WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

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Fury vs. Joshua Winner?

Tyson Fury
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Anthony Joshua
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Total votes: 277

Oiky
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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

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Rob3_142 wrote:
Oiky wrote:i generally think Tyson fury would box Joshuas head off

i really don't think Joshua has shown anything even remotely close that would suggest he could best Tyson

Aj is never going to steam roll Tyson out of there he won't be there sticking his chin out to dry I think he would be all over Joshua like a cheap suit, pot shotting him all night all the way to a UD
Then again, Fury didn't show anything that suggested he would beat Klitschko, but he did in pretty comfortable fashion.

So far Joshua has made some B level fighters look very ordinary. I know people are not overly impressed by that, but it's credible in my opinion. Firstly he knocks Whyte in 7, a guy who is now gatekeeper level, and may well manufacture his own world title shot in the next 12 months. Secondly he makes absolute mincemeat of Molina in 2, who took Wilder 9, whom he gave a genuine wobble. And then he breaks down a very durable Breazeale in 7, who may be a lot more solid than we gave him credit for. He just beat powerful prospect Ugonoh in 5 bludgeoning rounds, and could go on to make another world title shot happen soon (Not in chronological order).

I'm not saying these wins are earth shattering. It's the manner of the victories. The fact he has taken one shot genuine shot in 18 fights. That he's won every round, barring one, in 18 fights. The fact he's made B level fighters look like D level fighters. We will go on to learn a lot more in Joshua's next few fights, but from what he has shown so far, I am extremely encouraged.
all fair points there
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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

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Oiky wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Oiky wrote:i generally think Tyson fury would box Joshuas head off

i really don't think Joshua has shown anything even remotely close that would suggest he could best Tyson

Aj is never going to steam roll Tyson out of there he won't be there sticking his chin out to dry I think he would be all over Joshua like a cheap suit, pot shotting him all night all the way to a UD
Then again, Fury didn't show anything that suggested he would beat Klitschko, but he did in pretty comfortable fashion.

So far Joshua has made some B level fighters look very ordinary. I know people are not overly impressed by that, but it's credible in my opinion. Firstly he knocks Whyte in 7, a guy who is now gatekeeper level, and may well manufacture his own world title shot in the next 12 months. Secondly he makes absolute mincemeat of Molina in 2, who took Wilder 9, whom he gave a genuine wobble. And then he breaks down a very durable Breazeale in 7, who may be a lot more solid than we gave him credit for. He just beat powerful prospect Ugonoh in 5 bludgeoning rounds, and could go on to make another world title shot happen soon (Not in chronological order).

I'm not saying these wins are earth shattering. It's the manner of the victories. The fact he has taken one genuine shot in 18 fights. That he's won every round, barring one, in 18 fights. The fact he's made B level fighters look like D level fighters. We will go on to learn a lot more in Joshua's next few fights, but from what he has shown so far, I am extremely encouraged.
all fair points there
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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

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Joshua Feels Tyson Fury Clash Would Be Bigger Than Klitschko - http://www.BS.com/joshua-feels ... ko--115833
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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

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I originally voted for Fury to win, but what sort of fighter will he be if he ever does come back? Easy to see him coming back and being much less than he was 18 months ago, whereas Joshua seems to be moving forward albeit against fringe contenders.
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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

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Fury has to get in shape and fight AJ now.
This fight has to happen...
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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Post by jimglen »

lets be honest TF is a second rate fighter who was moved and placed into position because he was a marketable sideshow and he was lucky he fought the klit he did, almost any other klit night would have beat him.

also at this point in his career with his life style and weight I don't think he can ever come back. Flash in the Pan and a lucky one at that.

AJ and many other World beaters beat him convincingly.
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wesshaw1985 wrote:Fury has to get in shape and fight AJ now.
This fight has to happen...
Id be happy for Fury to fight Parker for a warm up. Get himself proper ready.
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wesshaw1985 wrote:Joshua Feels Tyson Fury Clash Would Be Bigger Than Klitschko - http://www.BS.com/joshua-feels ... ko--115833
It'd be huge in this country.

