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thepocketrocket wrote:Seriously. You are passionate about your ratings, and think they are more credible than the Ring.

Go out there and make a difference.

Good luck Horse

Shut up, you boring git.

Do you insult people so readily in the real world? Show some self respect and stop blathering on with the same tired insults.

daviddee wrote:This is a joke.. Crolla wasn't that impressive last night anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.. Rees was poor last night and the fight was very close with typical sky commentating being a joke. I had this a draw and don't really like either fighter both really over rated.. As for Crolla v Burns that is a complete mismatch.. Crolla talked about going to super feather where at least 5 British contenders would beat him... Even at lightweight there is British fighters who would beat him and obviously he has already been beaten by Derry Mathews.. The only guy in Britain even nearly ready for Ricky Burns is Terry Flannigan.. If Crolla is fighting at lightweight he should fight the winner of Mathews v Coyle.. Then maybe Liam Walsh or Flannigan.. He won't get past these guys so why throw him in with Ricky.. Ar for Kevin Mitchell I know he would beat Crolla handily and was there not a rumour John Murray put Crolla down in Sparring?? But yes Crolla is ready and deserves a crack at Ricky Burns

I don't think Rees was poor last night. He was very narrowly beaten by a kid who did better. Rees said afterwards he didn't hit him with as much as usual because of Crollas movement, not because he didn't have it anymore.

I don't think anybody has said Crolla is ready for Burns. He isn't. People are just exploring the argument that beating Rees is a reason for suggesting he has earned it.

Its rich to come on here laughing at Crolla and then throwing Terry Flannigans name into the ring like he is a proven better fighter.

there's just been a british fight of the year candidate, and "rees was poor", "crolla was poor."

what, because neither dominated the other, both are regarded as poor?

crolla won, with an interesting, experimental strategy, of not using his own jab, to prevent rees from stealing openings with the sneaky counters he relies on. so crolla was fighting without his full armoury, because rees is so good at slipping, countering and landing damaging shots early on.

so it was a controlled performance, with crolla not giving rees the openings and using some of his other tools - at the right time. this, inevitably, saw crolla concede some rounds but he stepped it up and took over when he needed to. he was able to stick to a strategy suitable for the opponent, without giving the old pro enough chances to turn things 'round.

in subsequent fights, you may see crolla add to is armoury. this was a mature performance and a good fight. hard to believe the negative feedback after a performance like this. we know crolla's not a flashy, show-off type. because there aren't the fancy moves doesn't mean he's average, by any means.

on this forum, ppl often judge harshly. with burns recently, he has a good world class run, but you judge him only by broner, the 2 times broner looked great, the 2 times he was able to make 135. if broner never gets near 135 again, you'll always judge burns by this version of broner...now crolla, he becomes the man domestically, he'll get destroyed by burns. how about ignoring sky rhetoric, ignoring the promoters, give crolla a chance maybe to continue adding to his game, and , say, add the commonwealth or European titles, take the reliable, traditional big three route that Jamie McDonnell showed us can work.

Horse wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:Seriously. You are passionate about your ratings, and think they are more credible than the Ring.

Go out there and make a difference.

Good luck Horse

Shut up, you boring git.

Do you insult people so readily in the real world? Show some self respect and stop blathering on with the same tired insults.

Horse is dragging you into the trenches Rocket. Don't.Let.It.Happen

Autobarn wrote:there's just been a british fight of the year candidate, and "rees was poor", "crolla was poor."

what, because neither dominated the other, both are regarded as poor?

crolla won, with an interesting, experimental strategy, of not using his own jab, to prevent rees from stealing openings with the sneaky counters he relies on. so crolla was fighting without his full armoury, because rees is so good at slipping, countering and landing damaging shots early on.

so it was a controlled performance, with crolla not giving rees the openings and using some of his other tools - at the right time. this, inevitably, saw crolla concede some rounds but he stepped it up and took over when he needed to. he was able to stick to a strategy suitable for the opponent, without giving the old pro enough chances to turn things 'round.

in subsequent fights, you may see crolla add to is armoury. this was a mature performance and a good fight. hard to believe the negative feedback after a performance like this. we know crolla's not a flashy, show-off type. because there aren't the fancy moves doesn't mean he's average, by any means.

on this forum, ppl often judge harshly. with burns recently, he has a good world class run, but you judge him only by broner, the 2 times broner looked great, the 2 times he was able to make 135. if broner never gets near 135 again, you'll always judge burns by this version of broner...now crolla, he becomes the man domestically, he'll get destroyed by burns. how about ignoring sky rhetoric, ignoring the promoters, give crolla a chance maybe to continue adding to his game, and , say, add the commonwealth or European titles, take the reliable, traditional big three route that Jamie McDonnell showed us can work.

