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JamesH wrote:Look at all the virgin posters having a pop at Arnie Pathetic trolling. ...

Damian wrote:

Arnie wrote:Good point m8 I know where ur coming from with that one but the difference is I live in the gym & give 100% to all my fighters.
ps but I take ur point m8.


Not being funny m8 but u don't no the facts about Myself & Brian and why I moved. I understand what u are saying but this is none of the sort. Brain was very good.......... At blagging.

You have just had two of your big name boxers leave you within 6 months (whatever their reasons, they clearly don't think you're good enough to take them to the next level). You boasted that Matthew Hall was 10 x better since he joined you and then got him knocked out. You claimed that if David Barnes didn't win a world title with you, you'd pack it in only to have David leave you soon afterwards (you say you kicked him out, David suggests otherwise). You have seen Antony Crolla progress massively since leaving you where even his coach has told you mind your own business (he obviously recognises and values how good a coach you are). You have yet to lead any of your fighters to a significant title and yet your are more concerned with coming on a boxing website and sniping at a coach that has achieved a hell of a lot more than you ever have (but maybe he did all of that simply blagging?) I think that says a great deal about you and your mentality more than anyone else, pal.

If I was you, I'd be taking a long hard look in the mirror and asking yourself why you haven't yet lived up to any of your boasts (you claimed that you were developing the Wildcard gym of UK). I'd be questioning whether your boast of sleeping in the gym really is producing your desired results and I'd work on better corner work than when you urged Tony Below to "think of your kids Christmas presents" when helping him come up with a strategy for his fight after he'd been scrambled. I'm not sure that Freddie Roach has used that one yet. As a non-blagger yourself, how about sharing it with him?

Any way, as someone who specialised in excuses as a fighter for whenever you got beat (after Takaloo, it was Brian, after Groenwald, it was the judgesand Billy Graham for not giving you enough attention, after Monteiro, it was 'illness') I will look forward to your latest excuses.

Deserter wrote:

JamesH wrote:Look at all the virgin posters having a pop at Arnie Pathetic trolling. ...

Damien's not a virgin poster as such, he's been around for years, but only ever pops up to have digs at Arnie as I think he's related to Brian Hughes. The only thing I'll say in his defence is that perhaps Arnie shouldn't have had the public dig at Brian given it's all history now... definitely one of those things better dealt with by PM.

MachoMan09 wrote:

JamesH wrote:

Deserter wrote: Damien's not a virgin poster as such, he's been around for years, but only ever pops up to have digs at Arnie as I think he's related to Brian Hughes. The only thing I'll say in his defence is that perhaps Arnie shouldn't have had the public dig at Brian given it's all history now... definitely one of those things better dealt with by PM.

Virgin poster in terms of not posting a lot, that was his 4th and was full of venom. Enough for me to call it trolling. If you post a here a lot, and now and then say something controversial, that's one thing. If you only post to say something controversial which is clearly ridden with agenda, that's quite something else. I understand where you're coming from though

To be fair, mate. If someone had a pop at my dad on a public forum, I'd come back with a retort. Damien has as much right to comment as Arnie does. Ultimately my point stands: fighters leave trainers for a variety of reasons and it does cause upset on both sides that can, in some cases, last for a long time. You've just got to try and get on with it. but it's not always easy.

rhino222 wrote:it matters not if a comment is someones 5th post or someones 5000th post, everyone has a right to opinion and all posters are welcome. how do we know how long someone has been perusing posts and threads on here, some people could watch for years and never post, it does not make their opinions less valid.

rhino222 wrote:it matters not if a comment is someones 5th post or someones 5000th post, everyone has a right to opinion and all posters are welcome. how do we know how long someone has been perusing posts and threads on here, some people could watch for years and never post, it does not make their opinions less valid.

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:I always enjoy watching a Brian Hughes fighter. Blagger or no blagger, his boys are always well schooled.

los2 wrote:

Damian wrote:

Arnie wrote:Good point m8 I know where ur coming from with that one but the difference is I live in the gym & give 100% to all my fighters.
ps but I take ur point m8.


