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Those 90s albums (OG pressings anyway) are worth big dollar these days.

SNG wrote:Oasis were the first band I ever got into. I was ten when Morning Glory came out and rented the cassette from the library and I loved them then. Don't really listen to them anymore, but they got me into all the music I'm into these days in a way, or at least they were the start.

I bought Be Here Now on vinyl recently, a really nice copy on Creation and it sounds so big on the stereo, I was quite shocked at how good it sounded, the songs were still a bit poo though.

They were catchy tunes I'll give Oasis that, but then so was 'I should be so lucky' by Kylie - doesn't stop it being shite.

Fair play to them, plenty of other folk liked them, and they made a mint, and played some massive gigs, but I always figured Blur would outlast and outproduce them back catalogue wise.

pimp wrote:Calzaghe thinks he will smash froch

Well it's his own fault that that fight didn't get made. Whilst I have a lot of admiration for Calzaghe has a boxer, he was the one who choose to leave the weight division and not take the Froch fight.

So there's not point in him talking about it.

Music and films have gone in the same direction IMO, they just dont make em like they used to. Sure there are some good bands and musicians out there, but where's 'the scene'? Theres no movement happening, nothing to get behind and be a part of that i can see. When i was in my teenage years raves were everywhere, the club scene was buzzing, rap music was fcuking good, the indie scene was flourishing, everyone i knew was buzzing off good music.

Unless i'm an old c*nt i dont see much for teenagers to get behind these days.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote: There's always good music, and there's some brilliant songwriting going on right now - Ed Sheeran, even if you don't like his music is an incredible lyricist, - considering he's a mainstream artist, I'd say it's pretty healthy, though I do find a lot of the current vocoder dominated overproduced pop music pretty anodyne these days.

Ed Sheeran is a wet lettuce. Pretty much sums up the current awful state of music for me. Bland, inoffensive stuff that appeals to parents and kids. Middle class england personified

Each to their own - don't see what class has to do with it - the guy writes very beautiful lyrics - for me Oasis were the most overrated band of all time - football chant lyrics and mock beatles horseshite, few good tunes, but really pretty simple stuff.

Have you actually sat and listened to the first Ed Sheeran album?

class has a lot to do with it these days. There's no anger or rebellion in music as it's drilled out of them while they're studying music in order to not offend their sponsors when they get a break. A group of lads from a council estate are going to struggle when up against that lot as they are seen as a commercial risk rather than a safe bet on sterile mediocrity.

Some will not like oasis but they got a lot of people up doing things as people saw them and could relate to them. If they could do it why can't I?

Ed Sheeran et al make people open their laptops and download a track. It's not going to be talked about in years to come.

One thing I have noticed, and it may be making it up in my head, but there doesn't seem to be a counter culture amongst the young today.

Oasis were very overrated 2 decent albums then a load of crap i think ed is by far the more talented and I'm not that big a ed fan ,
i was never into guitar based rock myself

There's a good documentary film looking back at the 90s Britpop bands, think it's called Live Forever. Not seen it for years but I remember quite enjoying it. If nothing else, it brought back memories of how much I used to fancy Louise from Sleeper (nowhere near as much as Saffron from Republica though, obviously).

Ed Sheeran?

There was just no greater time to be an eighteen year old than '95. It was so optimistic and fun. Christ we all got twatted.....

SNG wrote:One thing I have noticed, and it may be making it up in my head, but there doesn't seem to be a counter culture amongst the young today.

The Internet nipped that in the bud, it stole their hunger. They don't get bored enough to write songs. Nothing's leftfield anymore. Everything's packaged. I wouldn't wana be young now.

Boxerbeetle wrote: (nowhere near as much as Saffron from Republica though, obviously).

fornicating fox!

Two years ago I did a mental health workshop and it ended in me and my mate doing a gig with bonehead. He was a total gent and gave everyone loads of time. I didn't discuss oasis with him cos I got them impression he was sick to death of talking about it.

Anyway, he's a right shy fella, almost camp. It made me think what a crock of shite it was that this band were a bunch of leery hard nuts from the streets. All that nonsense is just as fake as X factor. Cracks me up when transpotters go on about how "authentic" their fav bands are. It's all entertainment.

stevieb_8006 wrote:

SNG wrote:One thing I have noticed, and it may be making it up in my head, but there doesn't seem to be a counter culture amongst the young today.

The Internet nipped that in the bud, it stole their hunger. They don't get bored enough to write songs. Nothing's leftfield anymore. Everything's packaged. I wouldn't wana be young now.

The Internet was a great thing when I was young, music got passed around for free about smaller bands, The Arctic Monkeys for instance, their demos were all on the net and that's how they got so big before they even had a release. I remember going to see them in Wigan and you could tell something was happening, a few weeks later I saw them on the new bands tent at Leeds in 2005 and you couldn't move there were that many people there which is unusual for that tent, that was due to the internet. I was also at the gig at the Ritz the night the first single went to number one, that was a great night. All the interest with Libertines was the same.

I always find it funny how bands that were great at a particular time get really big subsequently on much poorer material. Like Arcade Fire, released an amazing album in '04 and win Grammy Awards for the shite they release now.

stevieb_8006 wrote:Two years ago I did a mental health workshop and it ended in me and my mate doing a gig with bonehead. He was a total gent and gave everyone loads of time. I didn't discuss oasis with him cos I got them impression he was sick to death of talking about it.

Anyway, he's a right shy fella, almost camp. It made me think what a crock of shite it was that this band were a bunch of leery hard nuts from the streets. All that nonsense is just as fake as X factor. Cracks me up when transpotters go on about how "authentic" their fav bands are. It's all entertainment.