Heavyweights carry a special cache anyway but the champ and the lineal champ?
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I still think Fury, if he get back to what he was would win.
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The run up to the fight will be more interesting than the main event.
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Tyson Fury from the night he beat Wlad wins. Not just on skill but he would get into his head.

One tweet from him riled Joshua and the mask slipped.

However the Tyson Fury from November 28th 2015 isn't coming back and people have to accept it.

If you tally all the doping charges against him there is no way he won't get some ban and it would be until the end of next year at the earliest he comes back. That is a lot of time for him to get in even worse shape and go off the rails again.

I'm gutted I don't think it will happen because it would have been the biggest British fight of all time.

It is Joshua's time now.
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Tough call. Fury wouldn't be able to withstand AJ's shots and i'm not sure he could get away with the same dreadful tactics. I think AJ will find his Holyfield soon, not sure it's fury though.
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Ricky_ wrote:Tough call. Fury wouldn't be able to withstand AJ's shots and i'm not sure he could get away with the same dreadful tactics. I think AJ will find his Holyfield soon, not sure it's fury though.
Realistically who out there at moment would that be though ?
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Apologies if this was posted previously, but I enjoyed this message from Fury to Joshua earlier today. Kind of sums up why Fury is so liked/loathed. (for the record, I've always liked him, despite criticising him often)

http://www.unilad.co.uk/sport/tyson-fur ... hko-fight/
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Boxerbeetle wrote:Apologies if this was posted previously, but I enjoyed this message from Fury to Joshua earlier today. Kind of sums up why Fury is so liked/loathed. (for the record, I've always liked him, despite criticising him often)

http://www.unilad.co.uk/sport/tyson-fur ... hko-fight/
Aw I feel affectionate towards the big lunk

If he got back in shape and got the AJ fight, I think I would be more invested in him winning than any fight I can remember in fucken years. Either Calzaghe-Lacy or go back to Hamed-Kelley. I saw his first six fights live. I patted him on the shoulder and said 'good fight big man'. He's like my great big 6'9 boxing 'I remember you as a babe, so cute you were' step-son or something.

Come on Tyson. Get in shape. Get it together
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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Post by CiganoBoxer »

After last night big Tyson couldn't of seen better motivation to get back in shape ,i had AJ down by 2 rounds busting a gut when he stopped Wlad , fury weather you like how he fights or not made it look much easier and against bigger odds stacked against him to .
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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

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CiganoBoxer wrote:After last night big Tyson couldn't of seen better motivation to get back in shape ,i had AJ down by 2 rounds busting a gut when he stopped Wlad , fury weather you like how he fights or not made it look much easier and against bigger odds stacked against him to .
Different sort of fight though. Styles make them; I had Floyd winning a shutout against Canelo and scraping barely past Maidana in a fight that really could have been a draw. I still think prime Canelo absolutely destroys prime Maidana.

Wlad was either going to have to end up throwing shots at Joshua or just caving in. Fury was never going to try and get rid of Wlad so it ends up a totally different fight. But the big questions regarding Joshua, (chin, ability to recover when hurt, engine) now have far more positives about them. The issue for Joshua last night was Wlad's power and he took it; Fury may be many things but he's absolutely nowhere near as powerful as Wlad.
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CiganoBoxer wrote:After last night big Tyson couldn't of seen better motivation to get back in shape ,i had AJ down by 2 rounds busting a gut when he stopped Wlad , fury weather you like how he fights or not made it look much easier and against bigger odds stacked against him to .
Fury did not fight the version of Wlad that AJ just did. Not even close. But most importantly, AJ would not be fighting the version of Fury that Wlad did.

AJ yells "timber!" In the first half, and Fury does not get up.
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Tanzio wrote:
CiganoBoxer wrote:After last night big Tyson couldn't of seen better motivation to get back in shape ,i had AJ down by 2 rounds busting a gut when he stopped Wlad , fury weather you like how he fights or not made it look much easier and against bigger odds stacked against him to .
Fury did not fight the version of Wlad that AJ just did. Not even close. But most importantly, AJ would not be fighting the version of Fury that Wlad did.

