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Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:35
by damianhucker1
The Insider wrote:
Dan Dares wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:37
by dondada
I do have a feeling that The Insider is on the level. He needs to reveal himself to me though (no homo) 8)

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:38
by Dan Dares
The Insider wrote:
Dan Dares wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:
OK, lets try something else seeing as your having a bit of difficulty understanding how facts are determined.

What, in your 'insider' opinion, caused this gross act of incompetence to happen, after 4 and a half years of flawless officiating?

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:43
by The Insider
damianhucker1 wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Dan Dares wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:45
by Dan Dares
The Insider wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.[/quote]

So you have no idea why he threw a wobbler? Gotcha.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:47
by The Insider
Dan Dares wrote:
The Insider wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.[/quote]

So you have no idea why he threw a wobbler? Gotcha.[/quote]
Absolutley none whatsoever. You?

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:47
by dondada
Is it true that Enzo Calzaghe was showing Board Inspector and BoxRec legend 'The Law' a file full of his First Aid certificates which he lost his grip of and happened to drop on the bell at exactly the same moment as Enzo got chinned?

Just something I heard...these things happen.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:49
by The Insider
dondada wrote:Is it true that Enzo Calzaghe was showing Board Inspector and BoxRec legend 'The Law' a file full of his First Aid certificates which he lost his grip of and happened to drop on the bell at exactly the same moment as Enzo got chinned?

Just something I heard...these things happen.
LMAO

I heard Al.... sorry "The LAw" was actually showing Enzo Cal naked photos of Bunny Johnson and dropped them on the Bell.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:50
by Dan Dares
The Insider wrote:
Dan Dares wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.[/quote]

So you have no idea why he threw a wobbler? Gotcha.[/quote]
Absolutley none whatsoever. You?[/quote]

That's better. Thank you. You've no idea what actually happened.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:51
by Dan Dares
dondada wrote:Is it true that Enzo Calzaghe was showing Board Inspector and BoxRec legend 'The Law' a file full of his First Aid certificates which he lost his grip of and happened to drop on the bell at exactly the same moment as Enzo got chinned?

Just something I heard...these things happen.
:OhYes:

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 13:55
by The Insider
Dan Dares wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Dan Dares wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.[/quote]

So you have no idea why he threw a wobbler? Gotcha.[/quote]
Absolutley none whatsoever. You?[/quote]

That's better. Thank you. You've no idea what actually happened.[/quote]

Not what you asked. You just accepted he threw a wobbler. I just dont know why. Do You?

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 14:01
by damianhucker1
The Insider wrote:
Dan Dares wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.[/quote]

So you have no idea why he threw a wobbler? Gotcha.[/quote]
Absolutley none whatsoever. You?[/quote]

That's better. Thank you. You've no idea what actually happened.[/quote]

Not what you asked. You just accepted he threw a wobbler. I just dont know why. Do You?[/quote]

i get Dans point .

Its no different to if i say i was there and saw someone give him a £300 backhander , id say its fact but why should anyone believe me (for the record thats just a completely fabricated example )

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 14:07
by The Insider
damianhucker1 wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Dan Dares wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.[/quote]

So you have no idea why he threw a wobbler? Gotcha.[/quote]
Absolutley none whatsoever. You?[/quote]

That's better. Thank you. You've no idea what actually happened.[/quote]

Not what you asked. You just accepted he threw a wobbler. I just dont know why. Do You?[/quote]

i get Dans point .

Its no different to if i say i was there and saw someone give him a £300 backhander , id say its fact but why should anyone believe me (for the record thats just a completely fabricated example )[/quote]

But you havent. Im sure there are plenty of folk who would believe that too. Id be very interested to hear if anyone had reason to belive that the TC or other officials had been offered bribes/backhabders etc.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 16:09
by Final round
The Insider wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.[/quote]

So you have no idea why he threw a wobbler? Gotcha.[/quote]
Absolutley none whatsoever. You?[/quote]

That's better. Thank you. You've no idea what actually happened.[/quote]

Not what you asked. You just accepted he threw a wobbler. I just dont know why. Do You?[/quote]

i get Dans point .

Its no different to if i say i was there and saw someone give him a £300 backhander , id say its fact but why should anyone believe me (for the record thats just a completely fabricated example )[/quote]

But you havent. Im sure there are plenty of folk who would believe that too. Id be very interested to hear if anyone had reason to belive that the TC or other officials had been offered bribes/backhabders etc.[/quote]

Dial Timestoppers 047-047-047

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 19:35
by The Law
I can confirm that 'The Insider' has indepth knowledge of this situation and knows everyone involved in the case. The points he raised are valid and have proven to be correct in the investigation. Martin Fallon is one of the most honest guys in British boxing and his integrity is unquestionable. No doubt he made a very silly error but there was nothing underhand going on. I also know Martin personally.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 19:42
by Dan Dares
The Law wrote:I can confirm that 'The Insider' has indepth knowledge of this situation and knows everyone involved in the case. The points he raised are valid and have proven to be correct in the investigation. Martin Fallon is one of the most honest guys in British boxing and his integrity is unquestionable. No doubt he made a very silly error but there was nothing underhand going on. I also know Martin personally.
Respectfully, doesn't mean shit to me. I'm not saying he's corrupt.

