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zorndeslammes wrote:Rodriguez weighed in the day prior at 170. That has nothing to do with weights on fight night regardless of how hard you want to make it so.

Whether it was the day before or the night of, the fact of the matter is that if he came into the ring at 170 then he was fighting as a LHW or if he was simply 169 then that is LHW territory.

I'm not sure what part of this you're not understanding.

jujigatame wrote:Your persecution complex is the only complex evident on this thread.

Your lack of maturity is the only complex evident in every thread you post in.

Tee hee!!

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

zorndeslammes wrote:Rodriguez weighed in the day prior at 170. That has nothing to do with weights on fight night regardless of how hard you want to make it so.

Whether it was the day before or the night of, the fact of the matter is that if he came into the ring at 170 then he was fighting as a LHW or if he was simply 169 then that is LHW territory.

I'm not sure what part of this you're not understanding.

So Canelo is also a LHW too these days?

Larrylefthook wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

zorndeslammes wrote:Rodriguez weighed in the day prior at 170. That has nothing to do with weights on fight night regardless of how hard you want to make it so.

Whether it was the day before or the night of, the fact of the matter is that if he came into the ring at 170 then he was fighting as a LHW or if he was simply 169 then that is LHW territory.

I'm not sure what part of this you're not understanding.

So Canelo is also a LHW too these days?

Maybe even a cruiser if he comes at 176

ikorolev wrote:

Larrylefthook wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Whether it was the day before or the night of, the fact of the matter is that if he came into the ring at 170 then he was fighting as a LHW or if he was simply 169 then that is LHW territory.

I'm not sure what part of this you're not understanding.

So Canelo is also a LHW too these days?

Maybe even a cruiser if he comes at 176

Haha, yeh I think he should be a man and fight Kovalev!!

Larrylefthook wrote:So Canelo is also a LHW too these days?

By the time FN arrives if he's at 170 or above then he is competing within the LHW territory.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

zorndeslammes wrote:Rodriguez weighed in the day prior at 170. That has nothing to do with weights on fight night regardless of how hard you want to make it so.

Whether it was the day before or the night of, the fact of the matter is that if he came into the ring at 170 then he was fighting as a LHW or if he was simply 169 then that is LHW territory.

I'm not sure what part of this you're not understanding.

The rules of boxing as presently exist mean that fighters weigh in for bouts day of. You know this and so do I. Argue it however you want: it isn't 1961.

zorndeslammes wrote:The rules of boxing as presently exist mean that fighters weigh in for bouts day of. You know this and so do I. Argue it however you want: it isn't 1961.

Who's talking about rules?? This is common sense, if a fighter is a MW and the limit is 160 and he comes in at 161 he is by definition fighting as a SMW and not a MW.

Rules have nothing to do with the facts.

ikorolev wrote:

jujigatame wrote:He's one of the top P4P fighters in the sport, and he just had a "warm-up" fight against a British cab driver 6 months ago.

IBF (or any ABC) rankings are utterly meaningless.

You are a silly, silly man.

That is all.

Come on. Ward finally faces an opponent of his own size, having skills and power. It is a progress. Barrera may even be better than overrated Froch and Kessler. The fight will show.

The only way Ward loses to Barrera is if he's declined in a major way over the past 3 years. A Barrera win doesn't make him better than long term champions like Froch or Kessler.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

zorndeslammes wrote:The rules of boxing as presently exist mean that fighters weigh in for bouts day of. You know this and so do I. Argue it however you want: it isn't 1961.

Who's talking about rules?? This is common sense, if a fighter is a MW and the limit is 160 and he comes in at 161 he is by definition fighting as a SMW and not a MW.

Rules have nothing to do with the facts.

Right. And the weigh in is the day prior. That's when those weights count towards the titles people fight for in the sport. So I'm right, and you're wrong. Thanks for playing.

zorndeslammes wrote:Right. And the weigh in is the day prior. That's when those weights count towards the titles people fight for in the sport. So I'm right, and you're wrong. Thanks for playing.

I never said anything about you being wrong about that, you sound like a 4th Grader with that kind of talk. All I spotlighted is the fact that if a fighter comes into the ring on FN 1lb or more over the weight limit regardless if they make the required limit the day before they are still in essence fighting in another weight class.

I'm not sure what is your problem with admitting that, I have no problem with admitting you are right about the weigh in weight. Wow

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Larrylefthook wrote:So Canelo is also a LHW too these days?