Its always the same pal. People don't like to take the positives, it started literally about 30 seconds after the decision. Great post.

Horse wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:Seriously. You are passionate about your ratings, and think they are more credible than the Ring.

Go out there and make a difference.

Good luck Horse

Shut up, you boring git.

Do you insult people so readily in the real world? Show some self respect and stop blathering on with the same tired insults.

It is not an insult.

We got to the jist that despite Rees being an ex world champion and long time Euro champion, you considered him not an elite lightweight, and beating him still makes a fighter not very good.

Now I want you to be able to make these feelings reality. Because this evening Anthony Crolla has a high ranking due to the lofty position of Rees, whilst you think that is unfair.

So people can bleat that he needs to fight X, Y and Z but it doesn't matter, he has the ranking...tomorrow morning, he will still be highly ranked. Your opinion is totally irrelevant, unless you change that.

Good luck...your passion shines through

DMA1987 wrote:

Autobarn wrote:there's just been a british fight of the year candidate, and "rees was poor", "crolla was poor."

what, because neither dominated the other, both are regarded as poor?

crolla won, with an interesting, experimental strategy, of not using his own jab, to prevent rees from stealing openings with the sneaky counters he relies on. so crolla was fighting without his full armoury, because rees is so good at slipping, countering and landing damaging shots early on.

so it was a controlled performance, with crolla not giving rees the openings and using some of his other tools - at the right time. this, inevitably, saw crolla concede some rounds but he stepped it up and took over when he needed to. he was able to stick to a strategy suitable for the opponent, without giving the old pro enough chances to turn things 'round.

in subsequent fights, you may see crolla add to is armoury. this was a mature performance and a good fight. hard to believe the negative feedback after a performance like this. we know crolla's not a flashy, show-off type. because there aren't the fancy moves doesn't mean he's average, by any means.

on this forum, ppl often judge harshly. with burns recently, he has a good world class run, but you judge him only by broner, the 2 times broner looked great, the 2 times he was able to make 135. if broner never gets near 135 again, you'll always judge burns by this version of broner...now crolla, he becomes the man domestically, he'll get destroyed by burns. how about ignoring sky rhetoric, ignoring the promoters, give crolla a chance maybe to continue adding to his game, and , say, add the commonwealth or European titles, take the reliable, traditional big three route that Jamie McDonnell showed us can work.

Its always the same pal. People don't like to take the positives, it started literally about 30 seconds after the decision. Great post.

To be fair, it was sky bigging him up last night haha.

DMA1987 wrote:

Horse wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:Seriously. You are passionate about your ratings, and think they are more credible than the Ring.

Go out there and make a difference.

Good luck Horse

Shut up, you boring git.

Do you insult people so readily in the real world? Show some self respect and stop blathering on with the same tired insults.

Horse is dragging you into the trenches Rocket. Don't.Let.It.Happen

Your right...won't reply to him again.

Dragged down to the lowest common denomonator...not good

columbo wrote: To be fair, it was sky bigging him up last night haha.

Thats what he is saying. Rather than everyone banging on about how shit sky were, let it go.

DMA1987 wrote:Don't.Let.It.Happen

Why add full stops in the middle of a sentence?

Don't. Be. Stupid.

Horse wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:Don't.Let.It.Happen

Why add full stops in the middle of a sentence?

Don't. Be. Stupid.

Move along Horse. Trenches is my middle name

Horse wrote:

Autobarn wrote:I thought hatton still promoted crolla.

do you think there's some conspiracy against the human race orchestrated by barry hearn's son, and beamed to us by sky sports, which can only be unmasked perhaps by wearing special sunglasses, similar to the rowdy roddy piper movie, THEY LIVE (1988)?

Everyone saw the propaganda, don't act like it didn't happen.

thepocketrocket wrote:It is not an insult.

We got to the jist that despite Rees being an ex world champion and long time Euro champion, you considered him not an elite lightweight, and beating him still makes a fighter not very good.

Now I want you to be able to make these feelings reality. Because this evening Anthony Crolla has a high ranking due to the lofty position of Rees, whilst you think that is unfair.

So people can bleat that he needs to fight X, Y and Z but it doesn't matter, he has the ranking...tomorrow morning, he will still be highly ranked. Your opinion is totally irrelevant, unless you change that.

Good luck...your passion shines through

Most people still think Crolla is unworthy of fighting Burns, so smoke on that you bloody reptile.

