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danamba7 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:Both are examples of manufactured "personalities"

Floyd is a wet fish and although McGregor has more about him as a person, he still resorts to posing with watches, cars, sporting a huge beard and lots of tats to make him seem more "interesting" and adorable to the shallow, materialistic masses.

Neither are genuine 'characters' from what I have seen.

Good luck to them both though. I tip my hat to what they have achieved, definitely.

I imagine they both get together and laugh at all the money parting suckers who lap up these silly little "arguments" too! Means more interest in them which means more dollars in their pocket!

I think McGregor is a more genuine personality , in that the way he acts is closer to what he is, I think he's probably a lot more intelligent than Mayweather too, certainly wittier, his remarks seem more off the cuff, and are funnier.

This. Conor's smarter, funnier and more entertaining. Nothing to do with race. It seemed like Floyd just made noise for the sake of making noise at times. I can't remember ever being particularly entertained or amused at anything he's said.

Conor's views on movement, visualization, positive thinking etc also set him apart from Floyd. He has that deep thinking, thoughtful side to him to balance out his arrogance.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:I much,much prefer boxing to MMA, but McGregor has more character and fighting heart in his foreskin than Mayweather has ever had....

I do prefer a great boxing match, the problem is, there seem to be scant few of them these days. I'm struggling to recall the last high profile, top level fight that I got to see, that produced real fireworks.

GGG v Lemiuex wasn't bad, but it was a tad one sided to be compelling, still, at least GGG went out there to smash him up.
Canelo v Cotto was ok, but never quite caught fire, and was again relatively one sided.
Most of Froch's fights were great value, wish there were more like him in Boxing, prepared to go balls to the wall in world title fights.

There may be many other world title fights which are compelling, but the trouble is, it's very hard to get to see most of them, unless you want to watch after the event on youtube, which to be frank, I can't be arsed doing, as once I know the result, it's just not very interesting any more.

That's another huge problem boxing has, multiple networks and promoters, so you just can't get all the best content in one place, - how I wish you could.

Even if I had Sky, BT Sports, allegedly (I cancelled sky ages ago because it's a rip off) and shelled out for Every single PPV - which would cost me a small fortune a year, I still couldn't get to see all of the best fights, due to the labyrinthine business relationships boxing has.

expe wrote:

danamba7 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I think McGregor is a more genuine personality , in that the way he acts is closer to what he is, I think he's probably a lot more intelligent than Mayweather too, certainly wittier, his remarks seem more off the cuff, and are funnier.

This. Conor's smarter, funnier and more entertaining. Nothing to do with race. It seemed like Floyd just made noise for the sake of making noise at times. I can't remember ever being particularly entertained or amused at anything he's said.

Conor's views on movement, visualization, positive thinking etc also set him apart from Floyd. He has that deep thinking, thoughtful side to him to balance out his arrogance.

He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

reggaereggae wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:I much,much prefer boxing to MMA, but McGregor has more character and fighting heart in his foreskin than Mayweather has ever had....

I do prefer a great boxing match, the problem is, there seem to be scant few of them these days. I'm struggling to recall the last high profile, top level fight that I got to see, that produced real fireworks.

GGG v Lemiuex wasn't bad, but it was a tad one sided to be compelling, still, at least GGG went out there to smash him up.
Canelo v Cotto was ok, but never quite caught fire, and was again relatively one sided.
Most of Froch's fights were great value, wish there were more like him in Boxing, prepared to go balls to the wall in world title fights.

There may be many other world title fights which are compelling, but the trouble is, it's very hard to get to see most of them, unless you want to watch after the event on youtube, which to be frank, I can't be arsed doing, as once I know the result, it's just not very interesting any more.

That's another huge problem boxing has, multiple networks and promoters, so you just can't get all the best content in one place, - how I wish you could.

Even if I had Sky, BT Sports, allegedly (I cancelled sky ages ago because it's a rip off) and shelled out for Every single PPV - which would cost me a small fortune a year, I still couldn't get to see all of the best fights, due to the labyrinthine business relationships boxing has.

Yes, great points. But things will hopefully change with the evolution of media and demand will lead to better VFM for the punter and a greater ease of viewing.

Because the costumer is more sophisticated and knowledgable and the market is more competitive.

expe wrote:

danamba7 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I think McGregor is a more genuine personality , in that the way he acts is closer to what he is, I think he's probably a lot more intelligent than Mayweather too, certainly wittier, his remarks seem more off the cuff, and are funnier.

This. Conor's smarter, funnier and more entertaining. Nothing to do with race. It seemed like Floyd just made noise for the sake of making noise at times. I can't remember ever being particularly entertained or amused at anything he's said.

Conor's views on movement, visualization, positive thinking etc also set him apart from Floyd. He has that deep thinking, thoughtful side to him to balance out his arrogance.

He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Thanks....just watched it all. Very sharp guy. Understands business and spot on about the problem with boxing.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

danamba7 wrote:

expe wrote:

danamba7 wrote:
This. Conor's smarter, funnier and more entertaining. Nothing to do with race. It seemed like Floyd just made noise for the sake of making noise at times. I can't remember ever being particularly entertained or amused at anything he's said.

