Records that won't be beat.

[Crease]

Ummm, I singled out the WBC belt because that's the one that Trevor Berbick had. A different example could have been a different belt. Perhaps it is too complicated for you.

This is why some people don't like you.
;;-)

[Goodnight, Irene]

Saad, its like you took a bullet for me in this thread. Im touched

Unfortunately, it has been in vain trying to explain the situation to Crease.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ummm, I singled out the WBC belt because that's the one that Trevor Berbick had. A different example could have been a different belt. Perhaps it is too complicated for you.

This is why some people don't like you.
;;-)

Someone that takes issue with my superior intellect has to deal with their insecurities on their own. I'm not a therapist and have no desire to be one. But that doesn't mean you should be so stubborn as not to learn some basic stuff. It will aid you in future endeavors.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Saad, its like you took a bullet for me in this thread. Im touched

Unfortunately, it has been in vain trying to explain the situation to Crease.

The WBC response made it all worthwhile. I laughed for a few minutes when I read that. Thanks Crease!

[dajuggernaut]

WBA is a recognised championship so Valuev was a champion. Sorry FACT

Keyboard Warrior

Thanks for letting us know you started following the sport yesterday. We'll let you get a year or two under your belt before we continue.

15000 post? mate you must have a sad life and before you get the grammer comments out tell somebody who cares

15,000 posts, what a loser.

oh wait...

[IRLangmaid25]

Henry Cooper winning 3 Lonsdale Belts outright.
Edwin Valero's 27 consecutive knockouts.
Henry Armstrong fighting 30 times in a year.

[The 1bangkid]

Tyson HW champ at 21. I can't see that happening.

What about that Welsh fella? The one that started fighting when he was 10 or something. That one should stay where it is too.

This record is a myth.

The youngest champ ever is Patterson, aged 20.

It will be a long time before Hopkins' new record as oldest linear champion in history is broken. Hell, I'm surprised Foreman's holding of the record didn't last longer (1994-2011). Foreman still holds the record for being oldest man to hold the linear championship, though (48, 1997), & that may stay forever. I doubt Hopkins will be Light-Heavy champ three years from now.

tyson is the youngest he beat berbick at 20 years, 4 months and 22 days old patterson was 21 years and 10 months

[Goodnight, Irene]

Its a dumbass marathon

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Its a dumbass marathon

You're on your own, I did all I could.

[The Great John L]

Its a dumbass marathon

And this insult coming from the one who stated that Floyd was 20 when he won his title.

[JC]

Henry Cooper winning 3 Lonsdale Belts outright.
Edwin Valero's 27 consecutive knockouts.
Henry Armstrong fighting 30 times in a year.

The second two aren't really records.

Lamar Clark had 44 consecutive knockouts and several fighters had a streak of more than 27.

Several fighters (including Len Wickwar and Ted Kid Lewis) fought over 30 times in a year.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Henry Cooper winning 3 Lonsdale Belts outright.
Edwin Valero's 27 consecutive knockouts.
Henry Armstrong fighting 30 times in a year.

The second two aren't really records.

Lamar Clark had 44 consecutive knockouts and several fighters had a streak of more than 27.

Several fighters (including Len Wickwar and Ted Kid Lewis) fought over 30 times in a year.

Greb went 45-0 in a year. Hank is up there for title defenses in a year.

[flatnoseflynn]

Tyson HW champ at 21. I can't see that happening.

What about that Welsh fella? The one that started fighting when he was 10 or something. That one should stay where it is too.

This record is a myth.

The youngest champ ever is Patterson, aged 20.

It will be a long time before Hopkins' new record as oldest linear champion in history is broken. Hell, I'm surprised Foreman's holding of the record didn't last longer (1994-2011). Foreman still holds the record for being oldest man to hold the linear championship, though (48, 1997), & that may stay forever. I doubt Hopkins will be Light-Heavy champ three years from now.

Impressive knowledge

[Alex]

Whos that?

