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Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 16:55
by jameswilson
expe wrote:
jameswilson wrote:Haha Halling slagging the WBA to start this one off. I actually think they are probably the worst body at the mo because of the number of titles. Their mandatories and rankings often don't seem up to scratch either.

I am looking forward to this one. Wake would have been better no doubt, but when people say they think Jamoye is better you know people are going OTT.
Wasn't really listening, what did he say about the WBA?
Like Neil Gee said, basically made a sarcastic comment about how Otake wasn't rated but then 'abracadabra' he appeared in the rankings after this fight got made.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 16:55
by dookus
Nice touch by the Japanese cornermen with their T-shirts

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 16:56
by jameswilson
Watch tut eads.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 16:59
by Finch
Hope Quigg finishes this early cos I am bored!

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:01
by lefty
My stream has just got a black screen. Dont know if it's just me having this problem though

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:02
by lefty
Ok it's back. How's Otake doing so far?

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:04
by jameswilson
lefty wrote:Ok it's back. How's Otake doing so far?
Taking a ton of body shots. But keeps coming forward without any real power as expected (from the 1 minute of footage over 2 fights we have all seen.)

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:04
by Boxerbeetle
jameswilson wrote:
lefty wrote:They've spelt Hidenori's name wrong havent they? lol
Well to be fair we spell Japanese names how they sound. If we were to write it correctly we would be using the Japanese alphabet.
Yeah, it's similar with Russian/Eastern European fighters - they use a completely different alphabet, so there's no 'correct' way of spelling the names in English, just the closest thing available. (The same could be said for some Welsh fighters btw!)

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:05
by Fatsam
Just got stunned a bit in the second, seems to be a decent boxer but looks to have nothing to bother quigg. UD for quigg me thinks

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:06
by lefty
Someone on the chat on the side of the stream "Fred West would have both of these under the floorboards in 3 rounds" LOL

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:06
by lefty
jameswilson wrote:
lefty wrote:Ok it's back. How's Otake doing so far?
Taking a ton of body shots. But keeps coming forward without any real power as expected (from the 1 minute of footage over 2 fights we have all seen.)
Ok cheers mate.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:06
by jameswilson
Boxerbeetle wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
lefty wrote:They've spelt Hidenori's name wrong havent they? lol
Well to be fair we spell Japanese names how they sound. If we were to write it correctly we would be using the Japanese alphabet.
Yeah, it's similar with Russian/Eastern European fighters - they use a completely different alphabet, so there's no 'correct' way of spelling the names in English, just the closest thing available. (The same could be said for some Welsh fighters btw!)
Ermmm, I can assure you the Welsh use the same alphabet as English. There are more letters but they just involve extra letters, for example c and ch, or d and dd are different letters.

Edit - Actually I get what you mean now. Wales having different names names for places etc.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:06
by rossij8
These body shots will kick in at some point

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:07
by Finn
lefty wrote:Someone on the chat on the side of the stream "Fred West would have both of these under the floorboards in 3 rounds" LOL
Ha ha

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:10
by lefty
well otake is definietly tough and trying his hardest so i give him credit for that.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:14
by lefty
well if only otake had some power.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:16
by dookus
Otake is tough as hell

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:16
by rossij8
lefty wrote:well if only otake had some power.
If he did, he wouldn't be fighting Quigg tonight

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:17
by lefty
rossij8 wrote:
lefty wrote:well if only otake had some power.
If he did, he wouldn't be fighting Quigg tonight
Ha ha true

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:18
by jameswilson
lefty wrote:well otake is definietly tough and trying his hardest so i give him credit for that.
Would you agree this isn't an 'abomination.' I repect Boxing prospects opinion and all but there does seem to be some kind of motive behind what he is saying. In my opinion he is a bit 'It's Wake. If it's anyone else outside the top 5 it's not acceptable.' I mean it went from 'oh the fights announced over here, but not in Japan, it isn't happening.' To 'Oh it's announced over there now, it won't happen tho Quigg will fight a late replacement.' To Otake arriving and now lasting into the 6th despite taking a lot of shots (which we knew he would have.)

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:21
by lefty
jameswilson wrote:
lefty wrote:well otake is definietly tough and trying his hardest so i give him credit for that.
Would you agree this isn't an 'abomination.' I repect Boxing prospects opinion and all but there does seem to be some kind of motive behind what he is saying. In my opinion he is a bit 'It's Wake. If it's anyone else outside the top 5 it's not acceptable.' I mean it went from 'oh the fights announced over here, but not in Japan, it isn't happening.' To 'Oh it's announced over there now, it won't happen tho Quigg will fight a late replacement.' To Otake arriving and now lasting into the 6th despite taking a lot of shots (which we knew he would have.)
Yeah admittedly the opponent could be worse. Saying that though it still is very one sided in the sense that otake just doesnt have the firepower to make this interesting aside from being a tough bastard who keeps coming.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:23
by punchdrunkgench
I have to say im finding this whole card very very dull this combined with the wife watching that dame awful x factor shite has led to a down turn in my mood im off to get a line

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:24
by rhino222
I wonder how many grand children otake has?

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:25
by jameswilson
lefty wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
lefty wrote:well otake is definietly tough and trying his hardest so i give him credit for that.
Would you agree this isn't an 'abomination.' I repect Boxing prospects opinion and all but there does seem to be some kind of motive behind what he is saying. In my opinion he is a bit 'It's Wake. If it's anyone else outside the top 5 it's not acceptable.' I mean it went from 'oh the fights announced over here, but not in Japan, it isn't happening.' To 'Oh it's announced over there now, it won't happen tho Quigg will fight a late replacement.' To Otake arriving and now lasting into the 6th despite taking a lot of shots (which we knew he would have.)
Yeah admittedly the opponent could be worse. Saying that though it still is very one sided in the sense that otake just doesnt have the firepower to make this interesting aside from being a tough bastard who keeps coming.
Yeah agreed on that. More a case of Hearn and the matchmaker being smart enough to find a guy with a high ranking who has the style to suit Quigg. I know you think otherwise but I think Martinez's style would play into Quigg's hands. It will be the guys who can box and move while also having enough power to keep him honest that will beat Quigg.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 17:25
by jameswilson
punchdrunkgench wrote:I have to say im finding this whole card very very dull this combined with the wife watching that dame awful x factor shite has led to a down turn in my mood im off to get a line
Ah another one of Manchester Hitman's 10 post alter egos.