Scott Harrison to make a comeback

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"I'll be looking to get back in the ring in December or early January, probably December," Harrison said.

http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news ... tlead.html
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Scott Harrison wrote:"I'll be looking to get back in the ring in December or early January, probably December," Harrison said.

http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news ... tlead.html
This is assuming he stays off the bottle, out of the slammer, and generally on the straight and narrow, of course....
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Good news who will he be promoted by anyone know? I think Maloney said he would never represent him again.
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Lets hope this can give him the focus he needs, Scott needs boxing emotionally and financially
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5 time world champion?
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Seems like he's still in denial, blaming weight problems rather than his drinking, ...he needs to admit that hes an alcoholic... seven weeks without a drink is just early days... but good luck to him, getting back into the ring is probably the best thing for him....
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has he still got a boxing licence? Thought he was suspended.
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Well, at least he has admitted it was his own fault.

I'll be watching his comeback with interest for sure. Who knows what kind of shape he'll be in. A move up in weight had been on the cards for some years now, so that cannot do any harm.

Good luck to him, if he can stay dry and in the gym, then if nothing else his well being should improve.
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josh fg wrote:Good news who will he be promoted by anyone know? I think Maloney said he would never represent him again.
Warren could always sacrifice him to Khan.
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He should make 9st 9lbs Instead. Harrison's too stocky for Super Feather.
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So has all that business with the Spanish police finished then? I just thought he was granted bail (just) I cannot remember him going to court over the alledged assault.
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Max Molyneux wrote:
josh fg wrote:Good news who will he be promoted by anyone know? I think Maloney said he would never represent him again.
Warren could always sacrifice him to Khan.
Could well be in the mid term plan.

Scott can at least come back and earn 100k to get humiliated by Khan late next year/early 2009.
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silkov wrote:Seems like he's still in denial, blaming weight problems rather than his drinking, ...he needs to admit that hes an alcoholic... seven weeks without a drink is just early days... but good luck to him, getting back into the ring is probably the best thing for him....
BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
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Max Molyneux wrote:
josh fg wrote:Good news who will he be promoted by anyone know? I think Maloney said he would never represent him again.
Warren could always sacrifice him to Khan.
Harrison would be very dangerous for Khan at this stage. Hes big at lightweight (he weighed 146lbs and looked ripped on some fight nights. He will be stronger and more durable at lightweight. He will still have great power, chin, strength, stamina and experience of the top class.

He may have slipped allot however but that isnt a given
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
silkov wrote:Seems like he's still in denial, blaming weight problems rather than his drinking, ...he needs to admit that hes an alcoholic... seven weeks without a drink is just early days... but good luck to him, getting back into the ring is probably the best thing for him....
BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
What a glib comment.

There's no such thing as an 'evening alcoholic.' You're an alchie or you ain't mate. There's alcoholics and chronic alcoholics, and judging by the state of Harrison in some of those pictures he is a chronic alcoholic.

There are plenty of alchies who have been warned they are drinking themselves do death, and yet still cannot do anything to help themselves. Alcoholism is unfortunately a genetic disposition some of us have, hell, even bloody monkeys have it.

My father and several of my uncles were alcoholics, only one of them managed to crack it, and it took him a bloody long time and several relapses, and he went on to become an Sponsor with the AA. You know what, after 20 years of not drinking, when his niece died, he hit the bottle and went on the rampage for a week.

I love hearing people opining about how easy it is for people to do this, and for people to do that, my feelings on the matter are simply, never judge a man until you walk a mile in his moccasins. What might be easy for one man, can be the hardest thing in the world for another. It's like someone who isn't scared of heights telling someone else 'stop being stupid, there's no way you can fall,' and dragging them to the edge of the cliff, expecting them not to be scared, and then calling them a pussy when they aren't.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
silkov wrote:Seems like he's still in denial, blaming weight problems rather than his drinking, ...he needs to admit that hes an alcoholic... seven weeks without a drink is just early days... but good luck to him, getting back into the ring is probably the best thing for him....
BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
What a glib comment.

There's no such thing as an 'evening alcoholic.' You're an alchie or you ain't mate. There's alcoholics and chronic alcoholics, and judging by the state of Harrison in some of those pictures he is a chronic alcoholic.

There are plenty of alchies who have been warned they are drinking themselves do death, and yet still cannot do anything to help themselves. Alcoholism is unfortunately a genetic disposition some of us have, hell, even bloody monkeys have it.

