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Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 06 Jan 2010, 01:52
by dberry
harshfriller wrote:Brute wrote:harshfriller wrote:Paul Briggs also TKOed him,
he looked wobbely everytime Clenshaw landed clean
very chinny
Briggs was a light heavyweight.
So?? he still got TKOed,
Kariz was also a LHW
Briggs had a K.O. record of 18 in 26 wins including stoppages against tough opponents such as Tasis Petridis, Glen Kelly and Adrian Bellan as well as dropping Gurkan Ozkan and Thomaz Adamek.
I think Briggs is a poor example to use when you are trying to demonstrate a "chinny" fighter, the pounch that Briggs stopped Kariuki with would have stopped a rampaging bull.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 06 Jan 2010, 04:27
by Hounddawg
I think your missing the point, or you get what we're saying and just don't agree...that's ok, but on monday night you had to see Kariz get wobbled at least 3 times with your own eyes right? Regardless of who he got knocked out by he still got knocked out..and the last time i looked you don't get a reprieve for being knocked out by Paul Briggs and the likes. A chin is a chin and if it's already been cracked 4 times it's not as though it gets better right?
I'm not saying the man can't fight, I just don't think he's even top 3 Australia, let alone world class.
Clenshaw is not really considered a power puncher, more of a blood and guts fighter and he managed to find the spot quite a few times.
Honestly you could make an argument that Josh won that fight.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 06 Jan 2010, 06:08
by caveman
agree with u houndawg & i think junior is better than both
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 06 Jan 2010, 15:32
by 'Frilla
dberry wrote:harshfriller wrote:Brute wrote:
Briggs was a light heavyweight.
So?? he still got TKOed,
Kariz was also a LHW
Briggs had a K.O. record of 18 in 26 wins including stoppages against tough opponents such as Tasis Petridis, Glen Kelly and Adrian Bellan as well as dropping Gurkan Ozkan and Thomaz Adamek.
I think Briggs is a poor example to use when you are trying to demonstrate a "chinny" fighter, the pounch that Briggs stopped Kariuki with would have stopped a rampaging bull.
Yea ur right, Briggs is a poor example to define someone who is "chinny", i just wanted to mention his win over Kariz, Clenshaw was the one i was actually meaning about, IF u saw the fight then u would know that anyone with eyes wouldve noticed how weak Karizs chin is, and yet Clenshaw aint even known for power shots or being a power fighter, we can trade all day man, but its NOT gonna change the fact that Karizs chin is weak, its soft, but i do believe that he has a GREAT chance to win the Contender series, the only way he loses to someone like Wood is by K.O or stoppagge
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 06 Jan 2010, 23:43
by Brute
harshfriller wrote:Brute wrote:harshfriller wrote:Paul Briggs also TKOed him,
he looked wobbely everytime Clenshaw landed clean
very chinny
Briggs was a light heavyweight.
So?? he still got TKOed,
Kariz was also a LHW
He isn't now.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 07 Jan 2010, 01:04
by 'Frilla
Brute wrote:harshfriller wrote:Brute wrote:
Briggs was a light heavyweight.
So?? he still got TKOed,
Kariz
was also a LHW
He isn't now.
the KEY word was highlighted just in case u missed it

Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 02:31
by Brute
harshfriller wrote:Brute wrote:harshfriller wrote:
So?? he still got TKOed,
Kariz was also a LHW
He isn't now.
the KEY word was highlighted just in case u missed it

He is doing well as a super middleweight. Light heavyweight was obviously a division too far. Most fighters look wobbly when Clenshaw hits them. He is no mug and packs a whallop. The difference was Kariuki did not go down.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 07:48
by 'Frilla
the difference is, Clenshaw is not a big hitter, and yet Kariz was wobbeled a couple of times from him, kariz is NOT a fighter with a good Chin, NO doubt
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 13:30
by smelodies
I would have given it to oganov, victor must have hit him so hard that he thought he was in a rugby match.
I think oganov is the stronger contender, their power looked about the same, oganov has a stronger chin and a good guard, he doesn't need to hold and tackle to survive, garth is faster that is about it.
