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Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 07:00
by forcefraser
Anyone who had this as a Cotto win has to take a serious look at themselves. How can you possibly score that fight to Cotto?
Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 07:23
by kidbazooka1
forcefraser wrote:Anyone who had this as a Cotto win has to take a serious look at themselves. How can you possibly score that fight to Cotto?
Thank you.
Its one thing to hate a guy but for that hate to just blind you completley or have such delusional influence over what you think you see is crazy.
Fact is Canelo beat Cotto very clearly.
Nuff said .
Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 09:27
by Badhusker
Canelo won, as I expected. The scores really don't matter to me as long as the right guy wins. It wasn't as close as Canelo wins over Lara or Trout, but then again both of them are better than Cotto.
A fight I would like to see next is Canelo vs Andrade. We all know he won't fight GGG just yet, and GGG isn't going to 155.
Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 09:31
by hhaehre
I wanted Cotto to win but he really didn't, wasn't that close either. I had it 8-4 Canelo
Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 09:50
by Boxerbeetle
Canelo definitely won the fight. Was closer than the scorecards suggested, but no doubt that the decision was correct.
Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 09:55
by Ricky_
forcefraser wrote:Anyone who had this as a Cotto win has to take a serious look at themselves. How can you possibly score that fight to Cotto?
He won the first half of fight handily. I agree though, to find a winning scorecard for Cotto you'd need to give him some 10pts in rounds 8,9,10,11 where he very clearly got on his bike and outpunched.
I had Cotto 5-2 through 7 & thought he put enough effort into 12 giving him that round for 114-114. 115-113 Canelo i'm fine with. 119-109 is corrupt though. No doubt about it, a stinking card.
Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 09:58
by Boxerbeetle
Ricky_ wrote:forcefraser wrote:Anyone who had this as a Cotto win has to take a serious look at themselves. How can you possibly score that fight to Cotto?
He won the first half of fight handily. I agree though, to find a winning scorecard for Cotto you'd need to give him some 10pts in rounds 8,9,10,11 where he very clearly got on his bike and outpunched.
I had Cotto 5-2 through 7 & thought he put enough effort into 12 giving him that round for 114-114. 115-113 Canelo i'm fine with. 119-109 is corrupt though. No doubt about it, a stinking card.
I had Canelo 3-1 up after 4, so there is clearly a lot of room for interpretation. 119-109 was shocking card though.
Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 10:04
by PredatorHayds
115-113 Canelo for me.
I thought before hand that it would be one sided for Canelo. I thought Cotto was outstanding and even in defeat he gave a performance that belongs with some of his best.
His movement, general boxing ability and jab were things I thought he didn't possess at his age.
I thought the gameplan by Freddie and the wild card of making Canelo fight going backwards was spot on.
Canelo was clever and didn't panic. He made his scoring shots hurtful and didn't waste energy chasing Cotto around. He seems to be maturing each fight.
GGG might come a bit soon. It would be great to see GGG and Canelo concentrate on the winners of Quillin-Jacobs and Lee-Saunders then once they have all the belts put it all on the line.
Re: Cotto vs Canelo Broadcast •Round by Round•
Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 10:08
by Ricky_
Boxerbeetle wrote:Ricky_ wrote:forcefraser wrote:Anyone who had this as a Cotto win has to take a serious look at themselves. How can you possibly score that fight to Cotto?
He won the first half of fight handily. I agree though, to find a winning scorecard for Cotto you'd need to give him some 10pts in rounds 8,9,10,11 where he very clearly got on his bike and outpunched.
I had Cotto 5-2 through 7 & thought he put enough effort into 12 giving him that round for 114-114. 115-113 Canelo i'm fine with. 119-109 is corrupt though. No doubt about it, a stinking card.
I had Canelo 3-1 up after 4, so there is clearly a lot of room for interpretation. 119-109 was shocking card though.
True. Cotto won the first. The next few rounds were close. I had it 2-2 through 4 then gave Cotto 5, 6 & 7 where his combo punching i felt was more impressive than Canelo's low output bombs.
The turning point for me was r8.... Cotto seemed to go for it maybe thinking his success in previous rounds had softened Canelo up. Round 8 produced the best toe-to-toe action but Canelo got the better of the bombs-away in round 8 and took control of the fight from there.
My final thoughts on the fight is that size was the biggest factor. Cotto was a more natural welterweight and Canelo was just outwith his size range, in the sense that Cottos punches were having less of an effect on the bigger man. As a result he got overpowered in the end by clearly a less skilled boxer.
Canelo has clearly been a full blown midleweight for about 4 years. He acts like he'll fight anyone but in truth only a handful of oppobents have been his same size (kirkland, trout).