Nipper Pat Daly, real name Patrick Clifford Daley (17 February 1913 – 25 September 1988)

I think, if I'm remembering this correctly, his grandson posts or has posted here.

He was also ranked in the world's top 10 by The Ring magazine aged just 16, which I imagine is a record.

Excuse the blatant plug, but there's a book out on Nipper Pat's ring career and life.

You can read the introduction and first chapter for FREE here:

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For more info visit:

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- Colin Hart of The Sun on the book and Nipper Pat's career

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak-EW3U0Q2s
- Steve Bunce reviews the book

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- the author on BBC Radio Wales

Or to buy the book visit:

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[Crease]

Henry Cooper winning 3 Lonsdale Belts outright.

I think this could be beat if the boxers was world-class and stayed on the domestic scene long enough.

[orbtastic]

Henry Cooper winning 3 Lonsdale Belts outright.

I think this could be beat if the boxers was world-class and stayed on the domestic scene long enough.

BBBoC changed the rules, making it impossible. Same with winning titles at different weights.

I think, although I'd have to check, that several boxers have met the old criteria for winning 3 belts outright.

[Crease]

BBBoC changed the rules, making it impossible. Same with winning titles at different weights.
I think, although I'd have to check, that several boxers have met the old criteria for winning 3 belts outright.

It's not impossible. They changed the rule so that a British Champion must defend the title three times before he can keep the belt. (It used to be two defences).

I a fighter wins the Lonsdale belt and defends it three times he gets to keep that belt.
And he could just do the same pattern three times over.
Equals he owns three Lonsdale belts.

[jaclem2]

feather weight ..sandy saddler......total bouts 162....kayos 103......retired with title because of eye injuries suffered in a car crash...

[JC]

feather weight ..sandy saddler......total bouts 162....kayos 103......retired with title because of eye injuries suffered in a car crash...

Saddlers style always reminds me of Michael Spinks.

[orbtastic]

BBBoC changed the rules, making it impossible. Same with winning titles at different weights.
I think, although I'd have to check, that several boxers have met the old criteria for winning 3 belts outright.

It's not impossible. They changed the rule so that a British Champion must defend the title three times before he can keep the belt. (It used to be two defences).

I a fighter wins the Lonsdale belt and defends it three times he gets to keep that belt.
And he could just do the same pattern three times over.
Equals he owns three Lonsdale belts.

No, they changed the rule, in about 1987 I think. You cannot win more than one Lonsdale belt in the same division.

You can win a 2nd or third title in a 2nd or third division but let's face it, with the other change of needing 4 notches, it's nigh on impossible too.

There are several boxers who have 9 W notches.

[Crease]

No, they changed the rule, in about 1987 I think. You cannot win more than one Lonsdale belt in the same division.

Ah, sh1t... I didn't know that.

[orbtastic]

No, they changed the rule, in about 1987 I think. You cannot win more than one Lonsdale belt in the same division.

Ah, sh1t... I didn't know that.

Costs 'em money. The belts now are 9ct gold whereas before they were 22ct and solid. To win 3 now would be an incredible feat. You'd need 4 W notches at 3 different weights (!) That's 12 wins over BBBoC sanctioned fighters.

I think that Rhodes' record of Lonsdale outright in 91 (without checking?) days would also be impossible now you need 4 notches.

[Crease]

I think that Rhodes' record of Lonsdale outright in 91 (without checking?) days would also be impossible now you need 4 notches.

No I disagree, mate. I think it could be done... But ti would need to be fasttracked, obviously.

[orbtastic]

Sheesh...I wouldn't want you as my manager! 4 fights, all board sanctioned for a title in less than 3 months, that's a huge potential banana skin. The body needs rest, there's no real scope for rest fitting 4 title fights into 3 months. I know back in the day that they did that but we also used to drive without seatbelts and helmets.

[raylawpc]

I doubt we have another sanctioned twenty-round fight.