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Re: Luis Ortiz is the best heavyweight in the world
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 17:59
by Tanzio
Nightgaunt wrote:Yeah, I don't know man, Shannon Briggs defeating 6 tomato cans in 2014 really didn't mean much besides that he wasn't taking it slowly.
I give Ortiz props though for the first defense against Jennings, a defense within 2 months of winning a title - even if it's just the WBA interim - has not been seen in a long long time.

good point.
Re: Luis Ortiz is the best heavyweight in the world
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 03:24
by asdfjkl
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Ortiz is trying to fight top contenders, but the top contenders continually avoid him. Initially Jennings was planning to avoid him as well, but later boxed him anyway. I would have loved to see that fight going on a little longer, even though Jennings got smashed all over the ring, he wasn't even that bad looking on the scorecards and I'm not sure how good Ortiz is in the later rounds. I think Ortiz should fight Haye, but I expect Haye to be too much of a coward to fight Ortiz.
Are there any fighters that aren't cowards?
briggs, Klitschko, Monsour, Wach, Fury, Povetkin, name them.
Re: Luis Ortiz is the best heavyweight in the world
Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 00:12
by Wales
jamesmcdonnell wrote:lefty wrote:Wales wrote:
Unbelievably bad. Not sure if you remember James but there was a certain british heavyweight who was posting using same name on here as he was a well known bodybuilding site.
On the bodybuilding site he was posting what steroids and accompanying drugs he was taking per cycle - doing it heavy can cost hundreads of pounds and his cycles were. He was also boxing at the time.
I posted this in a thread about said fighter and included links to the other message board. I received 2 PMs - one from a poster saying "take that down if i were you, hes sort of person that'll get people to find you and fill you in if anything comes of your post" the second was from an admin saying "we've removed your post as its slanderous, final warning or youre banned"
About 2 years later he was banned for steroid use! During them two years he couldve hurt someone. Badly.
Thats my little story, further evidence its rife, well, how about (off top of my head) the following being caught...
Vitali Klit
Roy Jones Jnr
James Toney
Evander Holyfield
Mosley
Vargas
Mayorga
Botha
Hardly a list of small time under radar trailer park fighters
Initials LO by any chance?
If so, has to be said the substances didn't really improve him much - but then that's because he wasn't that good.
10-4 before the ban
1-17 after returning
Re: Luis Ortiz is the best heavyweight in the world
Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 01:26
by Evander
Jury is out.
Re: Luis Ortiz is the best heavyweight in the world
Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 04:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Ortiz is trying to fight top contenders, but the top contenders continually avoid him. Initially Jennings was planning to avoid him as well, but later boxed him anyway. I would have loved to see that fight going on a little longer, even though Jennings got smashed all over the ring, he wasn't even that bad looking on the scorecards and I'm not sure how good Ortiz is in the later rounds. I think Ortiz should fight Haye, but I expect Haye to be too much of a coward to fight Ortiz.
Are there any fighters that aren't cowards?
briggs, Klitschko, Monsour, Wach, Fury, Povetkin, name them.
yeah, Briggs is the man.
Re: Luis Ortiz is the best heavyweight in the world
Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 05:18
by asdfjkl
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Are there any fighters that aren't cowards?
briggs, Klitschko, Monsour, Wach, Fury, Povetkin, name them.
yeah, Briggs is the man.
He isn't a coward and that's what you asked for.
Re: Luis Ortiz is the best heavyweight in the world
Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 13:36
by SaadOffTheDeck