Fury V McDermott, disgusting! (Super-Merged)

[Asterix]

I'm glad to read this topic. I saw the fight live and was really, really surprised when O'Connor raised Fury's arm. McDermott was getting the better of him for most of the rounds. Everyone around me agreed McDermott must be a few rounds ahead going into the final round.

Colour me disgusted.

[jBacca]

Now that he’s popped his 10 round cherry I think Fury would knockout McDermott in the rematch, did you notice in round 10 how if it went for another 2 rounds a tired Fury would have gone for broke?

What?

[neil hibbert]

suppose we have the next hspress post to look forward 2 now!

[Asterix]

I would also like to touch on something else that I found very disappointing, and this was to do with the promotion. There weren't enough security people!

During the Fury-McDermott fight a guy threw a programme from one side of the ring to the other. I don't know if he was trying to hit the boxers or what. A security guy had words with him, but didn't do anything. The problem? The guy causing the trouble was bigger than the security guards, so I guess they didn't want to mess with him.

Then what happens? A guy in the crowd who was not happy with the incident must have shouted at them or something. So this new guy and the other guy's friend are now inviting each other over for a fight. Thankfully no-one moves.

Oh, I'm not finished yet.

When the main fight had concluded some guys in front of us quickly ran down the steps and smashed through the fire escape door. As we're queueing to get out, we hear some guys (Fury fans) saying that they ran from them. So basically, there are two factions at war.

Nope, not finished yet.

The Fury fans find someone and one of them proceeds to attack him. My brother, my Mum, her boyfriend and myself are all jammed in as there's only one exit. The guys fighting got dangerously close to my Mum, who was in front of me. Thankfully the guy being attacked escaped and we were able to get out.

As we're driving out loads of police arrive. Bit bloody late, don'tcha think?

I'm very disappointed. I won't be taking my Mum along again. Too dangerous.

[n1ebf]

Now that he’s popped his 10 round cherry I think Fury would knockout McDermott in the rematch, did you notice in round 10 how if it went for another 2 rounds a tired Fury would have gone for broke?

What?

I just thought bar his stamina he would have forced the stoppage i.e. this will reflect in the immediate rematch.

it sounded a daft comment in the first place then you support it by saying "bar his stamina he would have knocked Mcdermott out".....Genuinely confused by that.

Fury had gassed himself and was there for the taking from 7 onwards but John didn't quite have the oxygen and composure to take him out........as soon as I saw the weigh-in and realised John wouldn't need a ladder to chin him I was all for Mcdermott.

Fury, fair play to him, 1st 10 rounder and that, but he resembled a Walrus when he did that resting on him kind of thing he kept doing, I found it quite embarrassing.......this guy was supposedly going to "step on" "Mcmuffin".....his Daddio went on record saying his son would have smashed George Foreman and is 5 times better than anybody in the world right now. A pair of cowboy sh*t talkers IMO, made what happened tonight pretty embarrassing. If it wasn't for all the jive, I wouldn't be so harsh....

what can we say to be positive?..........at least his shorts stayed up tonight.

[exittored]

He should and would beat McDermott in the rematch, but I’d keep him away from the likes of Williams/Sexton/Rogan for another 5 fights.

Agreed

the only way Fury can make ammends is to give McDermott an immediate rematch and this time beat him in convincing fashion.

One thing i'd also like to add is that when McDermott got hit in the 9th and 10th rds he kept turning his back. Tyson was more than within his rights to hit him from the side rather than O'Connor stopping the action for Mac to turn around.

[n1ebf]

I'm very disappointed. I won't be taking my Mum along again. Too dangerous.

bit disappointing hey Asterix?
Don't blame you, at least you all got out safely.
Morons will be morons, to them there will be some kind of kudos/ respect to have been gained from the whole thing. T*ssers, they generally aren't much use without their mates behind 'em.

[Asterix]

I'm very disappointed. I won't be taking my Mum along again. Too dangerous.

bit disappointing hey Asterix?
Don't blame you, at least you all got out safely.
Morons will be morons, to them there will be some kind of kudos/ respect to have been gained from the whole thing. T*ssers, they generally aren't much use without their mates behind 'em.