What caused him to end a round at 2.18? When Enzo was well gone?

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 19:43
by ShadrachSimmo
MachoMan09 wrote:
Final round wrote:
The Insider wrote:
Na mate. Its true. It was found proven at his hearing. Its fact. If you wanna chase a wild conspiracy theroy be my guest.
Proof?
Fact :wink:

No offence but we dont know who you are , why should anyone take your word for it , your 25 posts into your boxrec time (at least with this username)

Im not saying i disagree with you , all im saying you cant suggest something as fact without proof any more than i or anyone else on here could .[/quote]


No offence taken. You dont have to take my word for it at all. It is a fact though. Its fact that a hearing in front of the Midlands area council cleared Mr Fallon of any corruption or underhanded tactics. I may be better placed to give an opinion about Martin having known him for the last 10 years thats all. I have nothing to prove or gain from giving you an informed opinion.

@ Dan

I have no idea why he trew a wobbler. I think it could have got a bit much for him with the action that was unfolding and he just lost the plot.[/quote]

So you have no idea why he threw a wobbler? Gotcha.[/quote]
Absolutley none whatsoever. You?[/quote]

That's better. Thank you. You've no idea what actually happened.[/quote]

Not what you asked. You just accepted he threw a wobbler. I just dont know why. Do You?[/quote]

i get Dans point .

Its no different to if i say i was there and saw someone give him a £300 backhander , id say its fact but why should anyone believe me (for the record thats just a completely fabricated example )[/quote]

But you havent. Im sure there are plenty of folk who would believe that too. Id be very interested to hear if anyone had reason to belive that the TC or other officials had been offered bribes/backhabders etc.[/quote]

Dial Timestoppers 047-047-047[/quote]

I've nothing to add, I just wanted to be in on the largest nest of quotes in the history of the internet.[/quote]

Me too..... :DDD

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 20:28
by The Law
Dan Dares wrote:
The Law wrote:I can confirm that 'The Insider' has indepth knowledge of this situation and knows everyone involved in the case. The points he raised are valid and have proven to be correct in the investigation. Martin Fallon is one of the most honest guys in British boxing and his integrity is unquestionable. No doubt he made a very silly error but there was nothing underhand going on. I also know Martin personally.
Respectfully, doesn't mean shit to me. I'm not saying he's corrupt.

What caused him to end a round at 2.18? When Enzo was well gone?
It was a genuine (yet silly) mistake. His clock/watch was not correctly maintained (which is his fault) and as a result he lost track of time in an eventful first round. Consequently he has been suspended until 1st January 2013 and ordered that he undertake further training.

Stupid mistakes can and do happen by officials in all sports. The board has thoroughly investigated the matter and action has been taken. Everyone who knows Martin Fallon can vouch for his integrity.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 21:11
by The Law
The Insider wrote:
dondada wrote:Is it true that Enzo Calzaghe was showing Board Inspector and BoxRec legend 'The Law' a file full of his First Aid certificates which he lost his grip of and happened to drop on the bell at exactly the same moment as Enzo got chinned?

Just something I heard...these things happen.
LMAO

I heard Al.... sorry "The LAw" was actually showing Enzo Cal naked photos of Bunny Johnson and dropped them on the Bell.
I deny all knowledge of this and my legal team will be in touch with both of you in due course ..... :oops:

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 04:23
by The Insider
Dan Dares wrote:I'm not saying he's corrupt.

What caused him to end a round at 2.18? When Enzo was well gone?

You tell us? You accept he's not corrupt, you've been told (and its been proven at the hearing) he was incompetent. If you know something we don't I'd love to hear it.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 10:45
by Wrists
Its a very good opinion piece whether you agree with the content or not.

Fair play I say

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 11:26
by thepocketrocket
Wrists wrote:Its a very good opinion piece whether you agree with the content or not.

Fair play I say
Thanks chief.....

With an opinion piece you are always likely to get some heat coming back. Unless of course you do bland, mainsteam safe opinions, but then, what is the point?.

I will keep saying what I see (Roy Walker styleee) and I will continue to argue my opinion with anyone who thinks I am talking shit, as long as it is done in a non-personal manner.... :box:

Only question is, what the hell am I gonna talk next week???????????

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 17:27
by Wrists
Nothing wrong with opinion pieces and pieces that are non mianstream. You're right about the criticism though, my DeGale/Groves piece which focussed on Internet contributers that I wrote for here took a slating lol - albeit mainly on Eastside no not sure if that counts

Keep churning it out I say - if McNeilly didn't like it, it wouldn't go up

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 01 Apr 2012, 02:49
by dondada
Wrists wrote:Keep churning it out I say - if McNeilly didn't like it, it wouldn't go up
I've published plenty of opinion pieces I didn't agree with - different opinions make life interesting.

Re: Boxing Clever - Enzo should quit but no sympathy for Shane

Posted: 01 Apr 2012, 03:01
by Wrists
Exactly - should have said 'if he thought it was rubbish' not 'didnt like it'.

You know what I mean - and you also know my views on opinion pieces

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