By the time FN arrives if he's at 170 or above then he is competing within the LHW territory.

So you don't consider him the middleweight champion? He didn't weigh under 160 against Cotto.

Larrylefthook wrote:So you don't consider him the middleweight champion? He didn't weigh under 160 against Cotto.

Wow, where did I say that?? Please remind me.

All I'm stating is a fact and you guys are having problem with reading comprehension. Honestly I'm not sure what's wrong with you all.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Larrylefthook wrote:So you don't consider him the middleweight champion? He didn't weigh under 160 against Cotto.

Wow, where did I say that?? Please remind me.

All I'm stating is a fact and you guys are having problem with reading comprehension. Honestly I'm not sure what's wrong with you all.

So why are you brining in fight night weights? No boxer weighs in the same as they do from the scales.

Larrylefthook wrote:So why are you brining in fight night weights? No boxer weighs in the same as they do from the scales.

Because of this:

zorndeslammes wrote:
You know what's really funny? Three fights ago, he fought the "light heavyweight champion". Two fights ago, he fought a guy that weighed in at 170. His last fight? He fought at a catch of 172, IIRC. He's basically been fighting light heavyweights in reality for something like 3 years now.

We could arguably say the same thing about GGG seeing that he comes in on most FNs at 170 or slightly above. Do you see how this works?

Stop being a hypocrite about this, no need to use all this bull. If you don't like AW then just say so.

And because I mentioned that and certain idiots like Ikey have a problem with it because he's a GGG Worshipper.

All i did was a simple comparison and these guys are whining about it and saying stupid stuff like "your immature". This is a boxing forum and I'm entitled to my opinion, if you don't like it then just say you don't agree with it or totally ignore it.

There's no need to be a d*ck and be totally insulting simply because someone says something about your hero that you do not like.

Error, please delete.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Larrylefthook wrote:So why are you brining in fight night weights? No boxer weighs in the same as they do from the scales.

Because of this:

zorndeslammes wrote:
You know what's really funny? Three fights ago, he fought the "light heavyweight champion". Two fights ago, he fought a guy that weighed in at 170. His last fight? He fought at a catch of 172, IIRC. He's basically been fighting light heavyweights in reality for something like 3 years now.

Idiot, 170 and 172 mentioned by zorndeslammes are previous day weights, not fight night weights.

ikorolev wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Larrylefthook wrote:So why are you brining in fight night weights? No boxer weighs in the same as they do from the scales.

Because of this:

zorndeslammes wrote:
You know what's really funny? Three fights ago, he fought the "light heavyweight champion". Two fights ago, he fought a guy that weighed in at 170. His last fight? He fought at a catch of 172, IIRC. He's basically been fighting light heavyweights in reality for something like 3 years now.

Idiot, 170 and 172 mentioned by zorndeslammes are previous day weights, not fight night weights.

Dummy I knew that already, again I was just using that as an example.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Because of this:

Idiot, 170 and 172 mentioned by zorndeslammes are previous day weights, not fight night weights.

Dummy I knew that already, again I was just using that as an example.

You are the dummy. You were asked why you started talking about fight night weights, and you answered that it was because zorndeslammes said that, while in fact those are apples and oranges.

Freedom2013 wrote:After six weeks, Ward-Barrera still not done

This guy can't make a deal with anybody for crying out loud

The Revival wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:After six weeks, Ward-Barrera still not done

This guy can't make a deal with anybody for crying out loud

Andre Ward is a pampered prima donna who has an arrogant feeling of superiority and a sense of entitlement. He has no sense of good sportsmanship and selfishly demands all the advantages.

He's definitely no Christian.

"He who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted." Jesus Christ, the REAL Son of God.

You guys are losing sight of the fact that the mere rumor of a semi-decent fight was supposed to absolve ward of all criticism.

Freedom2013 wrote:

The Revival wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:After six weeks, Ward-Barrera still not done

This guy can't make a deal with anybody for crying out loud

Andre Ward is a pampered prima donna who has an arrogant feeling of superiority and a sense of entitlement. He has no sense of good sportsmanship and selfishly demands all the advantages.

He's definitely no Christian.

"He who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted." Jesus Christ, the REAL Son of God.

Don't know what the Christianity thing has to do with anything, but he's definitely a Prima Donna.