The guy who started the fight was in his late thirties/early fourties I'd say, and he wasn't in shape. The problem is that there's a whole group of them. It makes it a bit hard to protect those who are vulnerable (and there were some children in the queue as well!) I'm just glad it ended quickly and no weapons were involved. And actually, the police responded very quickly. The problem really was that there weren't enough security and they had no control. They should have kicked out the initial trouble starter straight away, and been ready to call the police if his friends got roudy.

[n1ebf]

been there bought the tee-shirt seen me own bro's title fight called off due to cowardly thugs and not enough security at the event. Ten weeks training down the toilet, more if you count the other lad.
Sure, Police can get there after 20 minutes......(although on that occasion the cop shop was only accross the road, explain that one?) .....thing is if order is not restored within say, 4 to 5 miuntes, a bout will likely be called off.
Let's be honest, the police are not really interested in getting to the disturbance quickly enough to allow the fight to continue, their priority is just eventually bringing it under control.

[boxerbob]

lets remember that tyson fury is a 7 fight novice who took a very dangerous fight to prove that he is for real and wants to be tested.

mcdermott has fought williams , krence , skelton , gammer and reid..........please take a look at these guys record when they fought mcdermott !!!!

not one of them were anywhere near a 7 fight novice

we always moan that our prospects dont get tested enough and when they do they fall short , well fury got tested tonight against a guy he could have fought if he had another 10 fights under his belt.

fury will have learned so much form this early test , a whole lot more than he did in his his previous 7 fights , he started well expecting the early knockout , he then lost control by being shocked that mcdermott could take his punches , he did finish well though proving that he has heart and a bit of stamina.

as mentioned on a earlier thread , i watched the fight on the net , it was a very good stream , i thought fury won 96-94 the ref though should be demoted as his scorecard was terrible.

there should be a rematch , not in 6 months + , but in thier next fight.

i just feel that all the crap been said on here is so unjust , who did calzaghe , hatton , khan all fight in thier 8th fight ????

certainly not a guy in mcdermotts caliber.

ps: the rematch will tell us even more about fury , how he handles a rematch for instance , will he improve his skills and stamina and can he do a better job???.

[n1ebf]

lets remember that tyson fury is a 7 fight novice who took a very dangerous fight to prove that he is for real and wants to be tested.

mcdermott has fought williams , krence , skelton , gammer and reid..........please take a look at these guys record when they fought mcdermott !!!!

not one of them were anywhere near a 7 fight novice

we always moan that our prospects dont get tested enough and when they do they fall short , well fury got tested tonight against a guy he could have fought if he had another 10 fights under his belt.

fury will have learned so much form this early test , a whole lot more than he did in his his previous 7 fights , he started well expecting the early knockout , he then lost control by being shocked that mcdermott could take his punches , he did finish well though proving that he has heart and a bit of stamina.

as mentioned on a earlier thread , i watched the fight on the net , it was a very good stream , i thought fury won 96-94 the ref though should be demoted as his scorecard was terrible.

there should be a rematch , not in 6 months + , but in thier next fight.

i just feel that all the crap been said on here is so unjust , who did calzaghe , hatton , khan all fight in thier 8th fight ????

certainly not a guy in mcdermotts caliber.

ps: the rematch will tell us even more about fury , how he handles a rematch for instance , will he improve his skills and stamina and can he do a better job???.

there are LESS people to have matches with in the extremes of the divisions such as Heavyweight/ Flyweight, for one.

For 2, Fury can't crack, and if he thinks he's handled better men than John over 10 round spars and come out on top then he's talking crap. I just think they are a cowboy outfit.....his Dad said he would have smashed up George Foreman and that he was 5 times better than ayone else in the world right now.......then that gets served up....he was exhausted from round 6 or 7 on and leaning on John like a hibernating Walrus.
Usually I'd give a novice the benefit , but wasn't the gobby Manc going to "step on" the Essex "McMuffin"??

[exittored]

WELL SAID

O' Connors scorecard was a JOKE...We all agree on that!

