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asdfjkl wrote:

Tony1244 wrote: Wilder deserves criticism for his choice of opponents. My complaint is that it seems as though Wilder is the only guy getting criticized.

Shannon Briggs has been around a lot longer than Wilder, and Briggs just knocked out a guy who had retired from boxing years ago. Why don't you criticize Mayweather for not fighting GGG? Why don't you criticize GGG for not fighting Ward? Why is Kovalev not fighting Stevenson? It's as though every kid in the class is misbehaving and only one kid gets in trouble.

Wilder is the only guy that matters, because he's a heavyweight. I don't care about little dwarfs fighting, but you're probably right, they are bumfighters as well, next to that Mayweather is a big cheater.

Briggs is a Heavyweight! Kovalev and Stevenson are light heavyweights.

I've seen you write that you don't like the small fighters. I generally agree. I rarely watch a fight under welterweight anymore.

Wilder-Duhaupas is a joke but Mayweather-Berto and Briggs-Marrone were serious? I got ya.
shannon briggs does not exist anymore
in world class heavy weight boxing. what
he does has as much relevance as what
roy jones is doing.

floyd mayweather has a career of almost
two decades with dozens of world class
fights. he fought quite a number of top
opponents in recent years.

but you know what, i stop right here, you
are entitled to your opinion. won't argue
with you no more. you think wilder-duha
is equivalent to floyd-berto, so be it QUOTE: man


Mayweather-Berto: Every single solitary REAL boxing fan on this planet KNEW Mayweather-Berto would be a very boring unanimous shutout decision for Mayweather. Everyone knew that.
At least with Wilder-Duhaupas, there is some mystery. Wilder could get rocked again. Could be an early KO. Could be a late KO.

Of course Mayweather is far superior to Wilder on any P4P list. That was never even debated.

We agree on Briggs 100%.

If you want to debate - great. If you don't want to argue, there are plenty of people online to debate anything with.

I agree Briggs should fight more often and against better opponends.
At this moment he's dominating rank 250 ish guys.
That's pointless if you really want to fight the top of the world.
I really hope he will be fighting... Well at least top 100 guys.

asdfjkl wrote:I agree Briggs should fight more often and against better opponends.
At this moment he's dominating rank 250 ish guys.
That's pointless if you really want to fight the top of the world.
I really hope he will be fighting... Well at least top 100 guys.

he should stop fighting. a steroid six-pack
doesn't make a shot fighter fresh again. it
is not within him anymore. no real fan should
wish to see an old champ suffer in the ring.

Tony1244 wrote:At least with Wilder-Duhaupas, there is some mystery. Wilder could get rocked again. Could be an early KO. Could be a late KO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-0UUieGQfY
it would be even more mysterious to take
a random person from the street.

man wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:At least with Wilder-Duhaupas, there is some mystery. Wilder could get rocked again. Could be an early KO. Could be a late KO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-0UUieGQfY
it would be even more mysterious to take
a random person from the street.

I've watched some of that before. Hard to watch. These two are among the best European HWs. Not as good as Wlad and Joshua of course. I heard about all these great European HWs and how Europe was going to take over the HW division. Fury is fun to watch. But other than Joshua and the real champion, it's slim pickings.

man wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I agree Briggs should fight more often and against better opponends.
At this moment he's dominating rank 250 ish guys.
That's pointless if you really want to fight the top of the world.
I really hope he will be fighting... Well at least top 100 guys.

he should stop fighting. a steroid six-pack
doesn't make a shot fighter fresh again. it
is not within him anymore. no real fan should
wish to see an old champ suffer in the ring.

Have you ever heard of George Foreman?

After 10 years of inactivity he came back and became a world champion, AGAIN!

You should watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMABu5RwVcs



Edit: Also, Manuel Charr really ain't that special, even in Germany they call him a big loser.
He recently lost on KO against Mairis Briedis, who's usually a cruiserweight.
Charr isn't a totall bum, but he really ain't that good either any more.

George Foreman and Shannon Briggs are nothing alike. May as well have posted a doc about Stanley Ketchel.

asdfjkl wrote:...