Not being funny m8 but u don't no the facts about Myself & Brian and why I moved. I understand what u are saying but this is none of the sort. Brain was very good.......... At blagging.

You have just had two of your big name boxers leave you within 6 months (whatever their reasons, they clearly don't think you're good enough to take them to the next level). You boasted that Matthew Hall was 10 x better since he joined you and then got him knocked out. You claimed that if David Barnes didn't win a world title with you, you'd pack it in only to have David leave you soon afterwards (you say you kicked him out, David suggests otherwise). You have seen Antony Crolla progress massively since leaving you where even his coach has told you mind your own business (he obviously recognises and values how good a coach you are). You have yet to lead any of your fighters to a significant title and yet your are more concerned with coming on a boxing website and sniping at a coach that has achieved a hell of a lot more than you ever have (but maybe he did all of that simply blagging?) I think that says a great deal about you and your mentality more than anyone else, pal.

If I was you, I'd be taking a long hard look in the mirror and asking yourself why you haven't yet lived up to any of your boasts (you claimed that you were developing the Wildcard gym of UK). I'd be questioning whether your boast of sleeping in the gym really is producing your desired results and I'd work on better corner work than when you urged Tony Below to "think of your kids Christmas presents" when helping him come up with a strategy for his fight after he'd been scrambled. I'm not sure that Freddie Roach has used that one yet. As a non-blagger yourself, how about sharing it with him?

Any way, as someone who specialised in excuses as a fighter for whenever you got beat (after Takaloo, it was Brian, after Groenwald, it was the judgesand Billy Graham for not giving you enough attention, after Monteiro, it was 'illness') I will look forward to your latest excuses.

brian hughes is a top trainer.....farnell had the pick of warren's prospects and (apart from his strange comments at press conferences) has done nothing as a trainer......he should show brian hughes some respect

princess wrote:http://www.janecouchboxing.com/?woo_vid ... nkie-gavin

jessi wrote:

princess wrote:http://www.janecouchboxing.com/?woo_vid ... nkie-gavin

Great stuff Jane ! Keep it up

JamesH wrote:Look at all the virgin posters having a pop at Arnie Pathetic trolling. People have different methods in the corners and drawing on personal family motivation is actually quite common. Arnie has made a dig about Hughes, but he's not doing it behind some fictitious forum account (like some of you), he's being quite up front about it.

The amusing thing is that you are judging a trainer on his career up to 33 yrs of age. Not many coaches achieve world champions and trinket after trinket at that age, especially not when dealing with mainly prospects coming through. Arnie is learning, growing, and will do just fine....

Damian wrote:

allahsnackbar wrote:post the pm damien

Ask the moderators. I sent it to them.

Any way,back to the topic of Frankie Gavin leaving Antony Farnell.

Damian wrote:

allahsnackbar wrote:

Damian wrote: Ask the moderators. I sent it to them.

Any way,back to the topic of Frankie Gavin leaving Antony Farnell.

i dont believe arnie said that. if he said it you should still have the pm

With all due respect, I'm not that bothered what you believe.

I do still have the PM saved and it was sent to the moderators shortly after it was received. They dealt with the matter on here. Contact them if you really want any more info. Given the nature of the post, I also showed it to the police who advised me to keep it for my records. Given the personal nature and references of the post, it is not something that I would wish to post on here and add further fuel to. Antony Farnell can protest all he likes. It came from his account.

Finally, it was consistent with an earlier post that was posted - and swiftly removed - by the moderators by a then-member of Farnell's camp which alleged that abuse of young men was taking place at the Collyhurst camp. When he talks about hitting below the belt, the irony is palpable.

I don't want to post any more on this matter as I have said my piece. I made my comments in response to Farnell's unnecessary and childish jibe about a member of my family. I have now justified why I did so. Now, please can we get back on the topic...