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Stuarty30 wrote:So you would defend the Scott fight if they chose him?

Probably, that depends on what other people would be saying.

Horse wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:So you would defend the Scott fight if they chose him?

Probably, that depends on what other people would be saying.

Scott is just as bad a fight as this so you're talking out your rusty bullet hole. I'm not defending this fight all I said was that AJ is in a position that he can't win unless he fights a Fury or a Haye and he's not ready for them yet IMO. He might have a world strap but he's a 16 fight novice who's yet to go beyond 7 rounds at the end of the day. You're trying to create an arguement and create static where there is none.

Sounds like this opponent could be even worse than Martin?

Stuarty30 wrote:Scott is just as bad a fight as this so you're talking out your rusty bullet hole.

No, he is much better than this clam.

Stuarty30 wrote:I'm not defending this fight all I said was that AJ is in a position that he can't win unless he fights a Fury or a Haye and he's not ready for them yet IMO.

You are defending it right now.

You need better self-awareness.

Stuarty30 wrote:He might have a world strap but he's a 16 fight novice who's yet to go beyond 7 rounds at the end of the day. You're trying to create an arguement and create static where there is none.

He's a world champion. He should be fighting opponents that are at least domestic level.

This opponent is abysmal.

Did you watch the Mansour fight?

Horse wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Scott is just as bad a fight as this so you're talking out your rusty bullet hole.

No, he is much better than this clam.

Stuarty30 wrote:I'm not defending this fight all I said was that AJ is in a position that he can't win unless he fights a Fury or a Haye and he's not ready for them yet IMO.

You are defending it right now.

You need better self-awareness.

Stuarty30 wrote:He might have a world strap but he's a 16 fight novice who's yet to go beyond 7 rounds at the end of the day. You're trying to create an arguement and create static where there is none.

He's a world champion. He should be fighting opponents that are at least domestic level.

This opponent is abysmal.

Did you watch the Mansour fight?

Yes I seen it on YouTube. He won't last more than a couple of rounds, same as Scott. both are as bad as each other in terms of opponents. I am plenty self aware.

He'll be mandated to fight a live, living breathing danger man soon by the IBF. That's why the IBF title is more 'dangerous' than the British.

Might I suggest you take a leaf out of AJs book and #StayHumble cuz

Horse wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Scott is just as bad a fight as this so you're talking out your rusty bullet hole.

No, he is much better than this clam.

Stuarty30 wrote:I'm not defending this fight all I said was that AJ is in a position that he can't win unless he fights a Fury or a Haye and he's not ready for them yet IMO.

You are defending it right now.

You need better self-awareness.

Stuarty30 wrote:He might have a world strap but he's a 16 fight novice who's yet to go beyond 7 rounds at the end of the day. You're trying to create an arguement and create static where there is none.

He's a world champion. He should be fighting opponents that are at least domestic level.

This opponent is abysmal.

Did you watch the Mansour fight?

He's not a world champ, he has a meaningless belt, he knows that as well as everybody else, and pretty much said so immediately after the Martin fight.

The world champ is Fury, everyone and his uncle knows that.

Stuarty30 wrote:Yes I seen it on YouTube. He won't last more than a couple of rounds, same as Scott. both are as bad as each other in terms of opponents. I am plenty self aware.

No, Scott is much better.

Scott has a much better record and is far more proven. They are not as bad as each other at all.

Stuarty30 wrote:He'll be mandated to fight a live, living breathing danger man soon by the IBF. That's why the IBF title is more 'dangerous' than the British.

Might I suggest you take a leaf out of AJs book and #StayHumble cuz

The IBF is having a tournament to decide the next mandatory challenger. He might have a year before he has to fight the winner of that.

Hearn and Joshua may well find a way of squirming out of that as well.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's not a world champ, he has a meaningless belt, he knows that as well as everybody else, and pretty much said so immediately after the Martin fight.

The world champ is Fury, everyone and his uncle knows that.

He should still be fighting opponents that aren't awful.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's not a world champ, he has a meaningless belt, he knows that as well as everybody else, and pretty much said so immediately after the Martin fight.

