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Horse wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Feck it, what bout Danny Williams too then? Maybe wheel out Julius Francis?

No, they lack credibility.

Although they'd both be better than the majority of Hughie's opponents so far.

I know I was being deliberately facetious but what credit would Hughie get for beating up a shot to pieces Sprott or a retired Audley Harrison? Most bookies wouldn't even give you odds on they fights ffs!

Horse wrote:No, they lack credibility

But a retired, three years inactive, 44 year old with brain damage IS credible?

Got another 'emoticon' for you Horse

Stuarty30 wrote:I know I was being deliberately facetious but what credit would Hughie get for beating up a shot to pieces Sprott or a retired Audley Harrison? Most bookies wouldn't even give you odds on they fights ffs!

Hughie's record is absolutely bloody terrible. Either fighter would be a huge boost to his record.

You can talk Sprott and Harrison down if you want, but what else does this Hughie Fury have on his record apart from Rudenko?

I'm sick of Hughie getting all of this hype, because Peter Fury keeps talking rubbish about all of these world class fighters that he's trying to get.

He's done next to bugger all. Beating has-been, washed-up domestic fighters would be a step up for him.

Andy Paints Brian wrote:But a retired, three years inactive, 44 year old with brain damage IS credible?

Got another 'emoticon' for you Horse

Far more credible than Larry Olubamiwo.

Horse wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:I know I was being deliberately facetious but what credit would Hughie get for beating up a shot to pieces Sprott or a retired Audley Harrison? Most bookies wouldn't even give you odds on they fights ffs!

Hughie's record is absolutely bloody terrible. Either fighter would be a huge boost to his record.

You can talk Sprott and Harrison down if you want, but what else does this Hughie Fury have on his record apart from Rudenko?

I'm sick of Hughie getting all of this hype, because Peter Fury keeps talking rubbish about all of these world class fighters that he's trying to get.

He's done next to bugger all. Beating has-been, washed-up domestic fighters would be a step up for him.

His record is lack Rudenko aside I agree but the likes of Sprott or Harrison will not add any credibility to it. I've never been overly impressed with him tbh. He's decent and could be better but it'll take a better calibre of fighter than the two you mentioned to find that out.

Stuarty30 wrote:His record is lack Rudenko aside I agree but the likes of Sprott or Harrison will not add any credibility to it. I've never been overly impressed with him tbh. He's decent and could be better but it'll take a better calibre of fighter than the two you mentioned to find that out.

Sprott and Harrison are both decent names for a novice to fight.

I doubt that he will be fighting better opponents instead.

Horse wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:His record is lack Rudenko aside I agree but the likes of Sprott or Harrison will not add any credibility to it. I've never been overly impressed with him tbh. He's decent and could be better but it'll take a better calibre of fighter than the two you mentioned to find that out.

Sprott and Harrison are both decent names for a novice to fight.

I doubt that he will be fighting better opponents instead.

5 years ago perhaps

Stuarty30 wrote:5 years ago perhaps

Who on his record is better than either?

Horse wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:5 years ago perhaps

Who on his record is better than either?

Rudenko possibly. Decent win for a novice. His record is guff apart from him. Sprott is cannon fodder. No point discussing Harrison.

Stuarty30 wrote:Rudenko possibly. Decent win for a novice. His record is guff apart from him. Sprott is cannon fodder. No point discussing Harrison.

I'm not saying that either opponent is great, but considering Hughie's record and his lack of power, both men would be worth something.

I'd rather he just fought McDermott and pressed on.

Horse wrote:Both men would be worth something

Nonsense.

Andy Paints Brian wrote:Nonsense.

Just because decent punchers blow them away it doesn't mean that Hughie will have an easy time with them.

Skelton, Sprott, Sexton et al are all seriously overrated on this forum (in my opinion).

Hughie Fury needs to just keep winning, and fighting people like Rudenko and Arias is the best way to go for the next 12 months, build up the experience, and climb the rankings. It has already been established that people don't want to fight him so he needs that ranking for people to 'want',

jaymitch81 wrote:Tom Dallas and Gary Cornish are just as bad as the unranked eastern europeans you are on about.

