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Counter-puncher wrote:

columbo wrote:What's the odds on Khan blaming (if he does lose) the loss on Hunter, his wife's pregnancy, allah, Max Clifford's conviction, etc?

probably roughly the same as the odds on any other fighter finding excuses after they lose.

dunno if you noticed, but it's quite common, amongst fighters.

Not to the extent that Khan throws them out. He's always got an excuse. After the Diaz fight he complained that making 140 was killing him and he should of moved up to 147 years ago. This despite the fact that he insisted on the the weight for that fight being 143 lbs.

sure, it's different when Khan does it, I get you

danamba7 wrote:

columbo wrote:What's the odds on Khan blaming (if he does lose) the loss on Hunter, his wife's pregnancy, allah, Max Clifford's conviction, etc?

A Muslim blaming something on Allah!? Not even Khan would do that! Hunter or Khan's wife could well be in the firing line though!

Usually it's his webcam that's in the firing line.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

palooka wrote:Didn't Khan wreck Ortiz in 2 rounds as an amateur?

I don't know, but Nick Wells and Duane Bobick bombed out Larry Holmes as amateurs. I'm sure that would have counted for a lot in the pros.

"You don't know" lol

Tuan_Jim wrote:

danamba7 wrote:

columbo wrote:What's the odds on Khan blaming (if he does lose) the loss on Hunter, his wife's pregnancy, allah, Max Clifford's conviction, etc?

A Muslim blaming something on Allah!? Not even Khan would do that! Hunter or Khan's wife could well be in the firing line though!

Usually it's his webcam that's in the firing line.

That's below the belt.

I fully expect Khan to win this on points. Will be interesting to see how dizzy the people making Collazo out to be odds on favourite will get after the fight with their u-turns?

Lenny wrote:I fully expect Khan to win this on points. Will be interesting to see how dizzy the people making Collazo out to be odds on favourite will get after the fight with their u-turns?

On what basis do you expect u-turns?

Khan far too quick and skilful and, presuming he uses his brain, boxes his way to a unanimous decision; probably with the odd hairy moment along the way.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Lenny wrote:I fully expect Khan to win this on points. Will be interesting to see how dizzy the people making Collazo out to be odds on favourite will get after the fight with their u-turns?

On what basis do you expect u-turns?

Surely if Collazo is a big favourite then surely Khan would deserve some credit for beating him? Unless there is some sort of mass change of opinion?

Lenny wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Lenny wrote:I fully expect Khan to win this on points. Will be interesting to see how dizzy the people making Collazo out to be odds on favourite will get after the fight with their u-turns?

On what basis do you expect u-turns?

Surely if Collazo is a big favourite then surely Khan would deserve some credit for beating him? Unless there is some sort of mass change of opinion?

He's not a big favorite, he represents good betting value.

GooalaShooola wrote:Khan far too quick and skilful and, presuming he uses his brain, boxes his way to a unanimous decision; probably with the odd hairy moment along the way.

Red flag number one.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Lenny wrote:I fully expect Khan to win this on points. Will be interesting to see how dizzy the people making Collazo out to be odds on favourite will get after the fight with their u-turns?

On what basis do you expect u-turns?

On what basis do you think you are going to hold onto your money ? Make sure you save some for your Bus home.

Anzi wrote:On what basis do you think you are going to hold onto your money ? Make sure you save some for your Bus home.

OK, Haroon. Take care now.

Collazo is getting overrated. I could see him beating Khan, but I think Khan on points is most likely.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Anzi wrote:On what basis do you think you are going to hold onto your money ? Make sure you save some for your Bus home.

OK, Haroon. Take care now.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

GooalaShooola wrote:Khan far too quick and skilful and, presuming he uses his brain, boxes his way to a unanimous decision; probably with the odd hairy moment along the way.

Red flag number one.

I did think that as I was typing it.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Anzi wrote:On what basis do you think you are going to hold onto your money ? Make sure you save some for your Bus home.

OK, Haroon. Take care now.