DMA1987 wrote:

daviddee wrote:This is a joke.. Crolla wasn't that impressive last night anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.. Rees was poor last night and the fight was very close with typical sky commentating being a joke. I had this a draw and don't really like either fighter both really over rated.. As for Crolla v Burns that is a complete mismatch.. Crolla talked about going to super feather where at least 5 British contenders would beat him... Even at lightweight there is British fighters who would beat him and obviously he has already been beaten by Derry Mathews.. The only guy in Britain even nearly ready for Ricky Burns is Terry Flannigan.. If Crolla is fighting at lightweight he should fight the winner of Mathews v Coyle.. Then maybe Liam Walsh or Flannigan.. He won't get past these guys so why throw him in with Ricky.. Ar for Kevin Mitchell I know he would beat Crolla handily and was there not a rumour John Murray put Crolla down in Sparring?? But yes Crolla is ready and deserves a crack at Ricky Burns

I don't think Rees was poor last night. He was very narrowly beaten by a kid who did better. Rees said afterwards he didn't hit him with as much as usual because of Crollas movement, not because he didn't have it anymore.

I don't think anybody has said Crolla is ready for Burns. He isn't. People are just exploring the argument that beating Rees is a reason for suggesting he has earned it.

Its rich to come on here laughing at Crolla and then throwing Terry Flannigans name into the ring like he is a proven better fighter.

Did Flannigan not win the Prizefighter.. I'm not saying he is proven I'm saying he is better!! Rees was poor not the same guy that beat Mathews simple as that..

daviddee wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

daviddee wrote:This is a joke.. Crolla wasn't that impressive last night anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.. Rees was poor last night and the fight was very close with typical sky commentating being a joke. I had this a draw and don't really like either fighter both really over rated.. As for Crolla v Burns that is a complete mismatch.. Crolla talked about going to super feather where at least 5 British contenders would beat him... Even at lightweight there is British fighters who would beat him and obviously he has already been beaten by Derry Mathews.. The only guy in Britain even nearly ready for Ricky Burns is Terry Flannigan.. If Crolla is fighting at lightweight he should fight the winner of Mathews v Coyle.. Then maybe Liam Walsh or Flannigan.. He won't get past these guys so why throw him in with Ricky.. Ar for Kevin Mitchell I know he would beat Crolla handily and was there not a rumour John Murray put Crolla down in Sparring?? But yes Crolla is ready and deserves a crack at Ricky Burns

I don't think Rees was poor last night. He was very narrowly beaten by a kid who did better. Rees said afterwards he didn't hit him with as much as usual because of Crollas movement, not because he didn't have it anymore.

I don't think anybody has said Crolla is ready for Burns. He isn't. People are just exploring the argument that beating Rees is a reason for suggesting he has earned it.

Its rich to come on here laughing at Crolla and then throwing Terry Flannigans name into the ring like he is a proven better fighter.

Did Flannigan not win the Prizefighter.. I'm not saying he is proven I'm saying he is better!! Rees was poor not the same guy that beat Mathews simple as that..

So what? 3 rounders will never be a substitute for 12. Its good for a quick record build and a bit of money, but thats about it. You are grasping.

thepocketrocket wrote:Your right...won't reply to him again.

Dragged down to the lowest common denomonator...not good

You uppity wretch, who do you think you are?

You've been spouting utter garbage on this thread and you are somehow superior to me?

Crolla is not a world level fighter, he has shown that be losing to Sykes twice and losing and drawing against Mathews. Getting a lucky win against Rees doesn't make Crolla a world beater.

Horse you crack me up ..... i think you're somewhat insane but i do like how you stick to your guns haha

DMA1987 wrote:Move along Horse. Trenches is my middle name

Outlasting your opponent doesn't mean you win.

columbo wrote:Horse you crack me up ..... i think you're somewhat insane but i do like how you stick to your guns haha

Thanks, columbo.

Horse wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:Move along Horse. Trenches is my middle name

Outlasting your opponent doesn't mean you win.

Tell that to our lass.

daviddee wrote:This is a joke.. Crolla wasn't that impressive last night anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.. Rees was poor last night and the fight was very close with typical sky commentating being a joke. I had this a draw and don't really like either fighter both really over rated.. As for Crolla v Burns that is a complete mismatch.. Crolla talked about going to super feather where at least 5 British contenders would beat him... Even at lightweight there is British fighters who would beat him and obviously he has already been beaten by Derry Mathews.. The only guy in Britain even nearly ready for Ricky Burns is Terry Flannigan.. If Crolla is fighting at lightweight he should fight the winner of Mathews v Coyle.. Then maybe Liam Walsh or Flannigan.. He won't get past these guys so why throw him in with Ricky.. Ar for Kevin Mitchell I know he would beat Crolla handily and was there not a rumour John Murray put Crolla down in Sparring?? But yes Crolla is ready and deserves a crack at Ricky Burns

Flannigan is the only lightweight ready for burns? I feel you've got that wrong there David. Flannigan is decent but that's all. His PF win while slightly merited doesn't mean much.

