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Tanzio wrote:Murdoch can now brag to his grandkids that he was too dangerous for SOGgy.

Ward's career is turning into a laughing stock, what on earth does he hope to gain trying to make these kind of fights. I've defended him in the past, but I can now see no logic for defending him. It's shameful.

Has anyone heard word the fight officially won't happen yet? Or just that Nevada are looking into it?

bogan whisperer wrote:Has anyone heard word the fight officially won't happen yet? Or just that Nevada are looking into it?

Several sources in Australia have now said it's officially off.

Props to the Nevada Commission for doing the right thing.

People get hurt in mismatches like this, a young boxer's career could have been ruined.

Freedom2013 wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:Has anyone heard word the fight officially won't happen yet? Or just that Nevada are looking into it?

Several sources in Australia have now said it's officially off.

Props to the Nevada Commission for doing the right thing.

People get hurt in mismatches like this, a young boxer's career could have been ruined.

As much as this might have been Rohan Murdock's lucky day as far as paydays go, the reality is it was a huge mismatch and it is probably better off not happening.

Ward vs. Alexander Brand is now in discussions.

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status ... 9650397184

http://boxrec.com/boxer/511591

Brand is an age 38 journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. He's had all but two of his fights in Columbia. He had a loss to Badou Jack three years ago.

He fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Freedom2013 wrote:Ward vs. Alexander Brand is now in discussions.

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status ... 9650397184

http://boxrec.com/boxer/511591

Brand is an age 38 journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. He's had all but two of his fights in Columbia. He had a loss to Badou Jack three years ago.

He fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Good grief. Ward is such a good fighter WTF is he doing? :??

Freedom2013 wrote:Ward vs. Alexander Brand is now in discussions.

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status ... 9650397184

http://boxrec.com/boxer/511591

Brand is an age 38 journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. He's had all but two of his fights in Columbia. He had a loss to Badou Jack three years ago.

He fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Ward sure seems intent on a no risk opponent.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Ward vs. Alexander Brand is now in discussions.

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status ... 9650397184

http://boxrec.com/boxer/511591

Brand is an age 38 journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. He's had all but two of his fights in Columbia. He had a loss to Badou Jack three years ago.

He fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Good grief. Ward is such a good fighter WTF is he doing? :??

He needs to see a shrink. He makes a mockery of himself and doesn't understand that.

And to think some fanboys on here were trying to pass him off as #1 or 2 P4P

Like a Boss wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Ward vs. Alexander Brand is now in discussions.

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status ... 9650397184

http://boxrec.com/boxer/511591

Brand is an age 38 journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. He's had all but two of his fights in Columbia. He had a loss to Badou Jack three years ago.

He fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Ward sure seems intent on a no risk opponent.

If he wants a tomato can to knock around, I'll fight him for a 5 figure purse at what ever weight he wants.
I'll even promise not to land a punch

Accept SOGgy into your hearts as The Lord and Savior of Boxing. Cease the 3G worship. Only through the grace of God bestowed upon boxing through SOGgy can you experience eternal tomato can beatings.

Like a Boss wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Ward vs. Alexander Brand is now in discussions.

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status ... 9650397184

http://boxrec.com/boxer/511591

Brand is an age 38 journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. He's had all but two of his fights in Columbia. He had a loss to Badou Jack three years ago.

He fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Ward sure seems intent on a no risk opponent.

Serious question: is he still injured or something? There had to be a reason for this excruciatingly safe match making. He would beat everybody in the top ten of SMW (although Degale might test him) and there are LHW top ten guys he could beat fairly easily. Why is he fighting these people? Apart from anything else it is dangerous for the people he fights because he is possibly the best fighter in the world. I know he's not a massive puncher but it is still head trauma. How does he still like himself? I was watching some highlights of him the other day and he is truly an amazing boxer. But I saw him looking so happy after beating up Paul Smith and you have to think, why are you SMILING?! It was like seeing a year 11 laughing after he'd beaten up a first year and stolen his dinner money. It's just weird.

It would be great if somebody doing an interview with him outright asked him: "why are your opponents SO bad?" (Like Dennis Pennis asking Steve Martin why he wasn't funny any more). It is a mystery. A sakio bika rematch would suck less. The ghost of b hop would suck less. George 'wobbly legs' Groves coming off his loss would suck less. Callum smith. Sh*t, Nathan Cleverly! Nathan is at least brave and was a world champ and is not a bad fighter and is a proper LHW. Paul Smith was small for a SMW! He should have fought at MW. He dragged him up to LHW! That was terrible, but at least people had heard of him. I have no idea who these two guys are. Where do they find them?

clopixolacuphase wrote: . He would beat everybody in the top ten of SMW (although Degale might test him)

I don't think he would.
Unless Ward is on the slide, Kovalev is about the only name I'd give a real shot against Ward, Stevenson included. I think he's far too good for Degale

That's what makes the weak choice of opponents so frustrating.
The guy is elite level and even if this is just a warm up for Kovalev, surely he'd be better testing himself against someone ranked 5-10 in the SMW or LHW division.