Edit: Also, Manuel Charr really ain't that special, even in Germany they call him a big loser.
...

Yes, a very big loser. He was shot, in case you haven't heard.

punchoutsb wrote:...George Foreman and Shannon Briggs are nothing alike."

Nothing at all. And Briggs was never a solid champion. He fought Liakhovich for the WBO title in 2006, and Liak was ahead on all cards, and then he got himself knocked out in the last minute, deliberately I think, or else he's not all there mentally. Liak is a good looking guy but I'm not sure he's right in the head. He fought the highly touted Andy Ruiz last year and I thought the fight was a draw - but Liak looked so emotionless and disinterested. Right after Liak Briggs fought Sultan Ibragamov and was handily beaten on points.

man wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I agree Briggs should fight more often and against better opponends.
At this moment he's dominating rank 250 ish guys.
That's pointless if you really want to fight the top of the world.
I really hope he will be fighting... Well at least top 100 guys.

he should stop fighting. a steroid six-pack
doesn't make a shot fighter fresh again. it
is not within him anymore. no real fan should
wish to see an old champ suffer in the ring.

Briggs Vs. Danny Williams who wins?

Duhaupas is better than Molina so i have a small hope that he lands the straight right quick behind a blinding jab...





But Wilder is better than Duhaupas in pretty much every aspect... maybe just not experience and durability



Since they decided to stack the undercard with Heavyweights, would've been nice to see some competitive heavy fights on the undercard... Not the case... Nice to see Martin in action though

x2x wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:...


Edit: Also, Manuel Charr really ain't that special, even in Germany they call him a big loser.
...

Yes, a very big loser. He was shot, in case you haven't heard.

That has nothing to deal with his performance in the ring over the past few years, he performed bad in the ring, I don't care what happens outside of it.

wesshaw1985 wrote: Briggs Vs. Danny Williams who wins?

Briggs, I have no doubt about that actually, Danny is a rank 350 ish guy, Briggs is making fun of rank 250 ish guys.

Duhaupas got like a 30% chance, but Duhaupas probably will have to continue to work as a manufacturer of safes and mailboxes, he's not a real pro you know. Unlike in close near all Duhaupas his boxing matches before I do support him this time.
For me, Washington is still a bigger talent as Deontay Wilder is.

I'd give 80% of chances to Wilder, 20% to Duhaupas. Anyway, i hope the french man KO Wilder.

geronimo wrote:I'd give 80% of chances to Wilder, 20% to Duhaupas. Anyway, i hope the french man KO Wilder.

That's about right. I'd say 90% to 10%. I'm rooting for Wilder but if he gets KO'd it will be kind of amusing.

First French Heavyweight Champ!!

I just hope that Frenchy (ranked #1 in France and #34 in the world by BoxRec) isn't going to look for a nice clean spot on the floor and sit down on it. In other words I just hope he hasn't been paid by all the big money boxing and tv shysters backing Wilder to take a dive. Probably has tho, since the last stiff, Molina, came close to KO'ing their "world heavyweight champion".

x2x wrote:I just hope that Frenchy (ranked #1 in France and #34 in the world by BoxRec) isn't going to look for a nice clean spot on the floor and sit down on it. In other words I just hope he hasn't been paid by all the big money boxing and tv shysters backing Wilder to take a dive. Probably has tho, since the last stiff, Molina, came close to KO'ing their "world heavyweight champion".

Who's this "their" you're refering to?

As far as I know, "heavyweight champion of the world" refers to a champ who is everyone's titlist. Wilder belongs to the world, just not one country.

I don't think boxing's NGH (Next Great Heavyweight) needs to have some piece of French pastry travel across the globe and purposely lay down. I'm certain Wilder can accomplish that feat without any outside help or sour grapes fantasies of fixes.

