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Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 07 Oct 2011, 18:32
by bfchunk
Ezzard wrote:I hope it works. Problem for me is that I’m with Virgin. So I’ll miss all these early fights Cleverly, Bellew, Burns etc… I feel left out and unwanted!!!!! So I’ll be used to living without allegedly by the time it’s available.
Spare a thought for for us Virgins!
They have said Cleverly - Bellew will be online at least.
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 08 Oct 2011, 04:09
by leforge
bfchunk wrote:Ezzard wrote:I hope it works. Problem for me is that I’m with Virgin. So I’ll miss all these early fights Cleverly, Bellew, Burns etc… I feel left out and unwanted!!!!! So I’ll be used to living without allegedly by the time it’s available.
Spare a thought for for us Virgins!
They have said Cleverly - Bellew will be online at least.
All depends on quality of stream with this lot it be poor. Pretty poor showing!
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 08 Oct 2011, 04:23
by freddydoesdallas
leforge wrote:bfchunk wrote:Ezzard wrote:I hope it works. Problem for me is that I’m with Virgin. So I’ll miss all these early fights Cleverly, Bellew, Burns etc… I feel left out and unwanted!!!!! So I’ll be used to living without allegedly by the time it’s available.
Spare a thought for for us Virgins!
They have said Cleverly - Bellew will be online at least.
All depends on quality of stream with this lot it be poor. Pretty poor showing!
They also said it would be on virgin at the launch
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 08 Oct 2011, 09:19
by earsjohn
leforge wrote:earsjohn wrote:revporl wrote:At what point is it going to become a pay only channel? Before or after Cleverly/Bellew?
My guess? Approximately 3 hours before Bellew v Cleverly. If they wait until after then they are reliant on Burns v Katsidis being the fight to attract the paying punters.
How are they making money now they must be racking up big losses. Someoneusy have plenty of capital to find this!
Quite.
They've also got the Donaire v Narvaez fight and the Cotto v Margarito / Rios v Murray card. I'm baffled as to how this makes financial sense.
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 08 Oct 2011, 09:39
by leforge
earsjohn wrote:leforge wrote:earsjohn wrote:
My guess? Approximately 3 hours before Bellew v Cleverly. If they wait until after then they are reliant on Burns v Katsidis being the fight to attract the paying punters.
How are they making money now they must be racking up big losses. Someoneusy have plenty of capital to find this!
Quite.
They've also got the Donaire v Narvaez fight and the Cotto v Margarito / Rios v Murray card. I'm baffled as to how this makes financial sense.
They thinking boxing going to get over 100,000 subscribers dont how they done there research when sky boxing gets 200000 viewers on good night. Someon ei sfunding big losses at the moment.Advertising revenue probbaly small. Murray scarificed to get free tv rights fo Cotto maybe?
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 17:42
by Jeff Thomas
allegedly wrote:Talks are ongoing with Virgin and BT Vision and we hope to be on those platforms soon.
Ezzard wrote:I hope it works. Problem for me is that I’m with Virgin. So I’ll miss all these early fights Cleverly, Bellew, Burns etc… I feel left out and unwanted!!!!! So I’ll be used to living without allegedly by the time it’s available.
Spare a thought for for us Virgins!
What did you think of my prediction?
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 10:52
by Cholo_cws
I find myself wondering whether WBU titles etc will be back on the menu before too long - what with so many dates to fill.
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 11:04
by earsjohn
Cholo_cws wrote:I find myself wondering whether WBU titles etc will be back on the menu before too long - what with so many dates to fill.
No need for WBU when you have WBA super, regular, interim, inter-continental and WBC diamond, silver, emeritus, international titles to throw about. Ricky Hatton through his reign as WBU Light Welter champ is easily as worthy as some of the current Big 4 titlists masquerading as World Champions.
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 11:27
by Cholo_cws
earsjohn wrote:Cholo_cws wrote:I find myself wondering whether WBU titles etc will be back on the menu before too long - what with so many dates to fill.
No need for WBU when you have WBA super, regular, interim, inter-continental and WBC diamond, silver, emeritus, international titles to throw about. Ricky Hatton through his reign as WBU Light Welter champ is easily as worthy as some of the current Big 4 titlists masquerading as World Champions.
I can't remember when an allegedly fighter even fought for a WBC title (non-unification)? Naseem? Don't think they exist in allegedly's eyes. Wonder why? ;;-)
Re: allegedly 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 12 Oct 2011, 02:19
by Old bones Ian
Although nothing to do with allegedly, an interesting piece on the BBC website about Liverpool FC thinking about an overseas TV deal. Now although they don't mention teams having a channel each in the UK, how long before they do that?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15269831.stm
Re: Allegedly channel 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 18 May 2012, 15:14
by Jeff Thomas
Jeff Thomas wrote:My expectations of the next 12 months for Allegedly Channel are;
First 1-2 months- impressive matches for free. Appleby - Walsh was a sure fire classic and it was a clever match to kick things off in a positive light. certainly capture the interest of the general uk boxing public.
