve689 wrote:Yeah ok blah blah, he doesn't deserve to be a champ again maybe your all right, but i still hold a grudge back to the Calzaghe fight which i thought he won, so i was referring to that subconsciously when i made my brash and outrageous claims that Reid deserved to be crowned again. Please forgive me and please....let's get behind our man out in Germany, the only way Reid will win this fight is by KO'ing Ottke, plain and simple Ottke is in such a career stage that he could be knocked down every round and still win, Reid CANNOT win on points with Ottke nearing the end of his career IMO.

I will be impressed if The Grim Reaper can do it again, and will give him the utmost respect for winning a proper belt on two seperate occasions away from home.

Still pretty convinced that Ottke will be too slippery, although I've never been a fan of Robin so perhaps I'm biased.

I will be behind him 100%.

Interesting to see what this will do to the Supermiddle rankings.

tolstoy · Post by **tolstoy** » 22 Oct 2003, 08:56

In fairness to Robin Reid and in addressing those who would criticise his right to another title shot, let's remember that he's currently ranked number 5 in the world by this website. The super middleweight division isn't exactly bulging with talent at the moment, nor has it for several years, so why not give Reid another go?

He's won his last nine fights (mostly against mediocre individuals admittedly) and stopped his last three opponents. He had a good points win a couple of years ago against the vastly experienced former world champion (but, yes, over the hill) Julio Cesar Vasquez.

I'm glad to see him get the chance to turn over Ottke. As Steve says, however, a stoppage will be required. Can't see a clean KO on Ottke, though, more like a TKO.

Reid is more than capable. It depends just how much he's got left at the age of 32.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 22 Oct 2003, 08:58

Nick Peet, a respected journalist with good contacts, seems to feel Reid is going to be challenging Brian Magee on November 22 in Belfast. (See story on Boxing Central).

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 22 Oct 2003, 09:05

seconds out says

As reported nearly a week ago, it looks like former WBC super-middleweight champion Robin Reid will face undefeated German Sven Ottke for the IBF and WBA super-middleweight titles in Germany on December 13. No official announcement has yet been made but promoter Jess Harding is expected to confirm before the weekend

so whos it goona be magge or ottke

i think reid is too much of a danger for magee at this present moment

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 22 Oct 2003, 09:05

I give Ottke some credit - I can think of worst fighters he could have faced in voluntary defences than Starie, Larsen (who's the devision darkhorse still) and Reid.

People have critised Ottke's opponents with as much regularity as Calzaghe. However, Ottke seems to be pulling out the stops in what might be his final year in the game.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 22 Oct 2003, 09:06

tolstoy wrote:In fairness to Robin Reid and in addressing those who would criticise his right to another title shot, let's remember that he's currently ranked number 5 in the world by this website. The super middleweight division isn't exactly bulging with talent at the moment, nor has it for several years, so why not give Reid another go?

He's won his last nine fights (mostly against mediocre individuals admittedly) and stopped his last three opponents. He had a good points win a couple of years ago against the vastly experienced former world champion (but, yes, over the hill) Julio Cesar Vasquez.

There are positive spins and positive spins

You neglect to mention that Vasquez was world champion at light-middleweight! It wasn't a good points win for Reid it was a poor performance where he failed to dispatch a faded guy who spent the vast majority of his career two weight divisions below Reid.
Why not give Reid another go? Because he's taken the p**s out of fans over the past few years by facing a series of opponents that make Ricky Hatton's look good.
You couldn't imagine a bigger contrast than with the likes of Glenn Catley, who went and fought for real world titles in Canada and Germany - now that's how you EARN a shot, not taking on opponents who barely have a pulse.
He's wasted his undouted ability.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 22 Oct 2003, 09:14

bridgie boy wrote:
tolstoy wrote:In fairness to Robin Reid and in addressing those who would criticise his right to another title shot, let's remember that he's currently ranked number 5 in the world by this website. The super middleweight division isn't exactly bulging with talent at the moment, nor has it for several years, so why not give Reid another go?

He's won his last nine fights (mostly against mediocre individuals admittedly) and stopped his last three opponents. He had a good points win a couple of years ago against the vastly experienced former world champion (but, yes, over the hill) Julio Cesar Vasquez.
There are positive spins and positive spins

You neglect to mention that Vasquez was world champion at light-middleweight! It wasn't a good points win for Reid it was a poor performance where he failed to dispatch a faded guy who spent the vast majority of his career two weight divisions below Reid.
Why not give Reid another go? Because he's taken the p**s out of fans over the past few years by facing a series of opponents that make Ricky Hatton's look good.
You couldn't imagine a bigger contrast than with the likes of Glenn Catley, who went and fought for real world titles in Canada and Germany - now that's how you EARN a shot, not taking on opponents who barely have a pulse.
He's wasted his undouted ability.

Agree with your points there Bridgie.

Indeed I (although I might be the only one) thought Vasquez sneeked that fight.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 22 Oct 2003, 11:40

stujones wrote:I give Ottke some credit - I can think of worst fighters he could have faced in voluntary defences than Starie, Larsen (who's the devision darkhorse still) and Reid.

People have critised Ottke's opponents with as much regularity as Calzaghe. However, Ottke seems to be pulling out the stops in what might be his final year in the game.

Yeah i think your right Stu, for all his criticism i feel with Starie, Larsen and Reid (?) as recent opponents then take Mitchell out of the equasion (cause they both fought him anyway) then Ottke has fought better opposition than Calzaghe in the last stretch of fights.

tolstoy · Post by **tolstoy** » 22 Oct 2003, 15:19

A tad negative on Robin Reid, I fear.

He did win his world title in Italy remember by beating that dastardly dog, Vincenzo Nardiello. Not an easy task because that guy is one mother f***ing spoiler.

All I'm doing is trying to be a bit upbeat about his chances. He's a talented fighter and (usually) good to watch and I naively thought some other Brits might think along similar lines.