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Re: Sugar Ray Leonard ----

Posted: 21 Jan 2014, 13:56
by drunkenpiper36
The timing of Leonard - Duran III wasn't ideal as I think most fans wanted to see an "immediate" rubber match. But for what its worth, Ray did fight Duran a third time and beat him in the same calendar year that Roberto beat Iran Barkley..

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard ----

Posted: 22 Jan 2014, 15:24
by elmersalsa
drunkenpiper36 wrote:The timing of Leonard - Duran III wasn't ideal as I think most fans wanted to see an "immediate" rubber match. But for what its worth, Ray did fight Duran a third time and beat him in the same calendar year that Roberto beat Iran Barkley..
It was TOO LATE of a fight. Both were shot.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard ----

Posted: 22 Jan 2014, 15:52
by drunkenpiper36
elmersalsa wrote:
drunkenpiper36 wrote:The timing of Leonard - Duran III wasn't ideal as I think most fans wanted to see an "immediate" rubber match. But for what its worth, Ray did fight Duran a third time and beat him in the same calendar year that Roberto beat Iran Barkley..
It was TOO LATE of a fight. Both were shot.
Yes precisely why I made the statement about the fans wanting one sooner... Next time try telling me something that we both don't already know.

Re: Sugar Ray Leonard ----

Posted: 22 Jan 2014, 22:21
by Perseus
man wrote:
Perseus wrote:How can not giving a rematch to anyone who throws up his hands in the middle of a round and quits count against Leonard or any other fighter?
that's only part of the story. the other is that
duran came in after making too much weight
and was mocked into giving up. but the more
important one is that duran had won the first
fight. that is the whole point here.

i think when two ATGs meet, have two fights,
each one grabs a win ... then a determining
third one seems more the rule than exception
to me.

but i do see your point, is just not my way of
seeing it. i feel sugar ray always played his
popularity card very well when it came to
picking his fights. i do not at all imply that he
ducked fighters, after all at the latest his pick
of marvin proved that beyond any doubt. but
he did deny in my opinion some rematches.
i think especially duran and hearns would have
deserved better. but, again, my personal view.
If you notice I didn't say anything about the other guys just the one who quit.
ANY fighter who just throws up his hands and quits in the middle of a round has also thrown away any case for deserving another fight with the guy he quit on.
That fact that were 1-1 is irrelevant, if you quit you relieve the other guy of any perceived obligation to give you another chance.