Month 3-6- charges come into play- as an estimate 60-80% go for the subscription on the basis that most weeks there is at least one match of note. Presumably 1-2 big international matches for the hardcore and fwp crossing there fingers and toes that bellow-clev and burns- kats produces credible winners so they can start attempting to flog the channel to pubs etc-
Month 6-9 - Allegedly Channel introduces small hall promoters such as Steve wood, fearon. Goodwin etc etc... This brings in new fans as locals part with their hard earned to try and catch their pals in action. The use of these smaller promoters will allow fwp and queensbury to start to pull back a bit on the stiff matchmaking. No doubt the Olympic boxing will make an appearance further fleshing out the content.
Months 10-12- Olympians signed, people no accustomed to paying the £10 fwp returns to his pre Allegedly channel matchmaking policy. Fairly decent fights top the bills as a handful of undercard fighters +1 every week. Things return to 'normal' in terms of match making- and now with an established channel fwp can make whatever fight it sees fit with little or no scrutiny. It's only £10 we'll keep telling ourselves.
That's how I think things will go- I look forward to seeing the numbers Allegedly Channel can draw. I think it will do ok actually- is Allegedly Channel good for the future of the sport? That's massively debatable. How is it going to bring anyone new to it? With a promoter who is particularly unhappy about criticism then who is going to tell him when something's not going well? Certainly no one on the pay roll and I don't get the impression they will be checking on here once things have began to snowball for the channel.
The days of eubank and benn couldn't be further away as long as this channel exists. All that talent hidden away on a private, non sky cable channel. Nightmarish that my kids won't have a Nigel benn, or anaseem named to look up to.
The balls in sky's court now! I think they should take a really hard line with regards to matchmaking and world tidles now. Let Allegedly channel be the wkd, and try and be champagne. Once again if anyone from the board can put me in touch with rob smith I'd greatly appreciate it- I have a sincerely brilliant idea which will fit in perfectly with this rehaul of uk boxing.
Thanks for reading rant
Thought? (other then stfu would be nice)

From October...
Re: Allegedly channel 456 - thoughts ?
Posted: 18 May 2012, 15:35
by leforge
Jeff Thomas wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:My expectations of the next 12 months for Allegedly Channel are;
First 1-2 months- impressive matches for free. Appleby - Walsh was a sure fire classic and it was a clever match to kick things off in a positive light. certainly capture the interest of the general uk boxing public.
Month 3-6- charges come into play- as an estimate 60-80% go for the subscription on the basis that most weeks there is at least one match of note. Presumably 1-2 big international matches for the hardcore and fwp crossing there fingers and toes that bellow-clev and burns- kats produces credible winners so they can start attempting to flog the channel to pubs etc-
Month 6-9 - Allegedly Channel introduces small hall promoters such as Steve wood, fearon. Goodwin etc etc... This brings in new fans as locals part with their hard earned to try and catch their pals in action. The use of these smaller promoters will allow fwp and queensbury to start to pull back a bit on the stiff matchmaking. No doubt the Olympic boxing will make an appearance further fleshing out the content.
Months 10-12- Olympians signed, people no accustomed to paying the £10 fwp returns to his pre Allegedly channel matchmaking policy. Fairly decent fights top the bills as a handful of undercard fighters +1 every week. Things return to 'normal' in terms of match making- and now with an established channel fwp can make whatever fight it sees fit with little or no scrutiny. It's only £10 we'll keep telling ourselves.
That's how I think things will go- I look forward to seeing the numbers Allegedly Channel can draw. I think it will do ok actually- is Allegedly Channel good for the future of the sport? That's massively debatable. How is it going to bring anyone new to it? With a promoter who is particularly unhappy about criticism then who is going to tell him when something's not going well? Certainly no one on the pay roll and I don't get the impression they will be checking on here once things have began to snowball for the channel.
The days of eubank and benn couldn't be further away as long as this channel exists. All that talent hidden away on a private, non sky cable channel. Nightmarish that my kids won't have a Nigel benn, or anaseem named to look up to.
The balls in sky's court now! I think they should take a really hard line with regards to matchmaking and world tidles now. Let Allegedly channel be the wkd, and try and be champagne. Once again if anyone from the board can put me in touch with rob smith I'd greatly appreciate it- I have a sincerely brilliant idea which will fit in perfectly with this rehaul of uk boxing.
Thanks for reading rant
Thought? (other then stfu would be nice)

From October...
The UK shows have been very poor since subcription, good for overseas fights. Think the Haye fight will be make or break for it. They get very good numbers for that month then 98% will leave. But that one good month will help recoup early losses and keep funded for while we hope.