Calzaghe V Kessler: Ongoing Thread Throughout The Night

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 03 Nov 2007, 18:15

I'll say one thing for Joey Vegas, he's boxing Cleverly.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 03 Nov 2007, 18:16

MightyWarrior wrote:I'll say one thing for Joey Vegas, he's boxing Cleverly.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 03 Nov 2007, 18:18

steve689 wrote:Cleverly wide open to that overhand right, would not be surprised to see him tasting the canvas sometime soon.

Yep, he's also carrying his right hand low and has a bad habit of pulling his right hand/arm back as he jabs with the left in an action/reaction style more reminiscent of a martial artist, if you see what I mean. Still, good learning fight for him and good to see that he and his team are willing to put him in bouts like this.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 18:21

I'm not sure Cleverly is the second coming, the fight is there to be won by Joey Vegas. A close decision is only going one way though.

rasputin · Post by **rasputin** » 03 Nov 2007, 18:26

steve689 wrote:I'm not sure Cleverly is the second coming, the fight is there to be won by Joey Vegas. A close decision is only going one way though.

Ye i also think hes no superstar but i have a feeling we know who gets the verdict

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 18:26

Thought Vegas won that 6th, Woodhall gave it even but Vegas was landing the quality, Cleverly a bit more quantity and content to lean in and is missing a lot i think.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 18:30

Needs to utilise the jab a bit more and is throwing some arm punches. Interesting fight, Vegas is a bit puffed out now, shame he didn't have a bit more stamina. Think it's a Cleverly decision.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 18:51

78-75 for the Welshman, not really interested in the end.

Setanta are playing it for the casuals so far, too much chit chat and interviews and not enough fight action

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:04

Wasn't going to subscribe but what with the big fight next week I couldn't resist.

Come on Joe.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:16

Not very enjoyable so far. Cleverly fight did nothing for me, etc. They're mythologising the Calzaghes a fair bit in the build up.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:23

YEAH YEH YEAH!! IT'S CRUNCHTIME, BABY.

THE FIGHT THE SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION HAS BEEN WAITING FOR FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS IS ONE TONIGHT.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:25

Been on the beers pundit? 8)

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:25

calm down, we've got an hour of bad undercard first!

I'm pleased about the main event. super middle is a top class division. they're middleweights but a lot stronger with the extra 8 lbs. now we have maybe the most important fight ever at the weight.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:27

Bellew looked pretty good but his man Wilcox looked like a 30 seconds of the round fighter who could probably have made Welterweight if he found his way to the gymnasium. Enzo up next against an unknown Arab, it's getting exciting

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:33

What a lovely thought

Tim Smith is in the house, dodgy American Boxing writer, says he's here to see how big the crowd is

Not much Kessler footage as yet, only him arriving and a wee bit of his fight with Andrade...about 3 seconds worth.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:33

Secondsout writers favour Calzaghe by 15-2.

http://www.secondsout.com/UK/news.cfm?ccs=228&cs=23147

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:36

steve689 wrote:Secondsout writers favour Calzaghe by 15-2.

http://www.secondsout.com/UK/news.cfm?ccs=228&cs=23147

Hope they're right. If not, I think they need some new writers.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:37

They showed Kessler walking into the arena.

I have to say, this show is robbing the sense of occasion because of all the Joe cheerleading and - I hate this word - "nuthugging".

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:39

I'm surprised at the angle Setanta have adopted. Wrong or right it's very pro Calzaghe, i thought it would be talking up the bout as a world class spectacle but it's more of a Calzaghe celebration of his long reign.

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:41

MightyWarrior wrote:I'll say one thing for Joey Vegas, he's boxing Cleverly.

MW's been holding that one back til Cleverley boxed on the biggest stage for maximum audience..........hey, I love it !

wot about this Setanta show......do Baxters soups think they have found a niche market in boxing enthusiasts, bloody hell i've seen the ad 26 times and counting................but unfortunately no Kessler.

I have seen about 10 seconds of Kessler in my life but I'm unashamedly telling anyone who'll listen on here that Joe will win.........if he loses, i'm going into hiding so people like Autobarn don't torture me.
Course it's extremely unlikely. :P

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:44

steve689 wrote:I'm surprised at the angle Setanta have adopted. Wrong or right it's very pro Calzaghe, i thought it would be talking up the bout as a world class spectacle but it's more of a Calzaghe celebration of his long reign.

definitely.

The father/son is a match made in heaven.

Calzaghe is a great counter puncher more than anything else.

Calzaghe's pressure etc

Kessler won't be a problem (so says Enzo, who trains nothing but winners).

Success breeds success (the Enzo team).

Decade of dominance.

Kessler's not had the experience.

Even Clinton is singing Joe's praises. The Clinton who told Joe to wait in line. Who had Joe pull out of a fight...

Good job they interviewed Claude, who basically said that Kessler has been downplayed because he's not from a big boxing country.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:44

Bunce is pretty much dictating the show really, Clinton looks shellshocked and can't get a word in. And Bunce is a BIG Calzaghe fan obviously. Would have been good to get a Danish newspaper or TV boxing man in the studio as well.

I reckon the reason Enzo Calzaghe is generaly so unpopular with the media is that he has a HUGE ego - and rightly so - but NO sense of humour at all - at least in interviews. And he's very over bearing and boastful.

Deserves massive credit for what's he's done, but he's right: he doesn't get it.

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:45

i am finding the addition of Clinton Woods very refreshing, bit like Richie Woodhall in that here is a quality Brit boxer, very down to Earth, giving us all a great insight.

if you ignore the slightly uncomfortable posture and style but the host who used to be on Sky does a great job of carrying him along.........think it's hilarious whenever Woods is asked a question if he isn't right there with the answer the "chap who used to be on Sky" just jumps straight on him with another.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:45

steve689 wrote:I'm surprised at the angle Setanta have adopted. Wrong or right it's very pro Calzaghe, i thought it would be talking up the bout as a world class spectacle but it's more of a Calzaghe celebration of his long reign.

Purely speculation on my part, but aside from the obvious partisanship you'd expect, I wonder if some of that is driven because of purchasing the Calzaghe footage and feeling they have to derive maximum benefit from it - doesn't look like they've invested in any Kessler footage that's for sure!

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Nov 2007, 19:47

Bunce even said "If Joe wins Enzo...and hopefully he does"

They could have drafted in Per Ake Persson from Boxing News or even our very own Mr. Sorensen aka Freiheit!