My father and several of my uncles were alcoholics, only one of them managed to crack it, and it took him a bloody long time and several relapses, and he went on to become an Sponsor with the AA. You know what, after 20 years of not drinking, when his niece died, he hit the bottle and went on the rampage for a week.

I love hearing people opining about how easy it is for people to do this, and for people to do that, my feelings on the matter are simply, never judge a man until you walk a mile in his moccasins. What might be easy for one man, can be the hardest thing in the world for another. It's like someone who isn't scared of heights telling someone else 'stop being stupid, there's no way you can fall,' and dragging them to the edge of the cliff, expecting them not to be scared, and then calling them a pussy when they aren't.
Glib it was. My brother is an alcoholic, but has not had a drink for 8 years. He is only 34 now. But from 18 he did 6 years in the nick over two stretches for violence when pissed.

He would drink to oblivion as often as possible and then attempt to start world war III on his own. Talk about a pain in the arse, the stories I could tell you. Drink was the only thing that mattered to him in the world.

He once drank all night with a mate to 5am. (this was in the early 90's) then ran out of booze. Nowhere open. So he goes down to the local Threshers and throws a shopping trolley hrough the window and helps himself.

Another time, he was in a fish and chip shop pissed. The bloke behind the ramp says he doent sell booze. So my brother vaults the counter and tries to put the blokes head in the fryer with the fish.

I could go on for hours. Fortunately, when in prison, he got into AA and realised that his quality of life would be better without drink. And he wanted it to be better. His life is much better now, but he attends a meeting every day and is a sponsor.

Having said that I think he is now addicted to AA. But better that than killing people or himself.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
silkov wrote:Seems like he's still in denial, blaming weight problems rather than his drinking, ...he needs to admit that hes an alcoholic... seven weeks without a drink is just early days... but good luck to him, getting back into the ring is probably the best thing for him....
BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
What a glib comment.

There's no such thing as an 'evening alcoholic.' You're an alchie or you ain't mate. There's alcoholics and chronic alcoholics, and judging by the state of Harrison in some of those pictures he is a chronic alcoholic.

There are plenty of alchies who have been warned they are drinking themselves do death, and yet still cannot do anything to help themselves. Alcoholism is unfortunately a genetic disposition some of us have, hell, even bloody monkeys have it.

My father and several of my uncles were alcoholics, only one of them managed to crack it, and it took him a bloody long time and several relapses, and he went on to become an Sponsor with the AA. You know what, after 20 years of not drinking, when his niece died, he hit the bottle and went on the rampage for a week.

I love hearing people opining about how easy it is for people to do this, and for people to do that, my feelings on the matter are simply, never judge a man until you walk a mile in his moccasins. What might be easy for one man, can be the hardest thing in the world for another. It's like someone who isn't scared of heights telling someone else 'stop being stupid, there's no way you can fall,' and dragging them to the edge of the cliff, expecting them not to be scared, and then calling them a pussy when they aren't.
OK, well I was an alcoholic because I couldnt stop I need it every night, I just didnt drink during the day. I've been trying to stop on and off for a while. I've gone a few weeks clean before but depression typically starts me again. Then again I don't think I've ever quite got to chronic alcoholism that my friend had.

I never said it was easy to kick the bottle, its bloody hard, coming off for 1-2 days for me used to be a nightmare and I sued to eb desperate for a drink. For some reason - possibly that I didnt want to be dead like my friend it was really easy to stay off the past 2 weeks. And I've tried to reform myself so many times without being able to. And as any alcoholic will tell you the first 2 weeks are the hardest.

In some ways I'll miss drinking, I'm at my hapiest with a drink in my hand but I don't need my liver packing in a few years like my good friend.

There is supposedly new drugs that help reduce peoples addiction to alcohol and nicoteen and other substances.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
silkov wrote:Seems like he's still in denial, blaming weight problems rather than his drinking, ...he needs to admit that hes an alcoholic... seven weeks without a drink is just early days... but good luck to him, getting back into the ring is probably the best thing for him....
BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
Why the attitude??....You obviously dont know what youre talking about if you think 7 weeks without a drink makes someone 'cured'... I have first hand experience of alcoholism and believe me you can be dry for ten years and then start again worse than ever, its an ongoing battle and theres no cure except taking it day by day and having support and understanding that youre never cured. I hope you have stopped drinking forever, but 10 days is not a lot at all, when it gets to 10 weeks or ten months thats when it gets difficult, if you think youre free after 10 days then youre leaving yourself open to a fall....
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
What a glib comment.

