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Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 10:06
by maverick23
Whilst Tyson is in entertaining fights and Hennessey has done very well getting him on CH5, someone needs to get Tyson to knuckle down.

Yesterday he looked slow, out of shape, not mentally switched on and was very easy to hit. He's an accident waiting to happen.

Instead of saying he's the best most entertaining heavyweight in the world Hennessey needs to admit that something needs to change.

The best Heavys of recent years (the Klitschkos and Haye) all had one thing in common-they came to fight in excellent condition no matter who the opponent.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 10:25
by whiteboy
bloody annoying stoppage that. fair play to fury jumping up from that shot

hennessy's comments are just ludicrous for me. my housemate, a 'casual', pissed himself at the claims in the post-fight interview

how about he concentrates on sorting out the behaviour of fury's mob at ringside at every fight?

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 11:30
by broomy7s
Fury was awful last night just couldn't get himself going. His head cleared pretty quick and leg's were strong after the knock down. Hennesey's face was a picture when fury was knocked down. I do however think the opponent was much better than people are giving him credit for.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 12:03
by alexpaterson
Fury looked terrible there! His defence was shocking, his offence was sloppy and he still didn't pop the jab instead pawing with it! Pajkicot couldn't miss with the overhand right. His conditioning again looked pathetic. Disappointed by him just when I thought his last two performances started to inspire me

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 12:32
by exittored
FtmPress wrote:
exittored wrote:
crusader wrote: I agree that Fury has been fighting at a higher level, but his recent results hardly suggest that he would easily defeat Price. Also, Fury doesn't seem to have the best chin either; if a non-puncher can drop and hurt him, Price can as well.
You're right, i'm just getting a bit pissed off everyone attacking Fury. I think he's no world beater but considering how active he's been the last few months then you have to allow him an off night every now and again.

What exactly has Price done so far to get such a great reputation on here apart from knocking out a few bums?

I still think he's way above Price though, he's has a Top 10 ranking with 2 or 3 sanctioning bodies and Price has nothing close to that so whats the point of the fight?
Because they are the 2 best heavyweights in the Uk right now, all so you do not need to fight as as much as Fury is you have to recall a fighter has to train as well a lot of work is done in the gym learning a fighter can go stale and not improve if he is fighting to much,Please the level Fury is fighting at is not that great ok if you want to learn how to fight in a bar room.
But i will say Tyson has a great heart and is good to watch. But is he world class Let not forget Prices's career before he took of his vet he was fighting the best in the world that counts for a lot.Thereonly one way to ask this question re Fury vs Price let get it on in the next few months.
That's all well and good Frank but maybe you should have moved Price much quicker from the start of his career rather then match him with a host of Euro/American bums and one of your own too. Fury beat Mcdermott in his 7th Pro fight after a year of boxing and then beat him properly again a few fights later and has now gone on to even higher competition wheras Price simply hasn't done enough so far in his professional career to warrant a fight with him or is even that well known by the British public.

Yes the sharks are circling Fury now that they see blood in the same way everyone will want to fight Pacquiao now but the next time you see Tyson fight will be at Madison square gardens in March and it's more likely he'll be facing my guy Amir Hardcore Mansour then your guy David Price.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 12:38
by P4P#1
Iv Heard that The belt last night wasnt furys, that they had to get hold of another boxers just to walk to the ring with and showcase after the fight, dunno if fury has lost his or what lol

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 13:48
by funso banjo baby
credit to Pajkic

as usual all the talk is about Fury's performance...but Pajkic fought the perfect fight to beat a huge guy like Fury. he was throwing really dangerous looping shots from the beginning. he cancelled out the huge height difference, and that takes some doing, no matter how crap ur opponent is

id love to see a rematch anytime.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 15:01
by Crazyboy
I still can't over how many of you actually rate fury??

I really mean that, he is average at best. :witzend:

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 15:34
by exittored
Did anyone go to the fight?

Was it as wild as it looked on tv? was the ring as small as it looked?

Hennessey needs to get things in check asap else there could be a major dust-up live on channel 5 next time.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 15:44
by damianhucker1
exittored wrote:Did anyone go to the fight?

Was it as wild as it looked on tv? was the ring as small as it looked?

Hennessey needs to get things in check asap else there could be a major dust-up live on channel 5 next time.
i was there , only saw one little scuffle between an asian guy and a lad from coventry , before Eubank fight .

otherwise didnt see one other incident at all whatsoever

and ring looked just the standard size.

everyone near the front kept standing and i can only assume all the movement made it look on tv as if it was kicking off , but if it did i certainly didnt see it .

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 15:53
by exittored
damianhucker1 wrote:
exittored wrote:Did anyone go to the fight?

Was it as wild as it looked on tv? was the ring as small as it looked?

