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sg1985 wrote:

danieljenkins wrote:i dislike him because he dont know anything about boxing he fought if he beat pacman he would of been p4p get a grip theres at least 20 people who are much better than him

20 people being better than doesn't make a difference. I agree he wouldn't be number 1 but he would have gone top 5 if he beat pacman.

how dont 20 other fighters being better dont make a differnce ?

J wrote:Ive got a really good idea DG, why dont you join a boxing website and let everyone know how you feel about hatton and witter, over and over and over and over and over again. Keep banging on for months nay, years and years and years til everyone is bored pissless with the whole conversation.

Oh you already have.

danieljenkins wrote:i dislike him because he dont know anything about boxing he fought if he beat pacman he would of been p4p get a grip theres at least 20 people who are much better than him

haha, how can you take the piss out of someone when you cannot even spell thought

sg1985 wrote:

opticald wrote: on whos list??

who was number 2 then?

opticald, Do you fancy replying? You laughed at what I said so it's only fair you give your opinion.

Asterix wrote:

sg1985 wrote:

opticald wrote: on whos list??

who was number 2 then?

opticald, Do you fancy replying? You laughed at what I said so it's only fair you give your opinion.

First of all, Bradley beats the number two by a domination in his hometown, knocking him down in the process. Magignaggi stinks out the joint against Ndou (who beat him the first time but got jobbed) and gets the decision in an absolute non event.

And in your opinion Malignaggi should be rated higher than the man who dominated the number 2? Not how it works for me pal. bradley was ahead of him for one. Also i would personally have definitely had Kotelnik ahead of him, as well as Holt, Torres and Urango (I accept the last 3 are debatable but in terms of who beats who, I think they all take Maglinaggi).

So, Bradley and Kotelnik are definitely ahead of him for one. The other 3 I would have put ahead of him as well as Ngoudjo, who got robbed against Malignaggi if you watch that fight.

Just my opinion mate.

I agree that Ngoudjo deserved the win. That's not how it works, though. The winner goes up, the loser goes down.

Bradley didn't dominate Witter. It was a competitive fight.

And having Holt, Torres and Urango above Malignaggi just before he fought Hatton? I don't think any reputable boxing sites did that. No, Malignaggi was either 2nd or 3rd with all of them, to my knowledge. Like it or not.

Asterix wrote:I agree that Ngoudjo deserved the win. That's not how it works, though. The winner goes up, the loser goes down.

lewis drew with Holyfield but we didn't take that result seriously did we?

Asterix wrote: Bradley didn't dominate Witter. It was a competitive fight.

And having Holt, Torres and Urango above Malignaggi just before he fought Hatton? I don't think any reputable boxing sites did that. No, Malignaggi was either 2nd or 3rd with all of them, to my knowledge. Like it or not.

Witter was beaten up in the fight imo. I am a big Witter fan but he took a hiding in that fight and got well beaten. And if Malignaggi didn't get a gift (as you admit he did), nobody would have had him anywhere near the top 2 in the ratings. So it's a bit silly to suggest he was so highly rated in the division, therefore it's a great win for Hatton. I subscribe to realistic thinking and to my mind, even Ngoudjo was more deserving of a fight than malignaggi.

Seriously, Opticad - was that a typo or did you think Ndou should have had the decision in the FIRST fight with Paulie???

Let me get this right, you thought Lovemore Ndou beat Maliginaggi in fight 1?????

stujones wrote:Seriously, Opticad - was that a typo or did you think Ndou should have had the decision in the FIRST fight with Paulie???

Let me get this right, you thought Lovemore Ndou beat Maliginaggi in fight 1?????

HERMAN NGOUJO.

opticald wrote:

stujones wrote:Seriously, Opticad - was that a typo or did you think Ndou should have had the decision in the FIRST fight with Paulie???

Let me get this right, you thought Lovemore Ndou beat Maliginaggi in fight 1?????

HERMAN NGOUJO.

Fair enough - your typo makes it sound like Ndou

!First of all, Bradley beats the number two by a domination in his hometown, knocking him down in the process. Magignaggi stinks out the joint against Ndou (who beat him the first time but got jobbed) and gets the decision in an absolute non event.!

stujones wrote:

opticald wrote:

stujones wrote:Seriously, Opticad - was that a typo or did you think Ndou should have had the decision in the FIRST fight with Paulie???

Let me get this right, you thought Lovemore Ndou beat Maliginaggi in fight 1?????

HERMAN NGOUJO.

Fair enough - your typo makes it sound like Ndou

!First of all, Bradley beats the number two by a domination in his hometown, knocking him down in the process. Magignaggi stinks out the joint against Ndou (who beat him the first time but got jobbed) and gets the decision in an absolute non event.!

Ooops, I got mixed up. i gave malignaggi both ndou fights, i don't remember much about the first one but i think it was a pretty easy fight for malignaggi because i remember criticising him for taking a rematch and then being surprised by his struggle in the rematch. ngoujo beat him though and got robbed.