Really? On what basis do you think I am Haroon? Just because someone does not agree with your point of view? Typical forum response from the egotistical ones.

Collazo's a good fighter no doubt. But he's been around for ages (made his pro debut when Khan was 13!) and I think the Ortiz win is flattering him a bit. He hadn't looked that great prior to that. Khan should win this, and I expect him to. He might even get the TKO in the late rounds from volume alone.

I agree that the Ortiz win flatters Collazo but it will have done his confidence the world of good. He may not be elite but he's a good solid Welter who is active, on a winning streak and coming off a confidence boosting win. Although Khan has done very well against boxers and southpaws in the past, I feel he may have already peaked and in his last two bouts he looked like a fighter who is either on the decline or at the very least not showing any improvements under his new trainer. His fragile chin has looked even worse since the Garcia defeat. Collazo may not be a puncher but I'm sure he hits hard enough to hurt Khan. Khan says the break has done him good, but to me an inactive fighter with a shaky chin moving up a weight division against a bigger man with momentum behind him is a recipe for disaster.

For the record, I have staked £1,200 on Collazo to win at varying levels from 7/2 down to 11/4. I'm not saying it's guaranteed money and I know it's not impossible that Khan could come out and box his way to an easy decision, but at the odds I think Collazo is as worthy a bet as I've seen. If Khan wins I'll be a bit disappointed but will have no regrets.

johnswan1 wrote:I agree that the Ortiz win flatters Collazo but it will have done his confidence the world of good. He may not be elite but he's a good solid Welter who is active, on a winning streak and coming off a confidence boosting win. Although Khan has done very well against boxers and southpaws in the past, I feel he may have already peaked and in his last two bouts he looked like a fighter who is either on the decline or at the very least not showing any improvements under his new trainer. His fragile chin has looked even worse since the Garcia defeat. Collazo may not be a puncher but I'm sure he hits hard enough to hurt Khan. Khan says the break has done him good, but to me an inactive fighter with a shaky chin moving up a weight division against a bigger man with momentum behind him is a recipe for disaster.

For the record, I have staked £1,200 on Collazo to win at varying levels from 7/2 down to 11/4. I'm not saying it's guaranteed money and I know it's not impossible that Khan could come out and box his way to an easy decision, but at the odds I think Collazo is as worthy a bet as I've seen. If Khan wins I'll be a bit disappointed but will have no regrets.

You flash sod

Not that flash and not a regular thing, I do like the odd punt in boxing but this is my largest ever by far. I really rate boxing as a great sport for betting on. The last decent bet I had was Kovalev by KO over Cleverly (couldn't believe Kovalev was bookies underdog in that fight) but have also had my fair share of losers over the years.

johnswan1 wrote:Not that flash and not a regular thing, I do like the odd punt in boxing but this is my largest ever by far. I really rate boxing as a great sport for betting on. The last decent bet I had was Kovalev by KO over Cleverly (couldn't believe Kovalev was bookies underdog in that fight) but have also had my fair share of losers over the years.

Yeah boxing is a strange one as they can often get it terribly wrong. Bute being favourite to beat Froch in Nottingham looks a crazy choice in hind sight.

johnswan1 wrote:Not that flash and not a regular thing, I do like the odd punt in boxing but this is my largest ever by far. I really rate boxing as a great sport for betting on. The last decent bet I had was Kovalev by KO over Cleverly (couldn't believe Kovalev was bookies underdog in that fight) but have also had my fair share of losers over the years.

John, you need to get in the betting thread. Can't believe I haven't seen you post in there. Lots of solid tipsters posting. Insider, reggaereggae, Boxing Prospect, Hagler, GlobalBox...and more. lots of people who know their stuff.

GooalaShooola wrote:Khan far too quick and skilful and, presuming he uses his brain, boxes his way to a unanimous decision; probably with the odd hairy moment along the way.

That's how I see it - hopefully Hunter can help him with the brain bit!

Khan will blow Collazo away. Collazo has been inactive over the years and Khan is desperate for a Mayweather showdown. Khan within 6 rounds.