There's no such thing as an 'evening alcoholic.' You're an alchie or you ain't mate. There's alcoholics and chronic alcoholics, and judging by the state of Harrison in some of those pictures he is a chronic alcoholic.

There are plenty of alchies who have been warned they are drinking themselves do death, and yet still cannot do anything to help themselves. Alcoholism is unfortunately a genetic disposition some of us have, hell, even bloody monkeys have it.

My father and several of my uncles were alcoholics, only one of them managed to crack it, and it took him a bloody long time and several relapses, and he went on to become an Sponsor with the AA. You know what, after 20 years of not drinking, when his niece died, he hit the bottle and went on the rampage for a week.

I love hearing people opining about how easy it is for people to do this, and for people to do that, my feelings on the matter are simply, never judge a man until you walk a mile in his moccasins. What might be easy for one man, can be the hardest thing in the world for another. It's like someone who isn't scared of heights telling someone else 'stop being stupid, there's no way you can fall,' and dragging them to the edge of the cliff, expecting them not to be scared, and then calling them a pussy when they aren't.
OK, well I was an alcoholic because I couldnt stop I need it every night, I just didnt drink during the day. I've been trying to stop on and off for a while. I've gone a few weeks clean before but depression typically starts me again. Then again I don't think I've ever quite got to chronic alcoholism that my friend had.

I never said it was easy to kick the bottle, its bloody hard, coming off for 1-2 days for me used to be a nightmare and I sued to eb desperate for a drink. For some reason - possibly that I didnt want to be dead like my friend it was really easy to stay off the past 2 weeks. And I've tried to reform myself so many times without being able to. And as any alcoholic will tell you the first 2 weeks are the hardest.

In some ways I'll miss drinking, I'm at my hapiest with a drink in my hand but I don't need my liver packing in a few years like my good friend.

There is supposedly new drugs that help reduce peoples addiction to alcohol and nicoteen and other substances.
You should be having some support from your doctor for this, such as antidepressants, counseling etc... there are things that can make it easier
.....its much harder if you try and do it all alone.
The early weeks may seem the hardest, but the time when many relapse is when they start feeling normal and good after a few months and the temptation of a drink can suddenly take you by surprise....
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Stopping drinking is difficult, but it's staying stopped that's more difficult. Physically, the first 3 days are the most uncomfortable with the shaking and sweating. Psychologically, the difficult time can last for years, if not forever, with the alcoholic convincing himself that he could become a normal drinker if he resumed the habit.

Unfortunately, alcoholics usually pick up where they left off and then become even worse. At some point, something changes in the brain chemistry of an alkie and after that there's usually no going back. There's always an exception to a rule and I'm sure we all know problem drinkers who have reformed and become normal social drinkers, but it's worth remembering that George Best once stayed off the sauce for 12 months.
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I hadn't read Silkov's posts when I wrote mine, but I think we're saying pretty much the same thing.
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KO Artist wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
What a glib comment.

There's no such thing as an 'evening alcoholic.' You're an alchie or you ain't mate. There's alcoholics and chronic alcoholics, and judging by the state of Harrison in some of those pictures he is a chronic alcoholic.

There are plenty of alchies who have been warned they are drinking themselves do death, and yet still cannot do anything to help themselves. Alcoholism is unfortunately a genetic disposition some of us have, hell, even bloody monkeys have it.

My father and several of my uncles were alcoholics, only one of them managed to crack it, and it took him a bloody long time and several relapses, and he went on to become an Sponsor with the AA. You know what, after 20 years of not drinking, when his niece died, he hit the bottle and went on the rampage for a week.

I love hearing people opining about how easy it is for people to do this, and for people to do that, my feelings on the matter are simply, never judge a man until you walk a mile in his moccasins. What might be easy for one man, can be the hardest thing in the world for another. It's like someone who isn't scared of heights telling someone else 'stop being stupid, there's no way you can fall,' and dragging them to the edge of the cliff, expecting them not to be scared, and then calling them a pussy when they aren't.
Glib it was. My brother is an alcoholic, but has not had a drink for 8 years. He is only 34 now. But from 18 he did 6 years in the nick over two stretches for violence when pissed.

