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ikorolev wrote:

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Honestly I hope the fight goes on as planned. Like others have said, make it a non title fight....give Povetkin a big fine, even suspend him, but wait until after. I just want to see it.

Team Wilder already sitting in a plane back home to the US. Not happening.

A source ?

https://twitter.com/wbcmoro/status/731866712849571840

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
Team Wilder already sitting in a plane back home to the US. Not happening.

A source ?

https://twitter.com/wbcmoro/status/731866712849571840

still haven't heard from VADA or WBC how much was in his system, only what his promoter claimed.
other sources said he had much more than promoter claimed. even if wilder agreed to a non-title
fight with part of povetkin's purse handed over, and the russian governing body agreed to license it,
and povetkin agreed to continue, and ryabinsky agreed to pay everyone (showtime still hadn't agreed
to pay for it so ryabinksy was already going to lose money guaranteed), and the ticketholders didn't
demand their money back, after all that you still won't have a fight if the WBC suspends povetkin.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-vs-po ... ed--104609

Now Wilder can go back to fighting tomato cans with his own home town in house refs and judges and fixers.

The company that does the drug testing, VADA, is based in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA, the most corrupt city in the world.

I've been critical of Wilder but Povetkin is a POS. We would have finally gotten a good assessment of Wilder's abilities and Povetkin ruined it for everyone. I feel for Wilder that he spent all the time and money preparing for this fight only for it to get postponed because of the cheating Russian pudendum.

This political manipulation of drug testing is going to finish off boxing for good. First they stripped Browne and now they cancelled this big fight at the last minute. They'll probably f around with the Fury-Wlad rematch too.

x2x wrote:The company that does the drug testing, VADA, is based in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA, the most corrupt city in the world.

the tests are conducted at WADA labs, same as olympics, and samples are collected by internationally
accredited organizations. that is some tinfoil hat shit you are typing right there.

This fight SHOULD not happen. They have evidence that this drug had shown up in his system in his latest drug test - which quells the notion that he took it before it was banned on Jan 1. He was clean 3 times in early April. Then pissed hot for it after that. It's obvious he used it after it was banned. If the fight goes on its a joke. But boxing IS a joke so it probably happens.

The story was on Fightnews and now it is not on Fightnews. Strange. Hopefully there will be some sanity prevailing and the fight will be un-postponed, but I don't think so, not in the wonderful world of boxing.

I've been looking forward to it for a long time... it looks like its finally happening, and one week prior to the fight, this happens.

Just want to know, postponed, until when? I can't wait another half year, ugh.

x2x wrote:They'll probably f around with the Fury-Wlad rematch too.

i would be shocked if fury tested postive for anything but pizza and cheeseburgers

sucracristo wrote:

x2x wrote:The company that does the drug testing, VADA, is based in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA, the most corrupt city in the world.

the tests are conducted at WADA labs, same as olympics, and samples are collected by internationally
accredited organizations. that is some tinfoil hat poo you are typing right there.

At VADA Labs IN LAS VEGAS, NV, USA, the most corrupt city in the world, a city created by the Mafia and existing off the profits raked in from the suckers gambling - or "gaming" in Newspeak.

sucracristo wrote:

x2x wrote:They'll probably f around with the Fury-Wlad rematch too.

i would be shocked if fury tested postive for anything but pizza and cheeseburgers

Ha ha - but the establishment hates him so they will probably "find" something in that Las Vegas lab.

I wonder if Showtime keeps this time slot for Lebedev's fight or pulls the broadcast.

diddy wrote:I wonder if Showtime keeps this time slot for Lebedev's fight or pulls the broadcast.

when did showtime buy the wilder-povetkin fight? there was no deal just before the
drug test results came out.

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Gratz, but please notice that this stuff doesn't make you stronger, it just makes you last longer, and the amount found is absolutely minimum, probably even something that's still left from when it was allowed. I still feel sad for him even looking for unfair advantages, legal or illegal.

It doesn't really matter, its an advantage, be it more power, stamina, or whatever. I heard it increases O² flow in the muscles, this means, you last longer AND you gain more muscles, getting stronger. Its no wonder Povetkin looks like a bull with 37, when he's been a chubby guy in his "prime". I believe every boxer uses legal 'unfair' advantages.

asdfjkl wrote:The female hockey team? Never knew that, usually the Dutch teams win that sport don't they?
Now I'm thinking about it, has there ever been caught any Dutch person in the past 5 Olympics? They performed remarkebly well, for such a small country and barely any of the immigrants fighting for the Dutch.