AJ yells "timber!" In the first half, and Fury does not get up.
Wlad was not the same fighter against Fury as he was against Joshua because Fury didn't let him be that fighter. Against Fury he didn't let his hands go because he was mindful of what was coming back exactly the same as last night he rarely threw the right hand even when it looked like Joshua was there for the taking. The main difference from wlad last night and the wlad that fought Fury was wlads footwork, and the reason for that was last night Klitschko was the better boxer and against Fury he wasn't.
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smiling assassin wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
CiganoBoxer wrote:After last night big Tyson couldn't of seen better motivation to get back in shape ,i had AJ down by 2 rounds busting a gut when he stopped Wlad , fury weather you like how he fights or not made it look much easier and against bigger odds stacked against him to .
Fury did not fight the version of Wlad that AJ just did. Not even close. But most importantly, AJ would not be fighting the version of Fury that Wlad did.

AJ yells "timber!" In the first half, and Fury does not get up.
Wlad was not the same fighter against Fury as he was against Joshua because Fury didn't let him be that fighter. Against Fury he didn't let his hands go because he was mindful of what was coming back exactly the same as last night he rarely threw the right hand even when it looked like Joshua was there for the taking. The main difference from wlad last night and the wlad that fought Fury was wlads footwork, and the reason for that was last night Klitschko was the better boxer and against Fury he wasn't.
We will see, hopefully, if Fury can pull his head out of that sand dune sized mound of blow. Wlad himself claimed that he was better prepared for this fight.

I had always liked Fury but he has made a joke of himself. I hope that he comes back and makes me eat my words but if he does I see AJ ending him.
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Tanzio wrote:
smiling assassin wrote:
Tanzio wrote: Fury did not fight the version of Wlad that AJ just did. Not even close. But most importantly, AJ would not be fighting the version of Fury that Wlad did.

AJ yells "timber!" In the first half, and Fury does not get up.
Wlad was not the same fighter against Fury as he was against Joshua because Fury didn't let him be that fighter. Against Fury he didn't let his hands go because he was mindful of what was coming back exactly the same as last night he rarely threw the right hand even when it looked like Joshua was there for the taking. The main difference from wlad last night and the wlad that fought Fury was wlads footwork, and the reason for that was last night Klitschko was the better boxer and against Fury he wasn't.
We will see, hopefully, if Fury can pull his head out of that sand dune sized mound of blow. Wlad himself claimed that he was better prepared for this fight.

I had always liked Fury but he has made a joke of himself. I hope that he comes back and makes me eat my words but if he does I see AJ ending him.
Unfortunately your right there mate he has. If he does come back though and give it a proper go I think he is the best heavyweight in the world bar none
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Tyson Fury is getting fatter & less relevant as each day passes & because he's been off for so long, it makes it hard to call.

If the fight was made today, I'd firmly back Joshua, simply because I don't know where Fury is at the moment.

If Fury can get back to exactly where he was in November 2015, I might just lean towards him, but not with full confidence.
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We all have our opinions. Fury is a clever Heavyweight, quick hands, he has that good movement and really confused Vlad. Yet Fury gets all this hate still for not going to fight but then neither did Vlad. Fury outboxed him. Fury will do the same to AJ. I don't recall too many people calling Ali's win over Foreman a fluke. They said the rope a dope was genius. Because it was Ali. Fury has his detractors as now does AJ, it makes an interesting fight but I see Fury winning, just not sure he is the best Heavy in the division.
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hagler81 wrote:We all have our opinions. Fury is a clever Heavyweight, quick hands, he has that good movement and really confused Vlad. Yet Fury gets all this hate still for not going to fight but then neither did Vlad. Fury outboxed him. Fury will do the same to AJ. I don't recall too many people calling Ali's win over Foreman a fluke. They said the rope a dope was genius. Because it was Ali. Fury has his detractors as now does AJ, it makes an interesting fight but I see Fury winning, just not sure he is the best Heavy in the division.
Very sensible post
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rd350lc wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Tough call. Fury wouldn't be able to withstand AJ's shots and i'm not sure he could get away with the same dreadful tactics. I think AJ will find his Holyfield soon, not sure it's fury though.
Realistically who out there at moment would that be though ?
Usyk maybe in 2-3 years time?
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