He would drink to oblivion as often as possible and then attempt to start world war III on his own. Talk about a pain in the arse, the stories I could tell you. Drink was the only thing that mattered to him in the world.

He once drank all night with a mate to 5am. (this was in the early 90's) then ran out of booze. Nowhere open. So he goes down to the local Threshers and throws a shopping trolley hrough the window and helps himself.

Another time, he was in a fish and chip shop pissed. The bloke behind the ramp says he doent sell booze. So my brother vaults the counter and tries to put the blokes head in the fryer with the fish.

I could go on for hours. Fortunately, when in prison, he got into AA and realised that his quality of life would be better without drink. And he wanted it to be better. His life is much better now, but he attends a meeting every day and is a sponsor.

Having said that I think he is now addicted to AA. But better that than killing people or himself.
Yeah, my Uncle Patsy became an AA addict, or 'bore' as most other people would have it. He was constantly telling people they had a drink problem, probably because he secretly envied the fact that they could get pissed without turning into a raving lunatic.

He was rather like your bro, he would get annihilated on massive benders, and wreck everything in sight, he was absolutely terrified when he was drunk. He now smokes about 60 fags a day and has had two strokes, and will probably die soon, but at least he stopped ruining the lives of everyone around him.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
What a glib comment.

There's no such thing as an 'evening alcoholic.' You're an alchie or you ain't mate. There's alcoholics and chronic alcoholics, and judging by the state of Harrison in some of those pictures he is a chronic alcoholic.

There are plenty of alchies who have been warned they are drinking themselves do death, and yet still cannot do anything to help themselves. Alcoholism is unfortunately a genetic disposition some of us have, hell, even bloody monkeys have it.

My father and several of my uncles were alcoholics, only one of them managed to crack it, and it took him a bloody long time and several relapses, and he went on to become an Sponsor with the AA. You know what, after 20 years of not drinking, when his niece died, he hit the bottle and went on the rampage for a week.

I love hearing people opining about how easy it is for people to do this, and for people to do that, my feelings on the matter are simply, never judge a man until you walk a mile in his moccasins. What might be easy for one man, can be the hardest thing in the world for another. It's like someone who isn't scared of heights telling someone else 'stop being stupid, there's no way you can fall,' and dragging them to the edge of the cliff, expecting them not to be scared, and then calling them a pussy when they aren't.
OK, well I was an alcoholic because I couldnt stop I need it every night, I just didnt drink during the day. I've been trying to stop on and off for a while. I've gone a few weeks clean before but depression typically starts me again. Then again I don't think I've ever quite got to chronic alcoholism that my friend had.

I never said it was easy to kick the bottle, its bloody hard, coming off for 1-2 days for me used to be a nightmare and I sued to eb desperate for a drink. For some reason - possibly that I didnt want to be dead like my friend it was really easy to stay off the past 2 weeks. And I've tried to reform myself so many times without being able to. And as any alcoholic will tell you the first 2 weeks are the hardest.

In some ways I'll miss drinking, I'm at my hapiest with a drink in my hand but I don't need my liver packing in a few years like my good friend.

There is supposedly new drugs that help reduce peoples addiction to alcohol and nicoteen and other substances.
Anyone who has had counselling for alcohol problems will tell you that you never really get over being an alcoholic, you just have to make the decision, every single day, that you are not going to drink.

So many alcoholics think they've cracked it, and so they start drinking again, and for a time they are fine, having the odd drink here and there, but before they know it, they're right back where they started, and they have to start the horrific process all over again.

My dad is still a bloody piss head, 45 years and counting, he knows he's pissed his life away, and he's said as much, but he just cannot face life without a drink. It chases all the other demons away, which are many in his case, and with fairly good reason.
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silkov wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
silkov wrote:Seems like he's still in denial, blaming weight problems rather than his drinking, ...he needs to admit that hes an alcoholic... seven weeks without a drink is just early days... but good luck to him, getting back into the ring is probably the best thing for him....
BULLSHIT, if you can get off the liquor for a week you can get off it for good, if your an alco its a battle to get off the first day, the first week can be hell. After the first week its progressively easier and 7 weeks off..

Now he may be in denial about being 7 weeks off and he may be in denial abotu being an alco in the first place.

I have just come back from seeing a good friend who has 2-3 days to live because of alcohol induced liver failure. I'm an evening alcoholic myself and after hearing of his condition a week ago have stopped drinking forever - 10 days and counting. Usually its hell to stay off but this time its been pretty easy.