Even though i like the idea of the Olympics & am one of the few guys that watch it aswell... i only know of Dafne Schippers, a dutch runner, world champ of 2015. Busted for PEDs. About hockey, russians & dutch weren't even top. #1 been Canada, #2 the USA, #3 Switzerland... Russia was 5th & the Dutch were 19th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hoc ... r_Olympics

I guess you're wrong, the Dutch men won silver and the Dutch womans won gold in hockey...

Daphne Schippers using PEDs? I've never heard of that, what makes you believe that? To me you sound like a drunk men talking actually.

sucracristo wrote:

diddy wrote:I wonder if Showtime keeps this time slot for Lebedev's fight or pulls the broadcast.

when did showtime buy the wilder-povetkin fight? there was no deal just before the
drug test results came out.

It's listed on Showtime as a 4pm EST start.

I think that big bad drug which was perfectly legal up until a few months ago is related to Creatine which is sold over the counter in health food stores in the USA. Only this drug is sold in Russia and eastern Europe...and then the drug testing takes place in Las Vegas.

This politicized bs drug testing is getting totally out of control.

x2x wrote:I think that big bad drug which was perfectly legal up until a few months ago is related to Creatine which is sold over the counter in health food stores in the USA. Only this drug is sold in Russia and eastern Europe...and then the drug testing takes place in Las Vegas.

This politicized bs drug testing is getting totally out of control.

It was banned everywhere Jan 1. He passed 3 tests early April. Then failed for it late April. He obviously took it after it was banned. Stop making excuses and stop with the conspiracy crap. He took a banned substance. End of.

Very very disappointing. I know about as much about PEDs as I do about Hinduism, which is nothing, so I won't comment on the specifics other than I'm really annoyed because I was looking forward to this scrap.

x2x wrote:

sucracristo wrote:

x2x wrote:They'll probably f around with the Fury-Wlad rematch too.

i would be shocked if fury tested postive for anything but pizza and cheeseburgers

Ha ha - but the establishment hates him so they will probably "find" something in that Las Vegas lab.

there is no las vegas lab. take off the tinfoil hat, alex jones. i'm pretty sure VADA's lab is the olympic testing
center at UCLA. yes, that would be the same lab WADA/USADA uses for the olympics

diddy wrote:

x2x wrote:I think that big bad drug which was perfectly legal up until a few months ago is related to Creatine which is sold over the counter in health food stores in the USA. Only this drug is sold in Russia and eastern Europe...and then the drug testing takes place in Las Vegas.

This politicized bs drug testing is getting totally out of control.

It was banned everywhere Jan 1. He passed 3 tests early April. Then failed for it late April. He obviously took it after it was banned. Stop making excuses and stop with the conspiracy crap. He took a banned substance. End of.

All I read was that it was a minuscule amount far below the allowable minimum, and don't try that "conspiracy theory" schtick on me...nah nothing to see here folks, move along, it's just a conspiracy theory, the drug lab in Las Vegas said they found a drug, move along...

The traces of that drug are only in your system for a short time. He had taken that within 2 weeks max. His power surge after wlad makes more sense now. Wilder should move on, he's getting suspended. As for the drug being legal before and pretending it's not a ped, if it wasn't they wouldn't still be using it.

sucracristo wrote: there is no las vegas lab. take off the tinfoil hat, alex jones. i'm pretty sure VADA's lab is the olympic testing
center at UCLA. yes, that would be the same lab WADA/USADA uses for the olympics

"VADA...las vegas based company"

http://www.BS.com/wilder-vs-po ... ed--104609

ryabinsky was trying to shop around for his own euro testing lab over 2 months ago, saying
WADA/VADA testing wasn't needed. maybe the guy new something back then. again, rafael
says two sources told him that the levels pov tested for were far above what ryabinsky is
claiming and that it was NOT traces from before the substance was banned. the tinfoil hat
crap is really coming hard and strong here. yup, it's all wilder's fault...

x2x wrote:

sucracristo wrote: there is no las vegas lab. take off the tinfoil hat, alex jones. i'm pretty sure VADA's lab is the olympic testing
center at UCLA. yes, that would be the same lab WADA/USADA uses for the olympics

"VADA...las vegas based company"

http://www.BS.com/wilder-vs-po ... ed--104609

i never argued where they were headquartered. relax. take a breath. whatever you do, don't kick your cat.
the cat did nothing wrong. there is only one WADA accredited lab in the united states as far as i know,
and that is the UCLA lab that does the olympic testing. VADA uses a WADA accedited lab. you can actually
get that information from VADA directly instead of linking me to a boxing scene article that says nothing
about where the lab is. there is no las vegas lab. the lab is not in las vegas. las vegas has nothing to do with
the collection or testing of the samples. the samples were tested by the exact same people and instruments
who do the olympic testing at UCLA.