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Counter-puncher wrote:Gonzalez certainly talked a good fight....

Didn't he ever... his fight with Bowe was probably the best example for me of how one fighter had remained in amateur mode while the other had embraced the pro style. Bowe made Gonzalez look utterly inept.

another enjoyable read this month, gave me an excuse not to go out in the cold on saturday

do the repeat subscribers get the mug this year??

freddydoesdallas wrote:another enjoyable read this month, gave me an excuse not to go out in the cold on saturday

do the repeat subscribers get the mug this year??

If you ask for one when you ring Freddy - there's a stack of the buggers in the office, want to get rid of em!

Glyn Leach wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:another enjoyable read this month, gave me an excuse not to go out in the cold on saturday

do the repeat subscribers get the mug this year??

If you ask for one when you ring Freddy - there's a stack of the buggers in the office, want to get rid of em!

Cheers Glyn, will do.

I've just ordered a years sub on the BM website, and have requested the free offer of a Jose Luis Gonzalez mug with it too.

MightyWarrior wrote:I've just ordered a years sub on the BM website, and have requested the free offer of a Jose Luis Gonzalez mug with it too.

Not sure if that qualifies as two mugs warrior, I will investigate

Glyn Leach wrote:

Matt W wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:But we have less than glorious moments in our pasts, myself included

Jorge Luis Gonzalez

Sod off Matt! It ain't over til it's over and while JLG still breathes I will never lose the faith!

The sad thing is in today's heavyweight division he could probably land a shot at one of the Klitschkos (after fighting an eliminator against Ray Austin of course). You could yet prove us all wrong Glyn

Matt W wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:

Matt W wrote: Jorge Luis Gonzalez

Sod off Matt! It ain't over til it's over and while JLG still breathes I will never lose the faith!

The sad thing is in today's heavyweight division he could probably land a shot at one of the Klitschkos (after fighting an eliminator against Ray Austin of course). You could yet prove us all wrong Glyn

Know what - and this is really sad - I was just imagining a Wlad-Gonzalez fight. Think I need a break ...

Glyn Leach wrote:

Matt W wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote: Sod off Matt! It ain't over til it's over and while JLG still breathes I will never lose the faith!

The sad thing is in today's heavyweight division he could probably land a shot at one of the Klitschkos (after fighting an eliminator against Ray Austin of course). You could yet prove us all wrong Glyn

Know what - and this is really sad - I was just imagining a Wlad-Gonzalez fight. Think I need a break ...

As long as you weren't imagining Gonzalez winning

Matt W wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:

Matt W wrote: The sad thing is in today's heavyweight division he could probably land a shot at one of the Klitschkos (after fighting an eliminator against Ray Austin of course). You could yet prove us all wrong Glyn

Know what - and this is really sad - I was just imagining a Wlad-Gonzalez fight. Think I need a break ...

As long as you weren't imagining Gonzalez winning

I'm saying nothing.

Great read lads - well done.
One question on the rankings - how come some have Irish fighters and some don't?
Eg Paul Hyland's there in Super Bantam, Andy Murray isn't in Lightweight....
Unless Murray's not rated in top ten

Glyn Leach wrote:

Matt W wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote: Know what - and this is really sad - I was just imagining a Wlad-Gonzalez fight. Think I need a break ...

As long as you weren't imagining Gonzalez winning

I'm saying nothing.

The build up of that fight (perspex shield between them) was one of the best in recent memory, I remember Bowe throwing a glass at Gonzalez when he kept calling him a "fat cow"

also I remember reading how Shannon Briggs went up to Gonzalez to say hello and the big nutter bitch slapped an astonished Briggs.

after watching him toy with a shot Renaldo Snipes I have to say that I bought into the whole Gonzalez will win stuff also

ApolloCreed wrote:Great read lads - well done.
One question on the rankings - how come some have Irish fighters and some don't?
Eg Paul Hyland's there in Super Bantam, Andy Murray isn't in Lightweight....
Unless Murray's not rated in top ten

Thanks Apollo, much appreciated. We have trouble getting information out of the Board as to which Irish fighters hold BBB of C licences - that's the criteria for inclusion. Sometimes we get the info we ask for, sometimes we don't, it's not very satisfactory - we're only trying to do the right thing by the Board's licence holders, after all. We're doing our best to be accurate.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:Britain has the two best Boxing mags in the world end of.