Someone like Braemer would be an ideal warm up. Surely you don't want to go in against the most feared man in a new weight class having 2 warm up bouts against club fighters

I don't understand why they can't find someone that we have at least heard of. It doesn't have to be anyone good but it seems like they are going for the most obscure dudes they can come up with.

I heard its going to be Ward vs Smith II.

davie wrote:

clopixolacuphase wrote: . He would beat everybody in the top ten of SMW (although Degale might test him)

I don't think he would.
Unless Ward is on the slide, Kovalev is about the only name I'd give a real shot against Ward, Stevenson included. I think he's far too good for Degale

That's what makes the weak choice of opponents so frustrating.
The guy is elite level and even if this is just a warm up for Kovalev, surely he'd be better testing himself against someone ranked 5-10 in the SMW or LHW division.

Someone like Braemer would be an ideal warm up. Surely you don't want to go in against the most feared man in a new weight class having 2 warm up bouts against club fighters

Beterbiev would kill Ward.

Braehmer is in fact an ideal opponent. Beside a decent warmup, Ward would get the belt putting him into a better position for negotiations with top LHWs. It looks like he doesn't want to be anywhere near top LHWs though.

Freedom2013 wrote:Ward vs. Alexander Brand is now in discussions.

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status ... 9650397184

http://boxrec.com/boxer/511591

Brand is an age 38 journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. He's had all but two of his fights in Columbia. He had a loss to Badou Jack three years ago.

He fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Where do Team Ward find these guys from?

Is he trawling pubs in the Western United States & asking random blokes if they want a fight or something?

Maybe he's running a benefit scheme for boxing's journeymen to gee them up?

I can't for the life of think why Ward & his cronies would consider fighting opponents of this calibre at this stage in his career.

ikorolev wrote:

davie wrote:

clopixolacuphase wrote: . He would beat everybody in the top ten of SMW (although Degale might test him)

I don't think he would.
Unless Ward is on the slide, Kovalev is about the only name I'd give a real shot against Ward, Stevenson included. I think he's far too good for Degale

That's what makes the weak choice of opponents so frustrating.
The guy is elite level and even if this is just a warm up for Kovalev, surely he'd be better testing himself against someone ranked 5-10 in the SMW or LHW division.

Someone like Braemer would be an ideal warm up. Surely you don't want to go in against the most feared man in a new weight class having 2 warm up bouts against club fighters

Beterbiev would kill Ward.

Braehmer is in fact an ideal opponent. Beside a decent warmup, Ward would get the belt putting him into a better position for negotiations with top LHWs. It looks like he doesn't want to be anywhere near top LHWs though.

I never thought of him.

For me, he's a poor mans Kovalev and Kovalev only narrowly beats Ward IMO.
Even if Beterbiev does eventually prove to be that good, right now he's got a long way to go prove he's an elite level fighter.

davie wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

davie wrote: I don't think he would.
Unless Ward is on the slide, Kovalev is about the only name I'd give a real shot against Ward, Stevenson included. I think he's far too good for Degale

That's what makes the weak choice of opponents so frustrating.
The guy is elite level and even if this is just a warm up for Kovalev, surely he'd be better testing himself against someone ranked 5-10 in the SMW or LHW division.

Someone like Braemer would be an ideal warm up. Surely you don't want to go in against the most feared man in a new weight class having 2 warm up bouts against club fighters

Beterbiev would kill Ward.

Braehmer is in fact an ideal opponent. Beside a decent warmup, Ward would get the belt putting him into a better position for negotiations with top LHWs. It looks like he doesn't want to be anywhere near top LHWs though.

I never thought of him.

For me, he's a poor mans Kovalev and Kovalev only narrowly beats Ward IMO.
Even if Beterbiev does eventually prove to be that good, right now he's got a long way to go prove he's an elite level fighter.

If Beterbiev could get Ward, it would take just one fight to prove that he is elite. Not gonna happen though because of Haymon and the shrinking size of Ward's ballz.

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Ward vs. Alexander Brand is now in discussions.

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status ... 9650397184

http://boxrec.com/boxer/511591

Brand is an age 38 journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. He's had all but two of his fights in Columbia. He had a loss to Badou Jack three years ago.

He fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Ward sure seems intent on a no risk opponent.

Serious question: is he still injured or something? There had to be a reason for this excruciatingly safe match making.

That thought crossed my mind as well. But I have seen no evidence of it. Strange?

Relax guys, he just wants one more easy fight before his next one which will be a good one! His next fight...

My guess is they're trying to preserve a Kovalev v Ward fight, but it's like wrapping Andre Ward in cotton wool and bubble wrap.
FFS this is boxing at the highest level.

latest news. ward wants to fight his heavy bag, but
he demands it moves up in weight, negotiations
pending.

Evander wrote:My guess is they're trying to preserve a Kovalev v Ward fight, but it's like wrapping Andre Ward in cotton wool and bubble wrap.
FFS this is boxing at the highest level.

That is the most logical answer.

Lucas Brown has been playing similarly careful to what Ward is in the lead-up to his title fight against Chagaev.