I think oganov would have a better chance againts kariz and mundine.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 20:20
by Brute
Kariuki knocked Angelo out when they fought. Oganov did not.
Kariuki has won his last six fights. Current form is good form.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 20:26
by Hounddawg
Brute wrote:Kariuki knocked Angelo out when they fought. Oganov did not.
Kariuki has won his last six fights. Current form is good form.
Yeah but Oganov, had Sonni gone with seconds to go in a 5 round fight, and it took Kariz 9 rounds.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 20:27
by Hounddawg
smelodies wrote:I would have given it to oganov, victor must have hit him so hard that he thought he was in a rugby match.
I think oganov is the stronger contender, their power looked about the same, oganov has a stronger chin and a good guard, he doesn't need to hold and tackle to survive, garth is faster that is about it.
I think oganov would have a better chance againts kariz and mundine.
Did you see the Jnr vs Oganov fight Smelodies?
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 20:29
by 'Frilla
Brute wrote:Kariuki knocked Angelo out when they fought. Oganov did not.
Kariuki has won his last six fights. Current form is good form.
Kariz had a stoppage win over Sonni
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 20:30
by 'Frilla
Hounddawg wrote:smelodies wrote:I would have given it to oganov, victor must have hit him so hard that he thought he was in a rugby match.
I think oganov is the stronger contender, their power looked about the same, oganov has a stronger chin and a good guard, he doesn't need to hold and tackle to survive, garth is faster that is about it.
I think oganov would have a better chance againts kariz and mundine.
Did you see the Jnr vs Oganov fight Smelodies?
Junior won that fight no doubt about it
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 20:32
by Brute
Talipeau fights Hamden on Monday night. If he wins that he can give cheek.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 08 Jan 2010, 21:59
by 'Frilla
Brute wrote:Talipeau fights Hamden on Monday night. If he wins that he can give cheek.
Talipeau should win, well i hope so, Hamden needs to realise that he is done and ready to retire, saying that i was really impressed with Naders performance aganist Kariz
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 09 Jan 2010, 19:52
by Marlin
How much will be shown on The Contender on Fox 8? Just the Final or will the Junior fight be shown also seeing as it is a "Contender", or at least contender inspired, fight?
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 00:41
by smelodies
I think either he knocks wood out or wood knocks him out.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 05:30
by 'Frilla
ive got Kariz winning via UD
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 07:35
by caveman
not interested in any the card cept nader & junior. rest of card is so predictable as is all of mundines circus. will wait for the paper
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 12:10
by AntonS
Marlin wrote:How much will be shown on The Contender on Fox 8? Just the Final or will the Junior fight be shown also seeing as it is a "Contender", or at least contender inspired, fight?
I think Junior & Nader will be shown - tagged Contender series grudge match.
It would been Oganov vs. Clenshaw, being losers in semis, but Oganov got the shites & told them to get stuffed.
Kariuki & Clenshaw had to wait for an hour or so, while the crew repaired damage caused by Oganov.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 17:18
by Marlin
Good to hear about the Junior fight.
Who did more damage Oganov or Hamdan? I wouldn't have argue if both of them got some kind of fine or suspension after their carry one, more so Hamdan but Oganov as well...
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 17:39
by AntonS
Marlin wrote:Good to hear about the Junior fight.
Who did more damage Oganov or Hamdan? I wouldn't have argue if both of them got some kind of fine or suspension after their carry one, more so Hamdan but Oganov as well...
I think Nader's & his followers carry on was scripted. Oganov caused damage to dressing room walls & what have you.
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 20:52
by caveman
spoilt little boys
Re: OZ Contender Series results & video links to date
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 22:43
by belta53
A couple of questions for all you fans of this series (I have been watching up until semi final stage but am now out of Australia). How are the cuts to the eyebrows of Garth Wood?, will they affect the final? The last fight I saw was his quarter final and they were an issue there. Also what happens if the fight is a draw after 7 rounds? 7 rounds seems a strange number to me, I thought the US contender finals were over 8 rounds.
Any replies would be most appreciated.