Conor's views on movement, visualization, positive thinking etc also set him apart from Floyd. He has that deep thinking, thoughtful side to him to balance out his arrogance.

He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

No idea what he's talking about? Wow, just wow.

Impractical Poster wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Thanks....just watched it all. Very sharp guy. Understands business and spot on about the problem with boxing.

I love when he talked about how everyone one is the world is fascinated by the toughest guys in the world. And if Mike Tyson walked through that door right then everyone would sh!t their pants....lol

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

You can't see the difference between the two?

One is all blouse and no skirt, the other backs up the boasts with exciting fights.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

You can't see the difference between the two?

One is all blouse and no skirt, the other backs up the boasts with exciting fights.

Yeah sure, Floyd fights were all boring, Corrales boring, Gatti boring, Hatton boring, Corley boring, Manfredy boring, Judah boring, Ndou boring.

You can continue if you'd like but I guess you really proved your point, right??

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Oh I almost forgot to add that Floyd was fighting himself in all those fights so it's totally his fault that he's so good that he made the other fighter totally incapable of doing anything to mount any type of attack to make the fights exciting.

The thinking/logic and the things so called boxing fans these days say is totally exposed as hate by my comment.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

You can't see the difference between the two?

One is all blouse and no skirt, the other backs up the boasts with exciting fights.

Yeah sure, Floyd fights were all boring, Corrales boring, Gatti boring, Hatton boring, Corley boring, Manfredy boring, Judah boring, Ndou boring.

You can continue if you'd like but I guess you really proved your point, right??

expe wrote:

danamba7 wrote:

expe wrote: He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

No idea what he's talking about? Wow, just wow.

Well, he doesn't. Seems to just ramble on aimlessly without ever getting to the point or really saying anything at all, all the hallmarks of someone trying to blag that they're intelligent, but in reality they don't really know what they're on about.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Those fights are all a long time ago. The Hatton fight had a good conclusion, but let's not forget that prior to that end, Mayweather was fouling and spoiling like crazy. Great shot to end it though. Thought his fight with DLH had it's moments, but the latter part of his career has stunk in the main.

Impractical Poster wrote:Hey Brut, go to the 30 minute mark and listen to what is being said and tell me it isn't true...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94w2lwU-To0

danamba7 wrote:

expe wrote:

danamba7 wrote:
No idea what he's talking about? Wow, just wow.

Well, he doesn't. Seems to just ramble on aimlessly without ever getting to the point or really saying anything at all, all the hallmarks of someone trying to blag that they're intelligent, but in reality they don't really know what they're on about.

Really surprised you feel that way, usually agree with a lot you post.

He may not be academic but he's definitely not "thick as fook" and he definitely knows what he's talking about when it comes to MMA the sport and MMA the business. He has talked, fought and negotiated his way to the top in less than 3 years. I'm not Irish and I'm not stupid but I find his rise incredibly inspiring. Watch this short clip if you've got 3 minutes spare. Don't tell me this is a man who doesn't know what he's on about!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUjPC49HhgU

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Those fights are all a long time ago. The Hatton fight had a good conclusion, but let's not forget that prior to that end, Mayweather was fouling and spoiling like crazy. Great shot to end it though. Thought his fight with DLH had it's moments, but the latter part of his career has stunk in the main.

Like I said your conclusion that his fights in his latter career stunk indicates that you are placing the sole blame of that on Floyd (as though he was the only one in the ring)> I guess it's hard to understand for yourself when you speak out of emotion rather than out of logic to conclude that he wasn't the only person in the ring.

Oh well, there's no point in this debate when it's obvious that you ignored the fact that McGregor is early into his career (which is why I used those early fights of Floyd as a comparison) and that we have yet to see when he reaches the age of 38 if he'll be as exciting a fighter he is right now.

But yeah, y'all go ahead and keep comparing the youngish career of Conor to a 38 year old Floyd.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Some fair points there to be sure (no pun intended) however, I would argue that Mayweather, when entirely dominating his opponents, always opted for the safest route possible, certainly the latter part of his career, choosing to be as risk averse possible, rather than entertain the fans.

Yes, I understand it's his life on the line, yes, I know he has bad hands, but whatever the reason, the end result were one-sided but incredibly dull fights where even the winner landed only a handful of shots each round.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Those fights are all a long time ago. The Hatton fight had a good conclusion, but let's not forget that prior to that end, Mayweather was fouling and spoiling like crazy. Great shot to end it though. Thought his fight with DLH had it's moments, but the latter part of his career has stunk in the main.

Like I said your conclusion that his fights in his latter career stunk indicates that you are placing the sole blame of that on Floyd (as though he was the only one in the ring)> I guess it's hard to understand for yourself when you speak out of emotion rather than out of logic to conclude that he wasn't the only person in the ring.

Oh well, there's no point in this debate when it's obvious that you ignored the fact that McGregor is early into his career (which is why I used those early fights of Floyd as a comparison) and that we have yet to see when he reaches the age of 38 if he'll be as exciting a fighter he is right now.

But yeah, y'all go ahead and keep comparing the youngish career of Conor to a 38 year old Floyd.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Hey Brut, go to the 30 minute mark and listen to what is being said and tell me it isn't true...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94w2lwU-To0

Sounds like he described Packy in that last fight with Floyd to a "T".