Agreed Jon, that was a source of pride to myself and Claude when he was BN Editor, we'd talk about it often when we were off covering fights. I think the British websites are the best too. Not being silly patriotic, but with few exceptions Brits cover boxing better than the rest. Not many overseas writers I rate these days - except The Gilf, of course, but he's from another planet!

That's an interesting one, actually. I wonder what international boxing mags are any good? You know, beyond the Yankee ones we know well.

In terms of English-language, there are a couple in Australia. World of Boxing is a decent read with low production values, and The Fist is better-looking but with shoody editing. There must be one in South Africa, and perhaps Canada. I don't think any other English-speaking countries have a big enough boxing demographic for there to be a dedicated mag.

Would people PUR-LEEEEEEZE stop dragging this topic back to page one....

Glyn doesn't need Jorge Luis Gonzalez, Princess, sexual-encounters or harrassment cases....

Please, everyone - just let this topic die a death!
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Just read Graham Houston's column plus his feature on boxing referees in this month's edition of BM and it is a very balanced and insightful read. In his column Houston makes an excellent point on the abuse of Tec Decision. The inconsistency of judges cards, poor stoppages and incompetence handling of fouling has become more pronounced in recent months and it was an issue that was screaming out for a good wise head like Houston, to get to grips with it. I am glad he dedicated his column to the TDec rule and how it robbed Cunningham, I think that particular stoppage annoyed me as much as anything I have seen in the past couple of months.

Also, the photo (p37) of Mayweather, Ortiz and Cortez - says more about that unfortunate ending than a thousand words - great photo.

Borges piece on Adrian Broner was brilliant and Terry Dooley has penned a good feature on the boxing sites, and there is a very well researched piece on Al Bernstein, havent read the rest of the magazine yet, but another top read.

Yes great read - am about to re new myself too. Good to see Terry's got an article in there ( and Ian of course - not read it all yet ) and Glyn gives boxrec another name check

Was great to see Graham Houston rightly calling out Hopkins on his underhand tactics too, saying his latest fiasco sees him lose out on a place with the greats. You'd never see Hagler bail out like that.

Nice to see the very good Eric Raskin writing in there too.

Nice cover - Manny doesn't look very worried does he.

King Geedorah wrote:Cheers MW, let me know what you think about websites piece and give ‘Ghetto’ Glyn a shout if there’s any quibbles about the choice of .dots. Couldn’t pick them all so went with a few that I think are trying to push things forward.

Will do, I'm going to read yours next - I noticed you had Paul Smith in there, pulling no punches as usual. Got to say, I like his attitude - Steve Lillis gives him a decent chance Nov 5th - but picks Groves in the end.

King Geedorah wrote:
Smigga's great to be fair, wish he still posted here.

Yep, top man, I really like him. Clever lad too.

I gave him a live chance against Groves until I saw them in a pic together.

Paul is not a SMW and Groves just looks too big.

As nice a fella as Paul Smith seems to be I feel he has been lined up as someone for Groves to look good against.

I hope I am wrong, have liked Smith ever since the Contender shows and he deserves a break.

MightyWarrior wrote:Nice cover - Manny doesn't look very worried does he.

Maybe because the cover's a mock up and JMM was in Guadalajara at the time
Glad you're liking it tho. As Ian knows, I'm very rarely happy with an issue but this one works for me

Glyn Leach wrote:As Ian knows, I'm very rarely happy with an issue but this one works for me

Aye - 'rarely' is better than 'never happy'...which reflects Glyn's monthly opinion on whatever my opening paragraphs are

Wrists wrote:As nice a fella as Paul Smith seems to be I feel he has been lined up as someone for Groves to look good against.

I hope I am wrong, have liked Smith ever since the Contender shows and he deserves a break.

Smith's had plenty of breaks, but has just failed to capitalise on them. I'm not trying to knock him, but that's really the truth of it - there are plenty of fighters who haven't had the opportunities he's had.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:As Ian knows, I'm very rarely happy with an issue but this one works for me

Aye - 'rarely' is better than 'never happy'...which reflects Glyn's monthly opinion on whatever my opening paragraphs are

I can't help it mate, the ghost of Fleischer descends and I just have to edit!

Glyn Leach wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:Nice cover - Manny doesn't look very worried does he.

Maybe because the cover's a mock up and JMM was in Guadalajara at the time

Ah good one, I couldn't tell, thought he looked a bit relaxed with JMM glaring at him a few inches away.