Malignaggi had no choice... rematch clause. First one he completely shut out Ndou - flooring him twice I think, one judge had it 120-106... which is why I thought it was a strange comment.

I agree, thought he won the rematch with Ndou... close but for sure (would have been more convincing if it wasn't for the hair!!!) - Njoudjo won on my card vs him though.

On a side note about Hattons opponents... surely Castillo must have been considered high in the Light Weter ranking. I thought he definately beat Herman.

stujones wrote:Malignaggi had no choice... rematch clause. First one he completely shut out Ndou - flooring him twice I think, one judge had it 120-106... which is why I thought it was a strange comment.

I agree, thought he won the rematch with Ndou... close but for sure (would have been more convincing if it wasn't for the hair!!!) - Njoudjo won on my card vs him though.

On a side note about Hattons opponents... surely Castillo must have been considered high in the Light Weter ranking. I thought he definately beat Herman.

We could debate that. I thought Castillo looked awful against Ngoujo and agreed with the judge who gave it to Herman.

Asterix wrote:OK, got it.

http://web.archive.org/web/200802112148 ... ings2.html (5 Feb 08)

Those ratings have Witter as #2 and Malignaggi as #3. 3 months later Witter loses to Bradley and Malignaggi beats N'Dou. No doubt they would swap places in May. Hatton fights Malignaggi in November when he's #2. Simples.

Hatton had lined up the Mallignaggi fight before Witter lost to Bradley. Whether Junior beat or lost to Bradley Hatton was always going to be fighting Paulie in his fight after Lazcano

I think its the same for all working class people, if they become wealthy. They tend to get more stick than well off middle class people who have always had money who then become wealthy. Hatton is in a no win situation, whatever he says. Team Hatton is another matter and I am not sure if Ricky has too much say in the decisions made by them. Ricky himself has been good for the sport and the only thing I have against him was his refusal to fight Witter when almost all his fans wanted the fight to happen.

Asterix wrote:OK, got it.

http://web.archive.org/web/200802112148 ... ings2.html (5 Feb 08)

Those ratings have Witter as #2 and Malignaggi as #3. 3 months later Witter loses to Bradley and Malignaggi beats N'Dou. No doubt they would swap places in May. Hatton fights Malignaggi in November when he's #2. Simples.

Are you a meercat?

Yes. I am.

I am seriously stunned at the dislike for Hatton.

Yeah some of his team in my opinion need to take a look at themselves - but as for Ricky Hatton he has seriously done an immense amount for British Boxing.

Boxing fans and yep I know I have been one of them - are perhaps the most critical fans we have in this country - it seems all of us will never be happy.

i think he is great, given me some off the best nights of my life with mates both at the shows and parties at mine. being at the hatton zoo fight was simply the best sporting event ive ever seen been to, and ive been to a few was at the oval test as well for 3 days of the the ashes, 2005 the best live sports viewing ill ever have in my life.

THANKS RICKY



AS UNFASHIONABLE AS THAT IS.

J wrote:i think he is great, given me some off the best nights of my life with mates both at the shows and parties at mine. being at the hatton zoo fight was simply the best sporting event ive ever seen been to, and ive been to a few was at the oval test as well for 3 days of the the ashes, 2005 the best live sports viewing ill ever have in my life.

THANKS RICKY



AS UNFASHIONABLE AS THAT IS.

I also want to thank Ricky.

He truely gave me two great nights of boxing. The first was when he got a complete hiding from Mayweather and KO'd embarrassingly. The second was then he was absolutely bombed into orbit by Pacman and lay in a heap in the ring.

I want to thank Ricky for those moments. I have rewatched them many times and I really cherish them.

opticald,

You've got something wrong with you.

Opticald is an old friend of ours!!! - 1 guess who it is!!! ;;-)

opticald wrote:

J wrote:i think he is great, given me some off the best nights of my life with mates both at the shows and parties at mine. being at the hatton zoo fight was simply the best sporting event ive ever seen been to, and ive been to a few was at the oval test as well for 3 days of the the ashes, 2005 the best live sports viewing ill ever have in my life.

THANKS RICKY



AS UNFASHIONABLE AS THAT IS.

I also want to thank Ricky.

He truely gave me two great nights of boxing. The first was when he got a complete hiding from Mayweather and KO'd embarrassingly. The second was then he was absolutely bombed into orbit by Pacman and lay in a heap in the ring.

I want to thank Ricky for those moments. I have rewatched them many times and I really cherish them.

amongst genuine fans, this kind of form will only cost you respect and credibility......i certainly won't take you seriously again.

Spud wrote:Opticald is an old friend of ours!!! - 1 guess who it is!!! ;;-)

Search, lirva, etc. -- I suspected it was. It would be nice to have confirmation from a mod (and then a prompt ban).

I'll bet you £1000 it's Lirva.