I scored the fight 6-4 to Fury the first time but on 2nd viewing i saw it 5-5.

I could see 6-4 Macdermott but anything more than that would have been unjust to Fury.

Also as i mentioned earlier MAC kept turning his back after being hit with some big shots, Tyson should have been allowed to carry on and hit him rather than O'Connor having to keep stopping the fight and letting Mac turnaround which took away any advantages.

[Des1]

lets remember that tyson fury is a 7 fight novice who took a very dangerous fight to prove that he is for real and wants to be tested.

mcdermott has fought williams , krence , skelton , gammer and reid..........please take a look at these guys record when they fought mcdermott !!!!

not one of them were anywhere near a 7 fight novice

we always moan that our prospects dont get tested enough and when they do they fall short , well fury got tested tonight against a guy he could have fought if he had another 10 fights under his belt.

fury will have learned so much form this early test , a whole lot more than he did in his his previous 7 fights , he started well expecting the early knockout , he then lost control by being shocked that mcdermott could take his punches , he did finish well though proving that he has heart and a bit of stamina.

as mentioned on a earlier thread , i watched the fight on the net , it was a very good stream , i thought fury won 96-94 the ref though should be demoted as his scorecard was terrible.

there should be a rematch , not in 6 months + , but in thier next fight.

i just feel that all the crap been said on here is so unjust , who did calzaghe , hatton , khan all fight in thier 8th fight ????

certainly not a guy in mcdermotts caliber.

ps: the rematch will tell us even more about fury , how he handles a rematch for instance , will he improve his skills and stamina and can he do a better job???.

Fury never won that fight, to score it like you did I can only guess you had bad net connection because your judgement cant possibly be as bad as that ref's!

[boxerbob]

i thought fury won , the refs score was a disgrace , to only give mcdermott 2 rounds was shocking

i thought furys workrate was better , it showed on the punch stats that he was much busier.

the fight was very close , it was only furys last 2 rounds that won it for him , 5-5 or 95-95 would have been fair , i just didnt think mcdermott threw enough leather

i will watch the fight again but as mentioned i watched it on a very good full sized stream.

ps: did anyone think jim watt was very pro mcdermott and anti - fury??? , seemed that for most of teh fight he was only commenting on the punch that mcdermott landed , it was only in the last 2 rounds that he started complimenting some of furys work.

found it suprising as watt is usually very good and very neutral in his judgements

[Abbo]

A couple of thoughts I had watching Fury last night:

1) Did he have a broken nose / breathing issues?

2) He is extremely inaccurate with every shot bar his jab when fighting a guy who can get inside

3) Eats left hooks

Everything else I already knew: flashy combos, lack of pop etc

[tht6]

Lets get Pricey back to K O this easy to hit bluffer .

[bynino]

just goes to show you can be a fat bastard and still compete at a good level. Mcdermott just kept coming, he was walking through tyson's right hands. Fury needs to learn how to create distance,because some of his punches were just looping over mcdermotts head. And once mcdermott got in close,Fury had no answer!!

[Max Molyneux]

See he lost when he finally fought an opponent who fought back. None of his first 7 fought back and just gave him the win before McDermott.

[earsjohn]

lets remember that tyson fury is a 7 fight novice who took a very dangerous fight to prove that he is for real and wants to be tested.

mcdermott has fought williams , krence , skelton , gammer and reid..........please take a look at these guys record when they fought mcdermott !!!!

not one of them were anywhere near a 7 fight novice

we always moan that our prospects dont get tested enough and when they do they fall short , well fury got tested tonight against a guy he could have fought if he had another 10 fights under his belt.

fury will have learned so much form this early test , a whole lot more than he did in his his previous 7 fights , he started well expecting the early knockout , he then lost control by being shocked that mcdermott could take his punches , he did finish well though proving that he has heart and a bit of stamina.

as mentioned on a earlier thread , i watched the fight on the net , it was a very good stream , i thought fury won 96-94 the ref though should be demoted as his scorecard was terrible.

there should be a rematch , not in 6 months + , but in thier next fight.

i just feel that all the crap been said on here is so unjust , who did calzaghe , hatton , khan all fight in thier 8th fight ????

certainly not a guy in mcdermotts caliber.

ps: the rematch will tell us even more about fury , how he handles a rematch for instance , will he improve his skills and stamina and can he do a better job???.

there are LESS people to have matches with in the extremes of the divisions such as Heavyweight/ Flyweight, for one.