Hennessey needs to get things in check asap else there could be a major dust-up live on channel 5 next time.
i was there , only saw one little scuffle between an asian guy and a lad from coventry , before Eubank fight .

otherwise didnt see one other incident at all whatsoever

and ring looked just the standard size.

everyone near the front kept standing and i can only assume all the movement made it look on tv as if it was kicking off , but if it did i certainly didnt see it .
Thanks, usual ESB reaction then making it sound like there was a riot going on there.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/sho ... 166&page=3

What did you think of Fury having seen him up close in the flesh, how far do you think he can go?

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 15:53
by Horse
Crazyboy wrote:I still can't over how many of you actually rate fury??

I really mean that, he is average at best. :witzend:
Fury will become a world champion.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 15:55
by leforge
Horse wrote:
Crazyboy wrote:I still can't over how many of you actually rate fury??

I really mean that, he is average at best. :witzend:
Fury will become a world champion.
:lol:

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 16:01
by damianhucker1
exittored wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:
exittored wrote:Did anyone go to the fight?

Was it as wild as it looked on tv? was the ring as small as it looked?

Hennessey needs to get things in check asap else there could be a major dust-up live on channel 5 next time.
i was there , only saw one little scuffle between an asian guy and a lad from coventry , before Eubank fight .

otherwise didnt see one other incident at all whatsoever

and ring looked just the standard size.

everyone near the front kept standing and i can only assume all the movement made it look on tv as if it was kicking off , but if it did i certainly didnt see it .
Thanks, usual ESB reaction then making it sound like there was a riot going on there.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/sho ... 166&page=3

What did you think of Fury having seen him up close in the flesh, how far do you think he can go?
seen him in the flesh 3 times now (although first one was his debut )
at this point in time i think audley Harrison COULD beat him .

hes only 23 theres plenty of time to improve but he needs to work hard in the gym , if hes going anywhere he needs to make it happen not to just expect it .

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 16:03
by Bennyblanco
How did Leigh wood look Damian?

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 16:14
by damianhucker1
Bennyblanco wrote:How did Leigh wood look Damian?

Looked good , landed some nice body shots , could and should have stopped the guy but his corner could be heard telling him to ease off , which Leigh confirmed afterwards .

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 16:41
by milpool
My thoughts, for what they are worth...

As has been mentioned, Tyson still looks out of shape. For a fighter that keeps busy this surprises me. He could do with shedding at least half a stone.

Getting floored by a light punching heavyweight is a bit worrying. There are a whole host of guys out there that hit far harder than Pajkic, if he gets tagged by a heavier hitter I think it's lights out.

As Macho Man says, he makes for good TV. But for the good of the sport and Tyson Fury, can we have his family and friends watching it from a distance.

I really don't think we're watching the next big thing here. There is no way in the world Fury beats either Klit...not now, not next year, not the year after.
He's got so many flaws, yes he's still young but I just can't see him ever reaching the top.

Now that a certain Audley Harrison is off Strictly Come Dancing - or so I'm told, I don't watch it ;;-) - can we see this match take place next summer? I'd love to see that one and I'll say it now, Audley wins by KO.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 16:48
by FtmPress
exittored wrote:
FtmPress wrote:
exittored wrote: You're right, i'm just getting a bit pissed off everyone attacking Fury. I think he's no world beater but considering how active he's been the last few months then you have to allow him an off night every now and again.

What exactly has Price done so far to get such a great reputation on here apart from knocking out a few bums?

I still think he's way above Price though, he's has a Top 10 ranking with 2 or 3 sanctioning bodies and Price has nothing close to that so whats the point of the fight?
Because they are the 2 best heavyweights in the Uk right now, all so you do not need to fight as as much as Fury is you have to recall a fighter has to train as well a lot of work is done in the gym learning a fighter can go stale and not improve if he is fighting to much,Please the level Fury is fighting at is not that great ok if you want to learn how to fight in a bar room.
But i will say Tyson has a great heart and is good to watch. But is he world class Let not forget Prices's career before he took of his vet he was fighting the best in the world that counts for a lot.Thereonly one way to ask this question re Fury vs Price let get it on in the next few months.
That's all well and good Frank but maybe you should have moved Price much quicker from the start of his career rather then match him with a host of Euro/American bums and one of your own too. Fury beat Mcdermott in his 7th Pro fight after a year of boxing and then beat him properly again a few fights later and has now gone on to even higher competition wheras Price simply hasn't done enough so far in his professional career to warrant a fight with him or is even that well known by the British public.