The world champ is Fury, everyone and his uncle knows that.

He should still be fighting opponents that aren't awful.

There's not really a lot to choose from, they are all pretty poor. Let's be honest.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:There's not really a lot to choose from, they are all pretty poor. Let's be honest.

Well, I disagree, but I have much less contempt for the heavyweight division than many on here do.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's not a world champ, he has a meaningless belt, he knows that as well as everybody else, and pretty much said so immediately after the Martin fight.

The world champ is Fury, everyone and his uncle knows that.

He should still be fighting opponents that aren't awful.

There's not really a lot to choose from, they are all pretty poor. Let's be honest.

Horse can't be honest. He doesn't watch a fight, he watches two walking statistics throw numbers and percentages at each other rather than punches.

Riddick Blowe wrote:Horse can't be honest. He doesn't watch a fight, he watches two walking statistics throw numbers and percentages at each other rather than punches.

And you're staring at Joshua's rippling muscles and enjoying yourself very much indeed.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:There's not really a lot to choose from, they are all pretty poor. Let's be honest.

Well, I disagree, but I have much less contempt for the heavyweight division than many on here do.

You could've fooled me

Horse wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:Horse can't be honest. He doesn't watch a fight, he watches two walking statistics throw numbers and percentages at each other rather than punches.

And you're staring at Joshua's rippling muscles and enjoying yourself very much indeed.

You don't even need a television. You're probably just content to stare at records on Boxrec and imagine what the fights would be like based on who has fought who.

Horse wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:Horse can't be honest. He doesn't watch a fight, he watches two walking statistics throw numbers and percentages at each other rather than punches.

And you're staring at Joshua's rippling muscles and enjoying yourself very much indeed.

Horse you seriously need to get laid or join a Zumba class. You are worrying me.

Stuarty30 wrote:You could've fooled me

Not exactly a difficult task.

Stuarty30 wrote:
Horse you seriously need to get laid

You need to do a better job of protecting the nation's (wo)men

Riddick Blowe wrote:You don't even need a television. You're probably just content to stare at records on Boxrec and imagine what the fights would be like based on who has fought who.

And you treat an easy win against a bum like it is an easy win against a world class opponent.

There are levels and records are good at telling us who is at what level.

Only a fool would ignore records and solely rely on the 'eye test'.

Horse wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:You don't even need a television. You're probably just content to stare at records on Boxrec and imagine what the fights would be like based on who has fought who.

And you treat an easy win against a bum like it is an easy win against a world class opponent.

There are levels and records are good at telling us who is at what level.

Only a fool would ignore records and solely rely on the 'eye test'.

I don't solely rely on the 'eye test' and nowhere is there evidence that I do.

You would probably pick a prime 160lb Jermain Taylor over GGG.

Riddick Blowe wrote:I don't solely rely on the 'eye test' and nowhere is there evidence that I do.

You would probably pick a prime 160lb Jermain Taylor over GGG.

The way that you talk about Joshua suggests that you rely on the 'eye test' far more than a person should.

You have dismissed the importance of Joshua not having fought anyone decent yet several times and mock the idea that when he steps up he might find things a bit more difficult.

Records matter.

Horse wrote: Records matter.

Of course they do. But in this weak as shite division, there is less worth in them than you think. Trust me. (Gets back on merry-go-round)

Riddick Blowe wrote:Of course they do. But in this weak as shite division, there is less worth in them than you think. Trust me.

I do not trust you.

If the division was as bad as you suggest, then Joshua would have cut a swathe through the upper echelons by now.

Yet he hasn't even fought anyone that is clearly a top 30 ranked heavyweight.

Joshua can hit very hard and so can look impressive at the lower levels. Things tend to change when these punchers step up though.

Horse wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:You could've fooled me

Not exactly a difficult task.

You lads better calm doon or fast Eddie will have you on the undercard. What does it say about our game when a relative novice can not only win but defend a world title

jank fight, just like all joshuas fights.

A step down from Martin IMO.