Harrison was a massive featherweight, ripped to the bone at 147lbs, ofcourse he was too big for 126lbs

I hope Harrison doesnt end up like my friend
Why the attitude??....You obviously dont know what youre talking about if you think 7 weeks without a drink makes someone 'cured'... I have first hand experience of alcoholism and believe me you can be dry for ten years and then start again worse than ever, its an ongoing battle and theres no cure except taking it day by day and having support and understanding that youre never cured. I hope you have stopped drinking forever, but 10 days is not a lot at all, when it gets to 10 weeks or ten months thats when it gets difficult, if you think youre free after 10 days then youre leaving yourself open to a fall....
Fair enough, I overreacted there. Yes I agree there is always the risk of re-activating your alcoholism. BUT your technically not addicted after the early days. After 10 days the major part pf my addiction has gone, the withdrawal and constant need for alcohol isnt there.

You may occasionally have the desire to get the kick you once had from alcoholism though. I love a drink but I've just goto find other replacements and enjoyments in my life. The other problem is bad habits. Alcoholism is a habit and a crutch for phychological issues. Its a social habit and a daily habit. The ex-alcholoic has to avoid those habits at all costs. He needs 1 thing - DISCIPLINE - not easy but he can control it if he wants too.

Now IF Scotts SERIOUSLY been drink free for 7months its a huge achievement for him. Thats a big if though.
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silkov wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote: What a glib comment.

There's no such thing as an 'evening alcoholic.' You're an alchie or you ain't mate. There's alcoholics and chronic alcoholics, and judging by the state of Harrison in some of those pictures he is a chronic alcoholic.

There are plenty of alchies who have been warned they are drinking themselves do death, and yet still cannot do anything to help themselves. Alcoholism is unfortunately a genetic disposition some of us have, hell, even bloody monkeys have it.

My father and several of my uncles were alcoholics, only one of them managed to crack it, and it took him a bloody long time and several relapses, and he went on to become an Sponsor with the AA. You know what, after 20 years of not drinking, when his niece died, he hit the bottle and went on the rampage for a week.

I love hearing people opining about how easy it is for people to do this, and for people to do that, my feelings on the matter are simply, never judge a man until you walk a mile in his moccasins. What might be easy for one man, can be the hardest thing in the world for another. It's like someone who isn't scared of heights telling someone else 'stop being stupid, there's no way you can fall,' and dragging them to the edge of the cliff, expecting them not to be scared, and then calling them a pussy when they aren't.
OK, well I was an alcoholic because I couldnt stop I need it every night, I just didnt drink during the day. I've been trying to stop on and off for a while. I've gone a few weeks clean before but depression typically starts me again. Then again I don't think I've ever quite got to chronic alcoholism that my friend had.

I never said it was easy to kick the bottle, its bloody hard, coming off for 1-2 days for me used to be a nightmare and I sued to eb desperate for a drink. For some reason - possibly that I didnt want to be dead like my friend it was really easy to stay off the past 2 weeks. And I've tried to reform myself so many times without being able to. And as any alcoholic will tell you the first 2 weeks are the hardest.

In some ways I'll miss drinking, I'm at my hapiest with a drink in my hand but I don't need my liver packing in a few years like my good friend.

There is supposedly new drugs that help reduce peoples addiction to alcohol and nicoteen and other substances.
You should be having some support from your doctor for this, such as antidepressants, counseling etc... there are things that can make it easier
.....its much harder if you try and do it all alone.
The early weeks may seem the hardest, but the time when many relapse is when they start feeling normal and good after a few months and the temptation of a drink can suddenly take you by surprise....
I'm not going completely cold turkey. I discovered long ago that whenever I would plan on working out in the evening I would never drink. I would always want to give it 100% in the gym so wouldnt let alcohol tamper with training. Exercise is a great substitute it releases natural anti-depressants, simialr to the release of heroin aparently. Especially long distance running, which is really up lifting and spiritual for myself. So the only place I was seen late Friday night was running round the cemetary 16 times (which translates to 12miles according to my calculations)

Thats 1 thing Scott Harrison can use to his advantage - trainign instead of drinking and I'm sure hes kicked the drink in the build up to fights in the past

As for councilling I have an amazing woman I share everything with and good friends. I'm lucky I can talk all my problems out with them and try to become a positive person instead of aa depressive person.
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