The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
The only Klitschko fights that I'd call good were Wlad/Brewster 1 & Vitali/Lewis. Vitali/Chisora wasn't bad, that makes it a good fight for him.
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drunkenpiper36
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Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
That's nice.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
drunkenpiper36 wrote:That's nice.
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Ambling Alp II
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Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
Just wanted to see what you possibly come up with. I don't think there has been a good heavyweight fight since Lennox Lewis. If you think these were good fights, then there is no wonder that we disagree so much on this.Ezzard wrote:Okay... If you're asking me because you're hoping to ascertain what I define as a good fight then fair enough...
I'd add...
The Klitschko defeats were all good fights.
Maskaev-Rahman
Liakhovic-Brewster
Thompson-Price II
Wlad-Peter
Adamek-Arreola
Helenius-Chisora
Banks-Mitchell
Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
drunkenpiper36 wrote:Brewster vs Meehan - Fun fight to watch. Not much skill involved but a lot of big punches exchanged
Sanders vs Vitali - Another entertaining bout with some dramatic moments
Wlad vs Peter I - Not bad either.
Peter vs Maskaev - Big shots exchanged early on.
Great fights
Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
As expected. I suppose we went through the motions thoughAmbling Alp II wrote:Just wanted to see what you possibly come up with. I don't think there has been a good heavyweight fight since Lennox Lewis. If you think these were good fights, then there is no wonder that we disagree so much on this.Ezzard wrote:Okay... If you're asking me because you're hoping to ascertain what I define as a good fight then fair enough...
I'd add...
The Klitschko defeats were all good fights.
Maskaev-Rahman
Liakhovic-Brewster
Thompson-Price II
Wlad-Peter
Adamek-Arreola
Helenius-Chisora
Banks-Mitchell
Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
But, Drunk, Dokes still couldn't hit after that bigger build, he struggled with a lot of top fighters at that time. Always will respect Michael's stand during his comeback, but wasn't quite the same fighter that he was in his prime.drunkenpiper36 wrote:I disagree with that Nile. Dokes was reincarnated version of himself in the late 80's.. The early 80's Dokes was more of a boxer while the later version set down on his punches. He was working under different management, fighting with a different style and bigger build, plus drug free for the first time in years... 1982 Dokes wasn't the right model to beat Holyfield.
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drunkenpiper36
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Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
Nile4000 wrote:But, Drunk, Dokes still couldn't hit after that bigger build, he struggled with a lot of top fighters at that time. Always will respect Michael's stand during his comeback, but wasn't quite the same fighter that he was in his prime.drunkenpiper36 wrote:I disagree with that Nile. Dokes was reincarnated version of himself in the late 80's.. The early 80's Dokes was more of a boxer while the later version set down on his punches. He was working under different management, fighting with a different style and bigger build, plus drug free for the first time in years... 1982 Dokes wasn't the right model to beat Holyfield.
Dokes hit pretty hard from 1987 - 1990. His power took a dive from about 92' onward and he was once again using drugs. But a few years in the late 80's he was on a roll. Early 80's Dokes struggled with Ocasio, Cobb, Weaver and got KO"d by Coetzee. Doesnt' tell the whole story I know, but I don't see this version of Dokes BEATING the real deal.
Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
Don't know, the prime versions of Page, Witherspoon, Thomas, Tillis, and Dokes would have given Holyfield fits to the minimum.And Tate would've just outboxed him.drunkenpiper36 wrote:Nile4000 wrote:But, Drunk, Dokes still couldn't hit after that bigger build, he struggled with a lot of top fighters at that time. Always will respect Michael's stand during his comeback, but wasn't quite the same fighter that he was in his prime.drunkenpiper36 wrote:I disagree with that Nile. Dokes was reincarnated version of himself in the late 80's.. The early 80's Dokes was more of a boxer while the later version set down on his punches. He was working under different management, fighting with a different style and bigger build, plus drug free for the first time in years... 1982 Dokes wasn't the right model to beat Holyfield.
Dokes hit pretty hard from 1987 - 1990. His power took a dive from about 92' onward and he was once again using drugs. But a few years in the late 80's he was on a roll. Early 80's Dokes struggled with Ocasio, Cobb, Weaver and got KO"d by Coetzee. Doesnt' tell the whole story I know, but I don't see this version of Dokes BEATING the real deal.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
Holyfield was lucky to come into the division at the right time.If he had come into the heavies 1981-1983, he would've had his ass handed to him.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
The first joke was really funny, you should have left on a high note.
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drunkenpiper36
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Re: The Larry Holmes' Heavyweight Era: 1978-85
We're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one.Nile4000 wrote:Holyfield was lucky to come into the division at the right time.If he had come into the heavies 1981-1983, he would've had his ass handed to him.![]()