ShadrachSimmo wrote:

daviddee wrote:This is a joke.. Crolla wasn't that impressive last night anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.. Rees was poor last night and the fight was very close with typical sky commentating being a joke. I had this a draw and don't really like either fighter both really over rated.. As for Crolla v Burns that is a complete mismatch.. Crolla talked about going to super feather where at least 5 British contenders would beat him... Even at lightweight there is British fighters who would beat him and obviously he has already been beaten by Derry Mathews.. The only guy in Britain even nearly ready for Ricky Burns is Terry Flannigan.. If Crolla is fighting at lightweight he should fight the winner of Mathews v Coyle.. Then maybe Liam Walsh or Flannigan.. He won't get past these guys so why throw him in with Ricky.. Ar for Kevin Mitchell I know he would beat Crolla handily and was there not a rumour John Murray put Crolla down in Sparring?? But yes Crolla is ready and deserves a crack at Ricky Burns

Flannigan is the only lightweight ready for burns? I feel you've got that wrong there David. Flannigan is decent but that's all. His PF win while slightly merited doesn't mean much.

Nearly ready is what I said mate.. Think he is the best under Ricky in Britain at the minute.. He needs a few more fights stepping up the levels. Burns should be looking at Abril and Vasquez not Crolla in my opinion..

I think that Mitchell is the best lightweight outside of Burns domestically. That's not saying that Crolla wouldnt put up a better effort though as we all know styles make fights.

daviddee wrote:

ShadrachSimmo wrote:

daviddee wrote:This is a joke.. Crolla wasn't that impressive last night anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.. Rees was poor last night and the fight was very close with typical sky commentating being a joke. I had this a draw and don't really like either fighter both really over rated.. As for Crolla v Burns that is a complete mismatch.. Crolla talked about going to super feather where at least 5 British contenders would beat him... Even at lightweight there is British fighters who would beat him and obviously he has already been beaten by Derry Mathews.. The only guy in Britain even nearly ready for Ricky Burns is Terry Flannigan.. If Crolla is fighting at lightweight he should fight the winner of Mathews v Coyle.. Then maybe Liam Walsh or Flannigan.. He won't get past these guys so why throw him in with Ricky.. Ar for Kevin Mitchell I know he would beat Crolla handily and was there not a rumour John Murray put Crolla down in Sparring?? But yes Crolla is ready and deserves a crack at Ricky Burns

Flannigan is the only lightweight ready for burns? I feel you've got that wrong there David. Flannigan is decent but that's all. His PF win while slightly merited doesn't mean much.

Nearly ready is what I said mate.. Think he is the best under Ricky in Britain at the minute.. He needs a few more fights stepping up the levels. Burns should be looking at Abril and Vasquez not Crolla in my opinion..

Thats the main point here,Ricky should be looking at champions or at the very least Terence Crawford,that would get him some much needed exposure stateside or mybe even Antonio Demarco

daviddee wrote:

ShadrachSimmo wrote:

daviddee wrote:This is a joke.. Crolla wasn't that impressive last night anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.. Rees was poor last night and the fight was very close with typical sky commentating being a joke. I had this a draw and don't really like either fighter both really over rated.. As for Crolla v Burns that is a complete mismatch.. Crolla talked about going to super feather where at least 5 British contenders would beat him... Even at lightweight there is British fighters who would beat him and obviously he has already been beaten by Derry Mathews.. The only guy in Britain even nearly ready for Ricky Burns is Terry Flannigan.. If Crolla is fighting at lightweight he should fight the winner of Mathews v Coyle.. Then maybe Liam Walsh or Flannigan.. He won't get past these guys so why throw him in with Ricky.. Ar for Kevin Mitchell I know he would beat Crolla handily and was there not a rumour John Murray put Crolla down in Sparring?? But yes Crolla is ready and deserves a crack at Ricky Burns

Flannigan is the only lightweight ready for burns? I feel you've got that wrong there David. Flannigan is decent but that's all. His PF win while slightly merited doesn't mean much.

Nearly ready is what I said mate.. Think he is the best under Ricky in Britain at the minute.. He needs a few more fights stepping up the levels. Burns should be looking at Abril and Vasquez not Crolla in my opinion..

You did say nearly tae.

Rees and Crolla, Mitchell, Murray and Gethin are the top end of the domestic.