That's debatable, considering that both men have beaten unranked eastern Europeans to get them were they are today. Look at their records if you don't believe me.

What it badly needed in the British Heavyweight scene is for the moderately decent fighters (like Dallas, Cornish & Sexton) to start fighting each other, and let's see just who exactly deserves the boost upward. I'd probably throw Hughie Fury & Dillian White in there was well and maybe 3 others... And try to make some sort of 8 man knockout tournament for it, and the winner gets a lucrative stadium fight against David Haye or Anthony Joshua.

Until these British-level fighters meet each other, we'll never truly know whose the best of them (not including AJ or The Hayemaker)

Crease wrote:

jaymitch81 wrote:Tom Dallas and Gary Cornish are just as bad as the unranked eastern europeans you are on about.

That's debatable, considering that both men have beaten unranked eastern Europeans to get them were they are today. Look at their records if you don't believe me.

What it badly needed in the British Heavyweight scene is for the moderately decent fighters (like Dallas, Cornish & Sexton) to start fighting each other, and let's see just who exactly deserves the boost upward. I'd probably throw Hughie Fury & Dillian White in there was well and maybe 3 others... And try to make some sort of 8 man knockout tournament for it, and the winner gets a lucrative stadium fight against David Haye or Anthony Joshua.

Until these British-level fighters meet each other, we'll never truly know whose the best of them (not including AJ or The Hayemaker)

Gary Cornish has disappeared off the face of the Earth since the Joshua fight. Be nice to see him in the ring any time soon. Can't still be recovering from the knock out surely...

Rob3_142 wrote:

Crease wrote:

jaymitch81 wrote:Tom Dallas and Gary Cornish are just as bad as the unranked eastern europeans you are on about.

That's debatable, considering that both men have beaten unranked eastern Europeans to get them were they are today. Look at their records if you don't believe me.

What it badly needed in the British Heavyweight scene is for the moderately decent fighters (like Dallas, Cornish & Sexton) to start fighting each other, and let's see just who exactly deserves the boost upward. I'd probably throw Hughie Fury & Dillian White in there was well and maybe 3 others... And try to make some sort of 8 man knockout tournament for it, and the winner gets a lucrative stadium fight against David Haye or Anthony Joshua.

Until these British-level fighters meet each other, we'll never truly know whose the best of them (not including AJ or The Hayemaker)

Gary Cornish has disappeared off the face of the Earth since the Joshua fight. Be nice to see him in the ring any time soon. Can't still be recovering from the knock out surely...

Supposed to be working as a wild haggis catcher up the highlands so I've heard.

Aj?

how does Hughie do today against Christian Hammer and Dereck Chisora?
Does he simply follow Tysons routes to victory?

wesshaw1985 wrote:how does Hughie do today against Christian Hammer and Dereck Chisora?
Does he simply follow Tysons routes to victory?

Good question. These are the kind of fights I'd like to see him go after if he's ambitious enough. If he's as good as his team think he'll win both fights with ease but jury's still out for me.

Stuarty30 wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:how does Hughie do today against Christian Hammer and Dereck Chisora?
Does he simply follow Tysons routes to victory?

Good question. These are the kind of fights I'd like to see him go after if he's ambitious enough. If he's as good as his team think he'll win both fights with ease but jury's still out for me.

agreed. They should be chasing these 2. Both are still relevant in Europe and would push Hughie on this year...

wesshaw1985 wrote:agreed. They should be chasing these 2. Both are still relevant in Europe and would push Hughie on this year...

And both might beat him.

Horse wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:agreed. They should be chasing these 2. Both are still relevant in Europe and would push Hughie on this year...

And both might beat him.

that makes them relevant opponents for a Hughie, better than knock overs...

wesshaw1985 wrote:

Horse wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:agreed. They should be chasing these 2. Both are still relevant in Europe and would push Hughie on this year...

And both might beat him.

that makes them relevant opponents for a Hughie, better than knock overs...

Definitely. He'd learn more in a ten or twelve rounder with any of these two than he would fighting five Michael Sprott type opponents. Especially DelBoy if he can be arsed that is!

Chisora has Pulev lined up for the EBU but Hammer would be an ideal opponent.