For 2, Fury can't crack, and if he thinks he's handled better men than John over 10 round spars and come out on top then he's talking crap. I just think they are a cowboy outfit.....his Dad said he would have smashed up George Foreman and that he was 5 times better than ayone else in the world right now.......then that gets served up....he was exhausted from round 6 or 7 on and leaning on John like a hibernating Walrus.
Usually I'd give a novice the benefit , but wasn't the gobby Manc going to "step on" the Essex "McMuffin"??

Boxer in running his mouth off to promote a fight shocker!!!! If he had kept his mouth shut, he wouldn't have been in this fight in only his 8th pro contest, at the age of 21. And he wouldn't have generated the level of interest that is unprecedented (in recent years) for an English title fight. The number of comments on this forum are testament to that.

Jees - there needs to be some perspective here - on the one hand everyone is bemoaning the state of the Boxing industry in this country and how the TV companies are not being supportive enough and then when someone comes along and generates some publicity, the b1tching starts! As for his comments after the fight, I thought he was spot on - I don't remember a single fighter who, having had their arm raised, would have claimed to have been lucky in the immediate aftermath. It's not Tyson's fault that the fight was scored so ineptly, but he's hardly going to say "No thanks Tel, I appreciate your view but McDermott probably actually won the fight." He's a professional sportsman for f's sake. You wouldn't get Alex Ferguson declining the points after scraping a 1-0 win following a goal that should have been disallowed.

FWIW, i thought Mcdermott was a clear winner, but was impressed with Fury's ability to take a shot. Not once do I recall him being hurt by John. His defence needs to improve and he needs to learn how to pick his punches, but there's very few 8-fight pros in the world that you can't say that about.

[junior pepa seed]

Big john may has well have had his shorts pulled down in the middle of the ring and received a smack on the lips first off terry before he f@?!ed him.....unreal

[bynino]

There is no way fury won that fight. I mean Mcdermott turning away may have had something to do with it. But that was 2 rounds! I had The fight the same as haye, Mcdermott at least 4 rounds up and that was being kind to Tyson. The commentator gave a hint as to what would happen by saying "mcdermott has never won a fight with oconnor as a referee". But yeah it was a tough fight to take on as a 7 fight novice, and is very far away from being a world better. Davey price must be chomping at the bit now though!!

[earsjohn]

Hennessy has proved again he makes poor matches, perhaps he just over estimates his fighters.

Interesting viewpoint. Disregarding the decision, I thought it was a great match up. 10 entertaining rounds and a great deal of public interest, sold out venue, etc for an English Title fight. The number comments on here indicates how many people were interested (there have been far bigger robberies that have generated less comment on these boards).

He may make risky matches, but surely matchmaking is about putting on a good fight and not just ensuring that your guy wins? Or maybe we've all just become so used to one-sided mismatches being sold as good learning fights. It may be true too...until you come across a heavy handed Colombian.

[earsjohn]

who the feck has voted for tyson winning the fight on the poll..... is terry a member of boxrec now?

i dont even think his dad thinks he won

Exittored probably did. He's a big Tyson Fury fan. No problem with that, but come on. How can anyone think Fury won that fight!?

Maybe Terry O'Connor posts on here under an alias....

[rhino222]

i have slagged big john off during the fight build up but i now take my hat off to him, he boxed really well considering the physical advantages fury had.

i had it to mac-d by one round, i thought he was very unfortunate not to get the verdict, but by 6 rounds...that is ridiculous.

[FIGHTFANs]

Think Frank Maloney will be up in front of the board,for SPEAKING the truth fair play to him ........ thought big John was up 3 rounds, the ref was a disgraceful,The board must order a rematch