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Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 20:17
by DMA1987
palooka wrote:
DMA1987 wrote: True. Though plenty are acting like Groves won the fight. Interesting that the large majority on here dont think he would have.
I think Groves would have done him and was robbed of the opportunity; lots of posters have seen Froch end strong but who's to say Groves wouldn't have done the same?

Froch is not a machine, he's a 36 year old man who had taken some real hammer, Groves is 11 years younger and trained for a 12 round world title fight; he took more out of Froch than Froch did him, he didn't even wobble or go to the floor!

Honestly, can you imagine the ref in the Hamed v Johnson (or Alicea) bout? We'd have been denied a superstar.
The majority of a pro-Groves forum.

Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 08:04
by palooka
DMA1987 wrote:
palooka wrote:
DMA1987 wrote: True. Though plenty are acting like Groves won the fight. Interesting that the large majority on here dont think he would have.
I think Groves would have done him and was robbed of the opportunity; lots of posters have seen Froch end strong but who's to say Groves wouldn't have done the same?

Froch is not a machine, he's a 36 year old man who had taken some real hammer, Groves is 11 years younger and trained for a 12 round world title fight; he took more out of Froch than Froch did him, he didn't even wobble or go to the floor!

Honestly, can you imagine the ref in the Hamed v Johnson (or Alicea) bout? We'd have been denied a superstar.
The majority of a pro-Groves forum.
No one knows for certain how George would have coped and after the punches that Froch took early in the fight no one can be sure he'd have had as much as normal in the tank. It'll be argued over for ages.

Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 08:40
by keithmoonhangover
palooka wrote:No one knows for certain how George would have coped and after the punches that Froch took early in the fight no one can be sure he'd have had as much as normal in the tank. It'll be argued over for ages.
How did you have the fight scored after 8 rounds?

Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 08:43
by BLASTER100
keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:No one knows for certain how George would have coped and after the punches that Froch took early in the fight no one can be sure he'd have had as much as normal in the tank. It'll be argued over for ages.
How did you have the fight scored after 8 rounds?
78-73

Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 08:50
by keithmoonhangover
BLASTER100 wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:No one knows for certain how George would have coped and after the punches that Froch took early in the fight no one can be sure he'd have had as much as normal in the tank. It'll be argued over for ages.
How did you have the fight scored after 8 rounds?
78-73
So if the right wasn't stopped and Froch got a 10-8 in the ninth, Groves would only be three points ahead with three rounds to go. It's not the kind of massive difference people are making out.

Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 09:05
by palooka
keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:No one knows for certain how George would have coped and after the punches that Froch took early in the fight no one can be sure he'd have had as much as normal in the tank. It'll be argued over for ages.
How did you have the fight scored after 8 rounds?
I'd have to watch it again with paper and pencil Keith; the thing for me was that the rounds he won - he really won big, I'd not seen Froch disturbed like that so regualrly. Froch won a couple of rounds on the quiet but Groves took the rounds he won in an assertive and powerful way.

Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 09:09
by keithmoonhangover
palooka wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:No one knows for certain how George would have coped and after the punches that Froch took early in the fight no one can be sure he'd have had as much as normal in the tank. It'll be argued over for ages.
How did you have the fight scored after 8 rounds?
I'd have to watch it again with paper and pencil Keith; the thing for me was that the rounds he won - he really won big, I'd not seen Froch disturbed like that so regualrly. Froch won a couple of rounds on the quiet but Groves took the rounds he won in an assertive and powerful way.
I agree with you mate. I was wincing when I saw the shots Groves was landing. They only count as 10-9 like all the other round though.

Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 09:15
by palooka
:salut: That's why the score cards can be misleading, for me Groves was winning the bout in a punishing way, the scorecards didn't reflect that.

In any case; Froch has the W and Groves will be back - he's a young man with a future.

Re: What would have been the outcome if the fight was't stopped?

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 09:17
by keithmoonhangover
palooka wrote:Groves will be back - he's a young man with a future.
I hope so, he fought out of his skin until he came unstuck.