SenorPipino wrote:

x2x wrote:I just hope that Frenchy (ranked #1 in France and #34 in the world by BoxRec) isn't going to look for a nice clean spot on the floor and sit down on it. In other words I just hope he hasn't been paid by all the big money boxing and tv shysters backing Wilder to take a dive. Probably has tho, since the last stiff, Molina, came close to KO'ing their "world heavyweight champion".

Who's this "their" you're refering to?

As far as I know, "heavyweight champion of the world" refers to a champ who is everyone's titlist. Wilder belongs to the world, just not one country.

I don't think boxing's NGH (Next Great Heavyweight) needs to have some piece of French pastry travel across the globe and purposely lay down. I'm certain Wilder can accomplish that feat without any outside help or sour grapes fantasies of fixes.

Wait, you said "boxing's next great heavyweight"? You seem confused. This is a thread about Deontay Wilder.

Datsue wrote:

SenorPipino wrote:

x2x wrote:I just hope that Frenchy (ranked #1 in France and #34 in the world by BoxRec) isn't going to look for a nice clean spot on the floor and sit down on it. In other words I just hope he hasn't been paid by all the big money boxing and tv shysters backing Wilder to take a dive. Probably has tho, since the last stiff, Molina, came close to KO'ing their "world heavyweight champion".

Who's this "their" you're refering to?

As far as I know, "heavyweight champion of the world" refers to a champ who is everyone's titlist. Wilder belongs to the world, just not one country.

I don't think boxing's NGH (Next Great Heavyweight) needs to have some piece of French pastry travel across the globe and purposely lay down. I'm certain Wilder can accomplish that feat without any outside help or sour grapes fantasies of fixes.

Wait, you said "boxing's next great heavyweight"? You seem confused. This is a thread about Deontay Wilder.

"Seem confused" ? Pipi is in a constant delirium.

SenorPipino wrote:As far as I know, "heavyweight champion of the world" refers to a champ who is everyone's titlist.

Yes, but this thread isn't about the heavyweight champion of the world...it's about Denotay Wilder

SenorPipino wrote:

x2x wrote:I just hope that Frenchy (ranked #1 in France and #34 in the world by BoxRec) isn't going to look for a nice clean spot on the floor and sit down on it. In other words I just hope he hasn't been paid by all the big money boxing and tv shysters backing Wilder to take a dive. Probably has tho, since the last stiff, Molina, came close to KO'ing their "world heavyweight champion".

Who's this "their" you're refering to?

As far as I know, "heavyweight champion of the world" refers to a champ who is everyone's titlist. Wilder belongs to the world, just not one country.

bla bla...

Where did I use the word "their", in quotes no less?

Yeah, Wilder "belongs to the world". He's like a world treasure.

asdfjkl wrote:

man wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I agree Briggs should fight more often and against better opponends.
At this moment he's dominating rank 250 ish guys.
That's pointless if you really want to fight the top of the world.
I really hope he will be fighting... Well at least top 100 guys.

he should stop fighting. a steroid six-pack
doesn't make a shot fighter fresh again. it
is not within him anymore. no real fan should
wish to see an old champ suffer in the ring.

Have you ever heard of George Foreman?

After 10 years of inactivity he came back and became a world champion, AGAIN!

You should watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMABu5RwVcs

two very different situations for me, but
you are entitled to see it differently. and
to answer your question: yes i heard of
george foreman.

wesshaw1985 wrote:

man wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I agree Briggs should fight more often and against better opponends.
At this moment he's dominating rank 250 ish guys.
That's pointless if you really want to fight the top of the world.
I really hope he will be fighting... Well at least top 100 guys.

he should stop fighting. a steroid six-pack
doesn't make a shot fighter fresh again. it
is not within him anymore. no real fan should
wish to see an old champ suffer in the ring.

Briggs Vs. Danny Williams who wins?

everyone loses if these two fight.

I remember threads from like two years ago. "Just wait", they said.

I'm still waiting, and I'll still be waiting after this.

Bobbyptsd wrote:I remember threads from like two years ago. "Just wait", they said.

I'm still waiting, and I'll still be waiting after this.

Sometime in 2016 Wilder will likely fight Povetkin or Wlad, and then the wait may be over.