Did you see his turn as Walter White the other night on that TFI reunion?

Bonehead's Bank Holiday was a great tune

SNG wrote:

stevieb_8006 wrote:Two years ago I did a mental health workshop and it ended in me and my mate doing a gig with bonehead. He was a total gent and gave everyone loads of time. I didn't discuss oasis with him cos I got them impression he was sick to death of talking about it.

Anyway, he's a right shy fella, almost camp. It made me think what a crock of shite it was that this band were a bunch of leery hard nuts from the streets. All that nonsense is just as fake as X factor. Cracks me up when transpotters go on about how "authentic" their fav bands are. It's all entertainment.

Did you see his turn as Walter White the other night on that TFI reunion?

Yep, thought Liam sounded alright. It was telling that the old guard blew the younguns out of the water. Years and years......just awful. Blur were better WITHOUT their singer ffs

SNG wrote:

stevieb_8006 wrote:

SNG wrote:One thing I have noticed, and it may be making it up in my head, but there doesn't seem to be a counter culture amongst the young today.

The Internet nipped that in the bud, it stole their hunger. They don't get bored enough to write songs. Nothing's leftfield anymore. Everything's packaged. I wouldn't wana be young now.

The Internet was a great thing when I was young, music got passed around for free about smaller bands, The Arctic Monkeys for instance, their demos were all on the net and that's how they got so big before they even had a release. I remember going to see them in Wigan and you could tell something was happening, a few weeks later I saw them on the new bands tent at Leeds in 2005 and you couldn't move there were that many people there which is unusual for that tent, that was due to the internet. I was also at the gig at the Ritz the night the first single went to number one, that was a great night. All the interest with Libertines was the same.

I always find it funny how bands that were great at a particular time get really big subsequently on much poorer material. Like Arcade Fire, released an amazing album in '04 and win Grammy Awards for the shite they release now.

The whole Arctic monkeys internet rise to fame was all record label managed. Got a grip of a new thing, let everyone 'discover' the next big thing and you've got a goldmine. Worked a treat. Nothing against the band, it was a genius marketing campaign

I thought Liam was good too, his voice is usually shite too. I was surprised that was the young band they chose, did nothing for, and there are bands making great music now. I felt a bit sorry for Lewis Hamilton, he seems like a nice guy and he genuinely seems like he tried but fornicate me he has zero personality.

freddydoesdallas wrote: The whole Arctic monkeys internet rise to fame was all record label managed. Got a grip of a new thing, let everyone 'discover' the next big thing and you've got a goldmine. Worked a treat. Nothing against the band, it was a genius marketing campaign

It all happened well before they got signed.

SNG wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote: The whole Arctic monkeys internet rise to fame was all record label managed. Got a grip of a new thing, let everyone 'discover' the next big thing and you've got a goldmine. Worked a treat. Nothing against the band, it was a genius marketing campaign

It all happened well before they got signed.

It didn't. They may have had a song or 2 on their like most bands but the big surge they had that grabbed the spotlight was label led

freddydoesdallas wrote:

SNG wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote: The whole Arctic monkeys internet rise to fame was all record label managed. Got a grip of a new thing, let everyone 'discover' the next big thing and you've got a goldmine. Worked a treat. Nothing against the band, it was a genius marketing campaign

It all happened well before they got signed.

It didn't. They may have had a song or 2 on their like most bands but the big surge they had that grabbed the spotlight was label led

I've still got the cd of demos I had a year before they signed to Domino, before they re-recorded everything and ruined the sound.

SNG wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote: The whole Arctic monkeys internet rise to fame was all record label managed. Got a grip of a new thing, let everyone 'discover' the next big thing and you've got a goldmine. Worked a treat. Nothing against the band, it was a genius marketing campaign

It all happened well before they got signed.

If we're talking cynical marketing campaigns, the 90s wasn't exactly free of that. Anyone care to remember Gay Dad, a ridiculously overhyped British band who got crazy amounts of attention from the music press simply because the lead singer used to be a music journalist? The worst thing was, they were absolute shite & only released 1 single I can actually remember.

SNG wrote:I thought Liam was good too, his voice is usually shite too. I was surprised that was the young band they chose, did nothing for, and there are bands making great music now. I felt a bit sorry for Lewis Hamilton, he seems like a nice guy and he genuinely seems like he tried but eff me he has zero personality.

Oh my god, Hamilton was painful wasn't he? You wouldn't wanna get stuck in the kitchen with him at a party would you.

Now this thread is gonna make me look like a dick pretending I know everyone in the world. But my missus worked with Liam's new bird and went to school with Lewis Hamilton, he was apparently signed up at a young age and his talent nurtured. I think you could tell he didn't have much of a childhood.

We were sat there saying who would have thought we'd have had all these connections to this lot back in '95.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SNG wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote: The whole Arctic monkeys internet rise to fame was all record label managed. Got a grip of a new thing, let everyone 'discover' the next big thing and you've got a goldmine. Worked a treat. Nothing against the band, it was a genius marketing campaign

It all happened well before they got signed.

If we're talking cynical marketing campaigns, the 90s wasn't exactly free of that. Anyone care to remember Gay Dad, a ridiculously overhyped British band who got crazy amounts of attention from the music press simply because the lead singer used to be a music journalist? The worst thing was, they were absolute shite & only released 1 single I can actually remember.

Two actually. To earth with love and a little joy. Not that I'm obsessed or owt