Yes the sharks are circling Fury now that they see blood in the same way everyone will want to fight Pacquiao now but the next time you see Tyson fight will be at Madison square gardens in March and it's more likely he'll be facing my guy Amir Hardcore Mansour then your guy David Price.
Name any one that Fury has boxed that is a class oppent. or of a high standard. And unless you are blind Fury never won the first fight with big John he got a gift from a very poor ref.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 16:52
by Matt Teague
The first thing i noticed about Fury is he defends straight bodyshots with an open glove parry, rather than using his elbows, and when his opponents come is low he drops both gloves, he looked very open last night and slow, he also looked like he hadnt trained very hard.
I'd be surprise if he reached euro level, too easy to hit, but he sure has heart

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 17:01
by Crazyboy
Horse wrote:
Crazyboy wrote:I still can't over how many of you actually rate fury??

I really mean that, he is average at best. :witzend:
Fury will become a world champion.
good one, i do love your humour.

P.S. Don't you dare move him up your rankings list

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 17:10
by exittored
FtmPress wrote:
exittored wrote:
FtmPress wrote: Because they are the 2 best heavyweights in the Uk right now, all so you do not need to fight as as much as Fury is you have to recall a fighter has to train as well a lot of work is done in the gym learning a fighter can go stale and not improve if he is fighting to much,Please the level Fury is fighting at is not that great ok if you want to learn how to fight in a bar room.
But i will say Tyson has a great heart and is good to watch. But is he world class Let not forget Prices's career before he took of his vet he was fighting the best in the world that counts for a lot.Thereonly one way to ask this question re Fury vs Price let get it on in the next few months.
That's all well and good Frank but maybe you should have moved Price much quicker from the start of his career rather then match him with a host of Euro/American bums and one of your own too. Fury beat Mcdermott in his 7th Pro fight after a year of boxing and then beat him properly again a few fights later and has now gone on to even higher competition wheras Price simply hasn't done enough so far in his professional career to warrant a fight with him or is even that well known by the British public.

Yes the sharks are circling Fury now that they see blood in the same way everyone will want to fight Pacquiao now but the next time you see Tyson fight will be at Madison square gardens in March and it's more likely he'll be facing my guy Amir Hardcore Mansour then your guy David Price.
Name any one that Fury has boxed that is a class oppent. or of a high standard. And unless you are blind Fury never won the first fight with big John he got a gift from a very poor ref.
Yeah but Frank he took on Mcdermott after only 10 months as a pro which even you have to give him credit for and yeah i probably would have given Mcdermott the decison but look at who Price faced after 10 months as a Pro: Dmitrijs Basovs with a 3-2 record.

At least Fury did come back 8 months later and knocked out Mcdermott and since then he has put together wins of unbeaten guys like Rich Power and Marcelo Nascimento who are no world beaters but came to fight. Nicolai Firtha and Neven Pajkic are good medium level wins and he gave British Champ Dereck Chisora a spanking.

Price hasn't even faced Mcdermott yet so how you claim he deserves a shot at the British title? why don't you put him in against Chisora and the winner faces Fury?

I do like Price and rate him highly although i honestly think he has flaws too and untill he beats a Chisora or Pajkic type opponent i'm still unconvinced.

Anyway Tyson is fighting next January in Blackpool and then Madison square gardens in March so i don't see where Price fits into that plan.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 17:35
by Horse
Crazyboy wrote:good one, i do love your humour.

P.S. Don't you dare move him up your rankings list
He just stopped a 16-0 Canadian champion with decent wins against Firtha and Gavern. 13 of his 16 wins came against opponents with winning records.

Why shouldn't he move up the rankings?

When fighters like Fury keep fighting good opposition sometimes they are going to have a few problems in fights.

Who has Price beaten that is better than Pajkic? No one.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 17:48
by Crazyboy
Horse wrote:
Crazyboy wrote:good one, i do love your humour.

P.S. Don't you dare move him up your rankings list
He just stopped a 16-0 Canadian champion with decent wins against Firtha and Gavern. 13 of his 16 wins came against opponents with winning records.

Why shouldn't he move up the rankings?

When fighters like Fury keep fighting good opposition sometimes they are going to have a few problems in fights.

Who has Price beaten that is better than Pajkic? No one.
ok ok i admit he may move up the rankings, that bit was tongue in cheek, but world champion???????? do me a favour.

However, If you mean World champion at bringing the worst fans ever to boxing then yes i agree with you

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 17:59
by Horse
Crazyboy wrote:ok ok i admit he may move up the rankings, that bit was tongue in cheek, but world champion???????? do me a favour.

However, If you mean World champion at bringing the worst fans ever to boxing then yes i agree with you
I think he will pick up a WBC, WBA, IBF or WBO title at some point.

Re: Fury fight>

Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 05:31
by dondada
MachoMan09 wrote:But when it comes to the general popularity of the sport, you lot are largely irrelevant, you'll watch a couple of no-name flyweights in a drab leisure centre in some crappy town in Yorkshire and not get bored.
I'll get me coat... :lol: